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11-11-2017, 01:57 PM
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I want to go down to a one gun for my hunting.
I want to use my left hand 30-06 Ruger M77 MK11 as a do all one gun . It has a Leupold FX111 6x42 that I am considering sending in to Korth to be retro fitted with a CDS system. My question is what grain bullet do you think would be appropriate based on real life experience not paper specs. I was thinking of 180gr Barns TTSX. I want to be able to hunt bear, deer , elk and moose.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated on either the rifle, scope and bullet choices. I don't know why, but the other option that interests me would be to start over with a .308 in either Tikka or Browning for lower recoil. I do not want to go above 30-06 as I am recoil sensitive.
I will be selling off all my rifles and keeping only a .243,35Rem and the 06 or new .308
Thanks for your feedback.
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11-11-2017, 02:20 PM
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I have done the same but really have only one rifle...Tikka T3x 270 Win. I’m shooting 145gr ELD-X bullets for everything. In your 30-06 the 180 is plenty and if your using the TTSX I think you could go down to a lighter bullet without giving up anything. When I used the 30-06 I used the 180 Parition but I’m very bias towards them...just work perfectly IMO
Great scope choice, I’m using the same (no turrets)....Keep it simple
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11-11-2017, 02:30 PM
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Couple things...
I do not think you need any dial for your scope at all. Your 6x Leupold scope is a perfect all rounder. Spinning turrets is a pain in the arse in a hunting situation, at least in my opinion.
I would also say stay away from 180s for two reasons: you mention not liking recoil, and 165 is the sweet spot for an 06. For bullets I would suggest either 165 accubonds or 165 partitions. If you are set on Barnes, then go with the 150 gr TTSX, as you need the velocity to get optimal expansion with the Barnes.
Forget the 308. There is so little real world difference between the 308 and the 06 that it is not even worth mentioning. Unless you just want a new rifle which is not a bad thing either.
Lastly, if you do decide to get a 308 and someone tells you it is too small for elk or moose, tell them they have no clue of what they are talking about, and that they should continue watching Best of the West reruns.
Good luck.
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11-11-2017, 02:55 PM
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I agree with sns2, the 165 gr partition would be my go to for everything as you outlined. I have pretty much left the 7mm RM and 300 WM sitting in the safe for the last few years, and just use my 7mm-08 with 140 gr partitions for everything. No issues at all. Some days I think I might like a 338 Federal to lob 210 gr partitions as a nice low recoil option for moose and elk, but mostly because I just like options....
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11-11-2017, 03:10 PM
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I agree with the 165 gr Partitions as well...better choice over the 180
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11-11-2017, 03:15 PM
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I agree. 165’s are great in a 30-06.
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11-11-2017, 03:17 PM
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11-11-2017, 03:17 PM
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...just use my 7mm-08 with 140 gr partitions for everything. No issues at all...
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That’s the exact same thing my wife uses in her 7-08...great round
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11-11-2017, 04:05 PM
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so your saying 165's will work on moose and elk? providing good shot placement.
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11-11-2017, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sns2
Couple things...
I do not think you need any dial for your scope at all. Your 6x Leupold scope is a perfect all rounder. Spinning turrets is a pain in the arse in a hunting situation, at least in my opinion.
I would also say stay away from 180s for two reasons: you mention not liking recoil, and 165 is the sweet spot for an 06. For bullets I would suggest either 165 accubonds or 165 partitions. If you are set on Barnes, then go with the 150 gr TTSX, as you need the velocity to get optimal expansion with the Barnes.
Forget the 308. There is so little real world difference between the 308 and the 06 that it is not even worth mentioning. Unless you just want a new rifle which is not a bad thing either.
Lastly, if you do decide to get a 308 and someone tells you it is too small for elk or moose, tell them they have no clue of what they are talking about, and that they should continue watching Best of the West reruns.
Good luck.
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11-11-2017, 04:12 PM
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I am excited about going down to the one gun hunter. I found over the years of adding new rifles and calibers that my proficiency has gone down hill. Instead of being at one with my rifle, I am not great with any. In the old days I only had one and I never had issues as far as cheek weld, shouldering etc... it was all natural each time I shouldered the rifle.
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11-11-2017, 04:34 PM
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so your saying 165's will work on moose and elk? providing good shot placement.
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Absolutely. Not a question or worry. A 100 gr partition out of a .243 will do the job....the 165 from your ought six is good medicine and then some. Being comfortable and confident in your cartridge bullet combination is important, and you can be with that.
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11-11-2017, 04:51 PM
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That’s the exact same thing my wife uses in her 7-08...great round
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X3. I use a 7-08 loaded with 140 grain Partitions for everything too.
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11-11-2017, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sitting Bull
I am excited about going down to the one gun hunter. I found over the years of adding new rifles and calibers that my proficiency has gone down hill. Instead of being at one with my rifle, I am not great with any. In the old days I only had one and I never had issues as far as cheek weld, shouldering etc... it was all natural each time I shouldered the rifle.
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I find the same myself. I should sell all mine to but I won’t. Lol.
I honestly don’t think you could go wrong with a 30-06 and 165 gr pills. When the 30-06 was my one and only gun I took elk,deer,moose and bears with it. I used to shoot 165 gr hornady’s but after discovering Barnes I don’t have a use for anything hornady.
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11-11-2017, 05:28 PM
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165 out of an '06 will do just fine.
I have been a one gun hunter for a few years now.
I am going after my elk this year with a 180 grain Sabre Tip that screams out of the muzzle at about 2350FPS!
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11-11-2017, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
165 out of an '06 will do just fine.
I have been a one gun hunter for a few years now.
I am going after my elk this year with a 180 grain Sabre Tip that screams out of the muzzle at about 2350FPS!
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Another guy that didn't read the manual about how only magnums kill......
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11-11-2017, 06:16 PM
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165's
I shot a good wt buck opening day and a great mule deer last Wed. The wt was 366 ranged yards and a solid heart shot. Dropped on the spot. The mule deer buck was 165 yards almost straight down, buck was coming forward and slightly turned away. Bullet went in between neck and shoulder and came out behind off front shoulder low in rib cage. He too did not take one more step. I shoot only 165gr Nosler partitions, Federal red box. My Tikka loves them. Thay are also a bit too much for a coyote at 90 yards, lol.
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11-11-2017, 06:35 PM
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That's what I did this spring.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=294817
1 hunting and target rifle,,, that was the plan, but my firearm builder invited me to a F Class Shoot that added 1 more to the collection.
It's strictly a target rifle.
But my 30/06 will always be my main support unit since it fits the Game Harvests, iron silhouettes, 1k and 1700m.
If I decide next year to try the PRS, then this unit is a go.
One bullet, powder, primer, and case from Begining to end.
That way my BDC retrical scope ranging stays constant across the board.
Good time ahead my friend.
I'm glad I thinned out my cabinet as it makes it easier to rely on the main unit.
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11-11-2017, 06:47 PM
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I agree. 165’s are great in a 30-06.
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That's what I been using for the past 20 or so years.
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11-11-2017, 06:58 PM
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Great comment guys. I got carried away several years back thinking I needed different rifles for different animals and then there was the "just because I want" to try this one then that one and my skill level began to drop. I understand the desire to have different rifles, as they are all so beautiful in their own way but you see I have an addictive personality in everything I do and I can't seem to stop myself and the cycle begins and never ends. It's a tough difficult state of mind this addiction thing. I have to put a stop to my suffering so I will only keep a shot gun, a .22 a 35Rem lever, a .243 in case I go coyote hunting but that will probably go as well and the 30-06.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!! Boy I feel better getting that off my chest.
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11-11-2017, 07:08 PM
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So what you need to do, is have one rifle for hunting, and collect old S&W and Colt revolvers to satisfy the gun love. Works really good for me!
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11-11-2017, 07:09 PM
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Barnes TTSX go deep.
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so your saying 165's will work on moose and elk? providing good shot placement.
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150 gr TTSX is plenty for elk and moose. They are hard hitting and deep penetration Deer barely slow them down.
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11-11-2017, 07:25 PM
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So what you need to do, is have one rifle for hunting, and collect old S&W and Colt revolvers to satisfy the gun love. Works really good for me!
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NOoooooo ! I just got rid of that desire. I love single action revolvers but have never shot one. I did not want to go through the process of restricted fire arm licence ..
You Sir, are an enabler you just had to put that bug in my head again.
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11-11-2017, 07:30 PM
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NOoooooo ! I just got rid of that desire. I love single action revolvers but have never shot one. I did not want to go through the process of restricted fire arm licence ..
You Sir, are an enabler you just had to put that bug in my head again.
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It's a simple process once you figure it out. So, yes. You know you do.
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11-11-2017, 07:43 PM
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While I have a few deer/moose capable rifles I have went back to my first rifle.
A Mohawk 308 shooting 165 skg
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11-11-2017, 07:48 PM
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My main rifles a 7mm R.E.M. Mag but in my 3006 I shoot 165 partitions love them
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11-11-2017, 07:48 PM
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It's a simple process once you figure it out. So, yes. You know you do.
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Thats a beauty boy!
You know I probably will give in to this one.I'll have money to spend when I sell the others.
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11-11-2017, 07:51 PM
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While I have a few deer/moose capable rifles I have went back to my first rifle.
A Mohawk 308 shooting 165 skg
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This was my first rifle ever bought it off a wildlife biologist working for Bechtel Canada up in the arctic. You have no idea how much I miss that rifle
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11-11-2017, 07:52 PM
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The longest 1 time rifle I used consecutiveky was a Remmy 308 medium heavy barrel.
From winter Bangers to Elk and everything in between less coyotes,,, Ha. Sad story for another day.
Boy,,, did I get that unit dialed in.
I stuck to the 150's since they were flat and fast,,, I had a bullet drop chart taped to the rifle for a few weeks,,, then I was off to the races.
Lots of Texas Windage. LOL.
It is one of those rifles I really miss since it shot good.
Pretty sure my new rifle will be the same.
1700 ish +++ rounds so far.
Its hard doing the 1,,, addition is tough to handle at times,,, shooting sports is starting to consume my days. LOL
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11-11-2017, 07:52 PM
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I'm derailing my own thread now.
What do you recommend I look at as a first revolver?
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