Stolen rifle /calgary police - Page 9

pacs5 · #**241** 04-09-2015, 04:50 PM

Is it to much to insinuate his intent to leave the bar with his car when he found out his car was broken into.

whiteout · #**242** 04-09-2015, 05:43 PM

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Funny there has been no mention of breath test results when officer was found having care and control of a vehicle and a crime has been commited especially when the officer was by own admission in a bar.

Why would they give him a breathalyzer? He was reporting a theft.

roper1 · #**243** 04-09-2015, 06:46 PM

How was he planning to get the car & the gun home?? After midnight at a sports bar?? By now we have convinced ourselves he is a nice young man that is not responsible for his actions, just a lot unlucky, no one here mature enough to think he might drive home??? After all, none of us ever have, correct?? I guess he might have hitch-hiked, or called a cab, you know, with a Pelican case, a semi-auto rifle, some prohib mags, what could go wrong??

rem338win · #**244** 04-09-2015, 08:22 PM

Man, some folks sure feel the need to stretch for reasons to hate on the police. Wait for there to be charges and disclosure of facts to be made.

The only obvious thing we can grasp from the statements made by the Superintendant is he is upset and angry, so be sure a thorough investigation is being.made and charges will be laid if they can.

Personally, I hope they get the rifle back and charge the theif too.

crunchiespg · #**245** 04-10-2015, 12:21 AM

As some of you may know I'm ex police. And I don't have any great respect for the cps.
Well based on what I just heard my lack of respect has once again been proven true. What a story this is turning out to be.

Let's just say there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye.

Lol. I sincerely hope the cps gets a clean sweep. It's rotten from top to bottom.

Ps. To end some of the arguments in this thread. Policy does allow for duty firearms to be taken home. So if that was the full story here then it would be fine. But it appears it isn't.

roper1 · #**246** 04-12-2015, 10:21 PM

So I can't find any reports saying they have found the gun, how long does that nice young fella get time off with pay?? Another question is how long the statute of limitations is, say for instance that gun is used in a crime 3 years from now, who is responsible ??

New Hunter Okotoks · #**247** 04-12-2015, 10:35 PM

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Another question is how long the statute of limitations is, say for instance that gun is used in a crime 3 years from now, who is responsible ??

The criminal is the one who is responsible for the crime. I don't think that the officer who had the rifle stolen would be charged criminally with anything extra even if the gun was used today.

I suppose someone could try to argue negligence in a civil suit though. Since we are talking about the CPS, I'm sure that most lawyers would be drooling at settling a multimillion dollar civil suit no matter how much time had gone by.

roper1 · #**248** 05-01-2015, 11:56 AM

CPS proud of how many cops worked 24/7 to find the gun & evidence......now nothing but crickets...............

Got Juice? · #**249** 05-01-2015, 08:06 PM

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CPS proud of how many cops worked 24/7 to find the gun & evidence......now nothing but crickets...............

The whole thing is rotten. The attitude of the police.. the double standards of law they impose on the public vs them, and the 'finding' of the gun, and the laying of NO CHARGES....

crunchiespg · #**250** 05-01-2015, 08:10 PM

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The whole thing is rotten. The attitude of the police.. the double standards of law they impose on the public vs them, and the 'finding' of the gun, and the laying of NO CHARGES....

It's hard to charge someone who didn't steal anything............

Read into that what you will.

elkhunter11 · #**251** 05-01-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by roper1

CPS proud of how many cops worked 24/7 to find the gun & evidence......now nothing but crickets...............

So how many other cases did they set aside to find the rifle that should never have been in the officer's private vehicle in the first place?

roper1 · #**252** 05-01-2015, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchiespg

It's hard to charge someone who didn't steal anything............

Read into that what you will.

Do you charge someone for saying it was stolen if it wasn't? Who pays for the man-hours trying to find an un-lost gun?? I would think by now the Calgary media would also be wondering and asking some good questions. Might have to wait til the May 5 excitement subsides.....

Redfrog · #**253** 05-02-2015, 12:36 AM

Is it time to riot yet?

roper1 · #**254** 05-02-2015, 12:40 AM

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Is it time to riot yet?

Not till after we lose the 4th game.....

crunchiespg · #**255** 05-02-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by roper1

Do you charge someone for saying it was stolen if it wasn't? Who pays for the man-hours trying to find an un-lost gun?? I would think by now the Calgary media would also be wondering and asking some good questions. Might have to wait til the May 5 excitement subsides.....

Yes you should be charging someone. But then that would be the open and honest way to do things. But that's not how it's done. Lol.
Why would the media be asking questions when they are all in the pocket of the police anyway? And the police will simply tell the media what they like regardless of the truth.
Go ask the office of the privacy commission their feelings about the police in Alberta and their amazing ability to accidentally "lose" documents when people make foip requests that have evidence of their wrong doing.
In one close friends case they managed to "lose" 300 pages after they sent him a highly censored version after he caught them lying and cheating while he worked for them.
It's funny how in all my years in the police I never lost any evidence and would of gone to jail if I did. But when it comes to showing how bad they are it seems like HQ has crazy glued the delete key down.

I really hope the truth in this case leaks.

Of course when it comes down to the fact that the police investigate themselves for any wrong doing it's hardly unbiased. I mean given the choice would you find yourself guilty?

Lefty-Canuck · #**256** 05-02-2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crunchiespg

Yes you should be charging someone. But then that would be the open and honest way to do things. But that's not how it's done. Lol.
Why would the media be asking questions when they are all in the pocket of the police anyway? And the police will simply tell the media what they like regardless of the truth.
Go ask the office of the privacy commission their feelings about the police in Alberta and their amazing ability to accidentally "lose" documents when people make foip requests that have evidence of their wrong doing.
In one close friends case they managed to "lose" 300 pages after they sent him a highly censored version after he caught them lying and cheating while he worked for them.
It's funny how in all my years in the police I never lost any evidence and would of gone to jail if I did. But when it comes to showing how bad they are it seems like HQ has crazy glued the delete key down.

I really hope the truth in this case leaks.

If you have a whistle....blow it

LC

Got Juice? · #**257** 05-02-2015, 06:03 PM

very fitting....

roper1 · #**258** 05-25-2015, 09:31 PM

Jeez, I see it took the CPS about a week to charge Denny Morrison with running a yellow, this must be one heck of an investigation, you know, all the manpower to find the 'carbine' must still be on the QT until they find the notebooks........