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02-02-2019, 08:59 AM
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Dillon 650xl advice
I'm looking a the Dillon 650xl reloading press for reloading 9mm. Looks like the small pistol case feeder for the 650xl would be a good extra to purchase to speed up the load time. I've been loading for several years but have zero experience with the 650.
If you have some insight to what else maybe helpfull I'd like some advice.
Thanks
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02-02-2019, 09:06 AM
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I have a 550 so I can load both rifle and pistol cartridges. If I wanted to solely load high volumes of pistol or something like 223, I would have bought the 650. One of those mounted at the right height on a solid bench will crank out a ton of ammo in a very short time. You also can't beat Dillon for quality of construction and excellent customer service. To maximize production you do need bullet and case feeder plus extra primer tubes so you can quickly refill the primers and carry on. Primer capacity is the limiting factor in making pistol ammo quickly.
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02-02-2019, 09:27 AM
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Thanks Dean2
I have a dedicated precision rifle press do the 650 would be for Large volume pistol.
Good call on the extra primer tubes.
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02-02-2019, 09:27 AM
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I have no experience with the 650 but have used the 550 for years. I started with a 450 and then added 2 550's. At one time I had all 3 going on the bench, setup for different calibers and loads for different shooting disciplines.
The first question you need to ask yourself is how many rounds a week you are likely to shoot and how much time you wish to spend reloading and what is it worth to you to load an extra couple of hundred rounds an hour.
I added extra attachments to the 450 and 550's as Dillon invented them but they are now all included as standard on the 650 XL. The low primer alarm system was one of the additions I found the most helpful.
Extra primer tubes improved my reloading speed greatly. With sufficient primer tubes loaded and ready to go before I started loading I could crank out 700 rounds of .45 acp an hour on the 550. This is with lots of regular use and no distractions.
You will enjoy the Dillon.
Good Luck,
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02-02-2019, 10:38 AM
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Not trying to sway you from the 650 but depending on how much you shoot you may want to consider the square deal B. I load 10,000 + a year on mine with no issues. (Prob about 40,000 loaded on mine) With 5 primer tubes loaded I can easily do 500 and hour (about half of what the 650 can do). I went with the SDB because of it's size, I didn't have the room on the bench for the massive 650. I shoot about 50/50 9mm and 40 and the switch over takes about 2 minutes on the SDB (with a second tool head). And they are about 1/3 of the cost of a decked out 650. I saw on on the exchange for $300 ish the other day I think??
If you go with the 650 enjoy, you will not be disappointed.
When I have the space and money I will have a Mark 7 Revolution (3,500 rounds / hour) ... but for now I will continue plugging away on the SDB
https://www.markvii-loading.com/The-...ion_p_332.html
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02-02-2019, 10:41 AM
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SDB only does pistol FYI
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02-02-2019, 12:05 PM
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Get an extra parts package because you'll break something while you're learning it
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02-02-2019, 12:19 PM
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You'll definitely want the case feeder and extra primer tubes. Bullet feeder isn't a must have unless you are really trying to crank up production. I do about 800 rounds an hour without the bullet feeder and even 1000/hr is doable. The powder check die is worth having in my opinion and instead of extra powder measures you can get extra powder bars. Cheaper and as effective. Dial in the charge, mark the bar for caliber, powder, etc. Change bars as you need. My 2 cents.
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02-02-2019, 12:51 PM
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Once again this forum has provided me with some great advice.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you
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02-03-2019, 02:10 PM
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You definitely want to get the case feeder. As previously noted you for sure want the powder check die! When you really get cranking out rounds it’s easy to miss a powder throw malfunction (it happens from time to time) and thus will catch it right away.
Nothing worse that weighing loaded rounds trying to find a squib or two!
And get 10 primer tubes and the spare parts kit!
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02-03-2019, 07:21 PM
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Love my Dillons.
We have a 650xl for 9mm and a 550 for 223 went halfers on them and love them.
There is a ton of tips and tricks on you tube for setup and fine tuning to get rid of any malfunctions.
Runs smooth as butter.
As said the powder alarm is well worth it and get a case gauge so you can catch any that could jam in your chamber.
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02-03-2019, 10:22 PM
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I don't have experience with the Dillon but do love my Hornady AP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMSPO1b-J3g
I use it for 45acp, 9mm, 223, 7-08 and 280AI
Easy to switch between cartridges
Last edited by hawken; 02-03-2019 at 10:33 PM.
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02-04-2019, 12:31 PM
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I think I have a shopping list together thanks to you fine people.
Xl650 press set up for 9mm.
Xl650 case feeder
A dozen primer tubes large and small
Spare parts kit
Dillon brass trimmer
Power charge check
And multiple caliber conversion kits.
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02-09-2019, 08:03 AM
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A couple of other things I would recommend would be a roller handle and the strong mount for the Dillon. If you don’t have one already I would also get a chamber checker.
The best thing about the 650 is how easy it is to change out the tool head plate. If you have a complete tool head with all of the dies and the powder drop all installed already, it’s very easy to make the change to another caliber.
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02-09-2019, 08:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M70
The best thing about the 650 is how easy it is to change out the tool head plate. If you have a complete tool head with all of the dies and the powder drop all installed already, it’s very easy to make the change to another caliber.
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JFYI, Dillon 550 has this feature as well.......
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