Coyote Shot Shell Components

YoungBuck · #1 08-24-2018, 05:25 PM

At the end of last year i couldn't find any Hornady Heavy Magnum Coyote Nickel Plated BB loads in Edmonton, and I bought out the last stock of the one place i could find it online. The only other alternatives are 4B and 00 and i don't find them as effective as the nickel plated BB's. So i figure i might have to start reloading. However in the research i have done it seems hard to find the components that i am looking for. I basically want to make a clone of the Hornady round. Which is nickel plated BB's with a Versatite wad. I want maximum pattern density for dropping the coyotes at 50 yards like i am now. Winchesters Diamond cut wad seems okay and more like something i would be able to find.
Is there any place i would be able to get these type of components?

Dick284 · #2 08-24-2018, 05:42 PM

http://www.bilozir.net/reloading.htm

He might be at the Torrington gun show his weekend.

tikka250 · #3 08-24-2018, 06:58 PM

if kills at long range are what you seek why stop at nickle plated? if i were you i would get some hevi shot. mind you i have no idea what the loads are for that brand of shot or how hard they are to come by but its worth looking into. talk to will bilozir and he can set you up with everything you need.

elkhunter11 · #4 08-24-2018, 07:09 PM

Have Prophet River bring in the Heavy Magnum Coyote out of the USA. Prophet River imports directly, so they can get specialty loads faster than waiting to get it through a dealer.

Or have them bring in this load.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Hevi...ion/706224.uts

pikergolf · #5 08-24-2018, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Have Prophet River bring in the Heavy Magnum Coyote out of the USA. Prophet River imports directly, so they can get specialty loads faster than waiting to get it through a dealer.

Or have them bring in this load.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Hevi...ion/706224.uts

About 7.50 a shot.

elkhunter11 · #6 08-24-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

About 7.50 a shot.

Just like shooting factory rounds out of a 30-378 wby.lol

pikergolf · #7 08-24-2018, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Just like shooting factory rounds out of a 30-378 wby.lol

I checked out their goose loads, same price. A man would really have to love geese.

elkhunter11 · #8 08-24-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

I checked out their goose loads, same price. A man would really have to love geese.

For geese, I will stick with the $20 per box loads.

Smokinyotes · #9 08-24-2018, 08:22 PM

For coyotes get your self a Kicks choke tube, 31/2” 00 buck. This is the combination my buddy uses and flattens coyotes out to 70 yards.

Ariu · #10 08-24-2018, 08:24 PM

These wads seems to be similar to flitecontrol federal wads. These kind of wads are not for sale. BUT, you can use a wad stopper choke such as Pattermaster and in theory have the same results, even with normal wads. (I have some PM chokes for sale by the way)
In regard with the shot. I do not see how nickelplatted shot offers advantage over non nickelplatted. It is about energy. Every other shot will perform the same as long as they have the same initial speed and as long as they pattern satisfactory.
A couple of seasons ago, I was hunting ducks in a miserable cold and windy day when a coyote shows up at +/-30yds away. One shot with 1 1/8; #1 steel at 1600fps and the coyote was dead.

To come back to your question. You might not need to reload (yet)

elkhunter11 · #11 08-24-2018, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariu

These wads seems to be similar to flitecontrol federal wads. These kind of wads are not for sale. BUT, you can use a wad stopper choke such as Pattermaster and in theory have the same results, even with normal wads. (I have some PM chokes for sale by the way)
In regard with the shot. I do not see how nickelplatted shot offers advantage over non nickelplatted. It is about energy. Every other shot will perform the same as long as they have the same initial speed and as long as they pattern satisfactory.
A couple of seasons ago, I was hunting ducks in a miserable cold and windy day when a coyote shows up at +/-30yds away. One shot with 1 1/8; #1 steel at 1600fps and the coyote was dead.

To come back to your question. You might not need to reload (yet)

I find that nickel plated shot penetrates better on birds, because it doesn't drag the feathers into the the flesh. So perhaps it also slips through the hair on a coyote easier?

Ariu · #12 08-24-2018, 09:08 PM

Hmm, this might be true. Yes.
Have you tried mica powder on your shot. I do apply a bit of micca powder on wads and shot. Shot doesn't bridge so much during reloading and it might help with penetration too.

Puma · #13 08-24-2018, 09:32 PM

Around the farm, I just use Win Super X 12 g, 2.75" 000 unplated buck.

Drops them stone dead out to 60 yards with a full choke.

And it sure isn't seven bucks a shot.

YoungBuck · #14 08-24-2018, 11:20 PM

Thanks for the quick response. I will look into bilozir. As for some of your questions I use NP for the same reason as elkhunter11. I am pushing these rounds through a 30" barreled 870. If the coyote is within 30 yards broad side i am recovering half my shot up against the skin on the back side. Which is one reason i don't use 4B and 00 as i don't need the extra penetration but end up sacrificing pattern density. And i had to get a new full choke because my old one got really stiff to thread in and i assume from the 00 causing to much pressure. I am not a big guy, 3.5" would throw me around so much i would struggle with follow up shots on multiples.

elkhunter11 · #15 08-25-2018, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

About 7.50 a shot.

And worth every penny to avoid dealing with Bliozir again.

Tactical Lever · #16 09-03-2018, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YoungBuck

Thanks for the quick response. I will look into bilozir. As for some of your questions I use NP for the same reason as elkhunter11. I am pushing these rounds through a 30" barreled 870. If the coyote is within 30 yards broad side i am recovering half my shot up against the skin on the back side. Which is one reason i don't use 4B and 00 as i don't need the extra penetration but end up sacrificing pattern density. And i had to get a new full choke because my old one got really stiff to thread in and i assume from the 00 causing to much pressure. I am not a big guy, 3.5" would throw me around so much i would struggle with follow up shots on multiples.

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Ni.../products/519/