Jan 1 2020 Gas Hike

[ram crazy]

The price of gas jumped .12 cents over night because of the carbon tax. Thanks Justin!

[Dean2]

Strangely, it hasn't jumped in many places in Edmonton yet but I am darn sure it will. I know every gas station I passed yesterday was lined up big time..

[sewerrat]

Just looked on Gasbuddy and the price is still the same as yesterday. What bugs me is that there is a tax on natural gas to heat your home, which is an essential service.
And they give you your tax money back, how stupid.

[trooper]

Doesn't Kenny have the power to deny the idiots in Ottawa this tax?

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by sewerrat

Just looked on Gasbuddy and the price is still the same as yesterday. What bugs me is that there is a tax on natural gas to heat your home, which is an essential service.
And they give you your tax money back, how stupid.

They don't give everyone their tax money back, mine goes to some unemployed yahoo or the government pees it down the drain like the rest of the taxes I pay.

As far as Kenney blocking this, it would be nice but so far, given the court rulings to date, the provinces can't. Hope they win this in the higher courts.

[barbless]

Some of the stations in my neck of the hoods in Calgary went up 10 cents a litre yesterday already.

[Savage Bacon]

Last night on our way to our new years party gas was 94.9 then in our way home it was 114.9

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by Savage Bacon

Last night on our way to our new years party gas was 94.9 then in our way home it was 114.9

Big jump for a tax that was estimated to hit around $.05/l isn’t it? I think somebody is taking advantage of the situation, just like last time.

[Mr Flyguy]

Originally Posted by sewerrat

Just looked on Gasbuddy and the price is still the same as yesterday. What bugs me is that there is a tax on natural gas to heat your home, which is an essential service.
And they give you your tax money back, how stupid.

But it's helping to combat climate change, right Greta? HAH!

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Dean2

They don't give everyone their tax money back, mine goes to some unemployed yahoo or the government pees it down the drain like the rest of the taxes I pay.

As far as Kenney blocking this, it would be nice but so far, given the court rulings to date, the provinces can't. Hope they win this in the higher courts.

Near as I can tell one doesn’t get back anywheres close to the money they pay out for carbon tax.

Single adult or first adult in a couple — $444
Second adult in a couple or first child of a single parent — $222
Each child under 18 — $111
Baseline amount for a family of four — $888

Anyone in Alberta who filed income tax regardless of how much they made gets $444. A couple would get $666. So if you are a couple with adult kids living at home who filled out income tax last year they should each get a refund. This is another case of socialist wealth distribution. Based upon what I have seen $888 wont cover the natural gas heating tax let along any other added expenses.

[trophybook]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Near as I can tell one doesn’t get back anywheres close to the money they pay out for carbon tax.

Single adult or first adult in a couple — $444
Second adult in a couple or first child of a single parent — $222
Each child under 18 — $111
Baseline amount for a family of four — $888

Anyone in Alberta who filed income tax regardless of how much they made gets $444. A couple would get $666. So if you are a couple with adult kids living at home who filled out income tax last year they should each get a refund. This is another case of socialist wealth distribution. Based upon what I have seen $888 wont cover the natural gas heating tax let along any other added expenses.

That's incorrect, I and my partner have NEVER seen and rebate check ever. And I don't make that much money

[CaberTosser]

And it will all go to general revenue and Quebec will post another surplus and figure out yet another way to spend more of western Canada’s money on some frivolous expenditure.

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by trophybook

That's incorrect, I and my partner have NEVER seen and rebate check ever. And I don't make that much money

You are talking old NDP carbon refunds whereas Sundance is talking the new Federal Carbon refund policy.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by trophybook

That's incorrect, I and my partner have NEVER seen and rebate check ever. And I don't make that much money

Strange. I haven’t either so maybe they weren’t sent out in Alberta or maybe there is a salary so more money goes to low income?

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JohninAB

You are talking old NDP carbon refunds whereas Sundance is talking the new Federal Carbon refund policy.

Correct however that may mean the NDP system was salary capped. I am not sure if the federal tax rebate is salary capped.

[whiteout]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Correct however that may mean the NDP system was salary capped. I am not sure if the federal tax rebate is salary capped.

It's not. But because the new federal tax is only starting in the 2020 tax year, rebates won't be out until 2021

[sjr]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

And it will all go to general revenue and Quebec will post another surplus and figure out yet another way to spend more of western Canada’s money on some frivolous expenditure.

^^^x2^^^^
But they will still blame Harper for it

[MK2750]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Near as I can tell one doesn’t get back anywheres close to the money they pay out for carbon tax.

Single adult or first adult in a couple — $444
Second adult in a couple or first child of a single parent — $222
Each child under 18 — $111
Baseline amount for a family of four — $888

Anyone in Alberta who filed income tax regardless of how much they made gets $444. A couple would get $666. So if you are a couple with adult kids living at home who filled out income tax last year they should each get a refund. This is another case of socialist wealth distribution. Based upon what I have seen $888 wont cover the natural gas heating tax let along any other added expenses.

And it certainly doesn't take into account the added cost of everything we buy as big business simply raises the prices to cover any added expense, real or imagined.

Food prices have already added too much stress to most families and according to the experts will increase significantly again this year. People eat low quality food and up goes the health care expenses.

All we need now is the added expense of free dental, drugs and housing for all and a little more reconciliation,,,,,,we're going to Venezuela! :s Ha_shakeshout:

[DiabeticKripple]

Gas prices in blackfalds were just stupid yesterday.

Centex was 89.9, most other stations were 92.9, fas gas was 99.9 and petro was 102.9!

Monday petro was at 89.9

[graybeard]

Originally Posted by ram crazy

The price of gas jumped .12 cents over night because of the carbon tax. Thanks Justin!

IMHO;
Not a nickle to ever be paid.....

Turdeau, can take it out of the transfer payment.....NEVER a nickle ever goes their way until Alberta gets some normality....

Oh yes, no more transfer payments.....

Happy New Year...

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Near as I can tell one doesn’t get back anywheres close to the money they pay out for carbon tax.

Single adult or first adult in a couple — $444
Second adult in a couple or first child of a single parent — $222
Each child under 18 — $111
Baseline amount for a family of four — $888

Anyone in Alberta who filed income tax regardless of how much they made gets $444. A couple would get $666. So if you are a couple with adult kids living at home who filled out income tax last year they should each get a refund. This is another case of socialist wealth distribution. Based upon what I have seen $888 wont cover the natural gas heating tax let along any other added expenses.

Well, all I can say is I have never seen one of these rebates ever and I have been filing Alberta income tax for many years. I am going to check but last time I did it was clearly salary capped.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Well, all I can say is I have never seen one of these rebates ever and I have been filing Alberta income tax for many years. I am going to check but last time I did it was clearly salary capped.

That’s because it was a provincial plan. The federal plan has no limit for income. Everyone gets a return.

[dmac]

Originally Posted by graybeard

IMHO;
Not a nickle to ever be paid.....

Turdeau, can take it out of the transfer payment.....NEVER a nickle ever goes their way until Alberta gets some normality....

Oh yes, no more transfer payments.....

Happy New Year...

You are getting normality (whatever that is). At 114.9 cpl, you now get to pay the same as what Ontario folks are paying. Congrats and happy new year.

[barbless]

Originally Posted by dmac

You are getting normality (whatever that is). At 114.9 cpl, you now get to pay the same as what Ontario folks are paying. Congrats and happy new year.

Oh boy I feel so much better that we are now on par with our eastern Family
So with the price hike just wondering what was the price of the fuel the stations had in their tanks before the price went up. My guess would be we are paying like premium price now for regular fuel cause it's still in the tanks. Should it not go up in price until they top up their own tanks up? Just saying

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by barbless

Oh boy I feel so much better that we are now on par with our eastern Family
So with the price hike just wondering what was the price of the fuel the stations had in their tanks before the price went up. My guess would be we are paying like premium price now for regular fuel cause it's still in the tanks. Should it not go up in price until they top up their own tanks up? Just saying

The carbon tax gets added to whatever is sold Jan 1 on. Price of the gas in the storage tanks is irrelevant. That is the whole problem with any consumption tax, it is an immediate and permanent t price increase that does not respect production cost.

[barbless]

Well I guess it's another here ya go suck it up princess. Pay to play.

[Rhino81]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Near as I can tell one doesn’t get back anywheres close to the money they pay out for carbon tax.

Single adult or first adult in a couple — $444
Second adult in a couple or first child of a single parent — $222
Each child under 18 — $111
Baseline amount for a family of four — $888

Anyone in Alberta who filed income tax regardless of how much they made gets $444. A couple would get $666. So if you are a couple with adult kids living at home who filled out income tax last year they should each get a refund. This is another case of socialist wealth distribution. Based upon what I have seen $888 wont cover the natural gas heating tax let along any other added expenses.

I’ve never received a rebate

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by Rhino81

I’ve never received a rebate

No one in Alberta has received a rebate from the Federal Carbon Tax policy as it was just implemented today!

Previous rebates were from the provincial NDP’s carbon levy that Kenney scrapped when he got elected.

[Ice Fishing Maniac]

5 cents/ litre increase in Peace River overnight

[Flight01]

Originally Posted by Dean2

They don't give everyone their tax money back, mine goes to some unemployed yahoo or the government pees it down the drain like the rest of the taxes I pay.

As far as Kenney blocking this, it would be nice but so far, given the court rulings to date, the provinces can't. Hope they win this in the higher courts.

Correct. Ie: wealth redistribution