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are we not responsible adults here
what kills me about this forum is that some so called hunters think that if it's 18 inches long and .729 cal (12 gauge) its safer than a 4.25 inches long and .45 cal for self protection while bow hunting  ??? the law says sheeple, we need to be collective not conformitive. common sense should prevail, power to the people. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/image...napoutofit.gif
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Why anti-veggie?
They have vitamins and stuff.
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Originally Posted by argobenny
what kills me about this forum is that some so called hunters think that if it's 18 inches long and .729 cal (12 gauge) its safer than a 4.25 inches long and .45 cal for self protection while bow hunting ??? the law says sheeple, we need to be collective not conformitive. common sense should prevail, power to the people. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/image...napoutofit.gif |
so your saying a 12 gauge shotgun isnt as safe as a self defense as a .45 pistol?
id take a 12 gauge
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05-21-2013, 12:29 AM
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so your saying a 12 gauge shotgun isnt as safe as a self defense as a .45 pistol?
id take a 12 gauge
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What are we defending against?
Bars? Zombies? Hippies? Terererists?
I've only been attacked by a bar a few times but was able to wrasslem good. I'm nun to worries aboot hippies ( just kick them) and tererereists, but if the zombies come alive I want that rifle Arnie has in T1 ( you know the one he flips around to reload while jumping the bridge with his hog) and a glock.
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05-21-2013, 12:42 AM
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What are we defending against?
Bars? Zombies? Hippies? Terererists?
I've only been attacked by a bar a few times but was able to wrasslem good. I'm nun to worries aboot hippies ( just kick them) and tererereists, but if the zombies come alive I want that rifle Arnie has in T1 ( you know the one he flips around to reload while jumping the bridge with his hog) and a glock.
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Oh lordy!!!
More foolishness again.
What in God's name is your point??? other than more pseudo intellectual meaningless quips.
The OP is not really joking when it comes to wilderness self defense.
I'll take the shotgun that is loaded shot,slug in repeating order.
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What are we defending against?
Bars? Zombies? Hippies? Terererists?
I've only been attacked by a bar a few times but was able to wrasslem good. I'm nun to worries aboot hippies ( just kick them) and tererereists, but if the zombies come alive I want that rifle Arnie has in T1 ( you know the one he flips around to reload while jumping the bridge with his hog) and a glock.
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This?
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05-21-2013, 01:11 AM
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This?
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Sweet... can I have one for my birthday or is it another thing only available in the US?
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05-21-2013, 01:13 AM
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Sweet... can I have one for my birthday or is it another thing only available in the US?
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click on the shotgun picture 
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Cool toy... might be fun.
Not a bad price either.
I'll have to watch for some reviews.
Hopefully they all won't read like adverts....
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what kills me about this forum is that some so called hunters think that if it's 18 inches long and .729 cal (12 gauge) its safer than a 4.25 inches long and .45 cal for self protection while bow hunting ??? the law says sheeple, we need to be collective not conformitive. common sense should prevail, power to the people. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/image...napoutofit.gif |
I would use bear spray instead of a 45 unless i was protecting myself against people with guns.but then i would prefer a shotgun i think. But by that time i think i would be more likely to need it walking down the street than hunting
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. . . I want that rifle Arnie has in T1 ( you know the one he flips around to reload while jumping the bridge with his hog) . . .
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Actually, it's a shotgun (chopped down 12ga Winchester 1887 clone ). But yes, it looks like a great tool for many applications. 
I'm not so sure I'd want to shoot it one-handed though ... 
TF
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Available at Barton's in Grande Prairie, seen one and handled it last week while I was there, very cool store and very friendly staff.....
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Personally I would just take a fat guy hunting with me. As long as I can outrun him I will never get attacked! I suggest everyone use this method! Comment is all in good fun of course, I know large men have feelings too. lol
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What are we defending against?
Bars? Zombies? Hippies? Terererists?
I've only been attacked by a bar a few times but was able to wrasslem good. I'm nun to worries aboot hippies ( just kick them) and tererereists, but if the zombies come alive I want that rifle Arnie has in T1 ( you know the one he flips around to reload while jumping the bridge with his hog) and a glock.
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It aint-yer jerb or the gubmints jerb to be sayin woos an wich guns I usin' to be shootin' at bars!
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what kills me about this forum is that some so called hunters think that if it's 18 inches long and .729 cal (12 gauge) its safer than a 4.25 inches long and .45 cal for self protection while bow hunting ??? the law says sheeple, we need to be collective not conformitive. common sense should prevail, power to the people. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/image...napoutofit.gif |
You're right! A smaller, weaker calibre is always better for bear defence! Now where is that smilie you used? Oh yeah....
Seriously friend, bear spray.
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05-21-2013, 05:27 PM
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You're right! A smaller, weaker calibre is always better for bear defence! Now where is that smilie you used? Oh yeah....
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I don't want to jump Into this argument/discussion based on my lack of experience, however, if you haven't been reading other threads, the 45acp is what saved this mans life.
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05-21-2013, 05:41 PM
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I don't want to jump Into this argument/discussion based on my lack of experience, however, if you haven't been reading other threads, the 45acp is what saved this mans life.
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And had he been using a more powerful cartridge, the attack might have ended sooner, with the result being that he might have suffered much less of a mauling. If it's worth carrying a handgun for protection against bears, is it not worth carrying one that is more suitable for such an application?
I am all for being allowed to legally carry a handgun for protection, but I would be carrying at least a 44magnum. As well, I would not be illegally carrying a handgun for protection against bears, as was the situation in this case.
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I don't want to jump Into this argument/discussion based on my lack of experience, however, if you haven't been reading other threads, the 45acp is what saved this mans life.
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Sorry i failed to see the halo over his post. Actually i still cant see it i think i will stick to bear spray i know its effective and legal to carry
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Sorry i failed to see the halo over his post. Actually i still cant see it i think i will stick to bear spray i know its effective and legal to carry
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You're pretty smart for a commie. 
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....ummmm speaking of responsible
I figured responsible adults would follow current rules and laws and not illegally carry a restricted firearm like a vigilante, somehow the laws do not apply to you?
LC 
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Well said. If a responsible adult doesn't like the current laws, he works to change the laws, he doesn't violate them , just because they don't suit him.
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I figured responsible adults would follow current rules and laws and not illegally carry a restricted firearm like a vigilante, somehow the laws do not apply to you?
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I think that's stretching it a little. I doubt he feels like a vigilante. He was carrying an illegal weapon yes, but in doing so he gets to be around for a little while longer. If breaking a law meant saving my life, would I? More than likely. I couldn't care less who carries a sidearm while hunting. Provided you are using it safely and for the reason in which he was using it. That being said, I would also know the consequences, and be prepared to suffer them if I got caught. I'm sure there are more than one or two on this forum who do.
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Well said. If a responsible adult doesn't like the current laws, he works to change the laws, he doesn't violate them , just because they don't suit him.
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The book of the law should have been thrown at him and it's to bad it was not.
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Actually, it's a shotgun (chopped down 12ga Winchester 1887 clone ). But yes, it looks like a great tool for many applications.
I'm not so sure I'd want to shoot it one-handed though ...
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I believe that no charges resulted, because of the public outcry that would have likely resulted. That would have most certainly led to people demanding that the laws be changed, and the government wanted to avoid that situation.
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The book of the law should have been thrown at him and it's to bad it was not.
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You were the hall monitor in school weren't you?
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I believe that no charges resulted, because of the public outcry that would have likely resulted. That would have most certainly led to people demanding that the laws be changed, and the government wanted to avoid that situation.
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I agree.
I don't think Robert realizes why he wasn't charged with anything sad really.
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You were the hall monitor in school weren't you?
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Elk got it you missed the point but elkhunter is not a do nothing couch rider either.
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