Stolen rifle /calgary police

[roper1]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Wow roper your ability to comprehend is sufficient enough in surprised they haven't asked you to head up the investigation.

No one stuffed a foot in their mouth, just noted cops do practice on their own time, but keep bashing away.

What is it you do for a living? Something pure where everyone watches your every move and you all have managed to stay out of the lime light due to angelic practices and behaviour I am sure.

Cop did something dumb, the other cops are doing what they can to make sure the public doesn't pay a dear price for his mistake. Their is an investigation going on about his actions. Lordy! Those nefarious coppers are trying to take advantage of poor roper and the other citizens of Calgary! Circle the wagons!

Make me laugh.

So you are saying he was practicing at home or at the restaurant??? Because nothing in the CPS report states anything about him practicing at the range. The CPS should just allow you to conduct the investigation & it would all go away, nothing happened, all good, nothing to see here folks...I for one am not laughing, says a lot about you how funny you find it

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by roper1

So you are saying he was practicing at home or at the restaurant??? Because nothing in the CPS report states anything about him practicing at the range. The CPS should just allow you to conduct the investigation & it would all go away, nothing happened, all good, nothing to see here folks...I for one am not laughing, says a lot about you how funny you find it

I'm paused by the absolute brilliance of the response to which I already pointed out a lack of reading comprehension to.

All I did was throw reasonable options out there to point out the unreasonable nature of certain responses. The media has provided very little info. It says the officer explained himself as taking it home to clean it. Do you clean clean guns? Maybe he was practicing and instead of driving back to storage figured he'd go home and clean it, no harm done. Conjecture? Yes, no different to all your quick slagging and hand wringing.

I did state that this was dumb on the part of the cop, but you missed that. I also said the article says they are taking the fact that a restricted gun and prohibit mags are now in who know's hands and they are going at finding it hard. I also said they are likely doing this so no member of public pays the price for the mistake of one. But again, you missed that. I'm sorely disappointed that this happened, and cringe at the repercussions.

I'm laughing at how quick you are to jump to the conclusions you want, to support your bias, and to continue justifying your dislike of the Po-Po.

Do yourself a favor, and wait for a real report. The cop lost his gun, there will be a real investigation vs this make believe one.

Cheers.

[roper1]

You discuss comprehension but the media pointed out two full mags with the gun. You make a gun dirty without shooting it ?? You ever try a little math & figure the mathematical probability of that vehicle being the one broken into?? A criminal stole the gun, it might well prove that a criminal allowed the gun to be stolen, why don't you wait for the investigation, instead of trying to inject your bias???

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by roper1

You discuss comprehension but the media pointed out two full mags with the gun. You make a gun dirty without shooting it ?? You ever try a little math & figure the mathematical probability of that vehicle being the one broken into?? A criminal stole the gun, it might well prove that a criminal allowed the gun to be stolen, why don't you wait for the investigation, instead of trying to inject your bias???

Oh so because he didn't shoot all the ammo he's obviously in on it and a criminal? That's why he's willing to lose his job and face criminal charges...for at best a couple G's "selling" it to a criminal.

You should write mystery novels. You're good at this.....

You make so much sense; pass the tinfoil, I want in on this club!

I already said I'm happy to wait for an investigation before jumping out of my armchair and yelling "told ya so"!

[roper1]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Oh so because he didn't shoot all the ammo he's obviously in on it and a criminal? That's why he's willing to lose his job and face criminal charges...for at best a couple G's "selling" it to a criminal.

You should write mystery novels. You're good at this.....

You make so much sense; pass the tinfoil, I want in on this club!

I already said I'm happy to wait for an investigation before jumping out of my armchair and yelling "told ya so"!

No need to write mystery novels, you have managed to avoid the coincidence of that particular vehicle being targeted, you don't wonder even a little?? A man of your obvious experience & comprehension??? As well you are very comfortable with the investigation's progress, I think CTV could find the gun quicker, they did with the CPS speeding in school zones, that might actually be dangerous also.

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Oh so because he didn't shoot all the ammo he's obviously in on it and a criminal? That's why he's willing to lose his job and face criminal charges...for at best a couple G's "selling" it to a criminal.

You should write mystery novels. You're good at this.....

You make so much sense; pass the tinfoil, I want in on this club!

I already said I'm happy to wait for an investigation before jumping out of my armchair and yelling "told ya so"!

Ok mr politically correct. You jump out of your armchair criticizing others all the while praising your own neutrality. Last time I checked the police didn't need a fan club to justify their actions... But maybe some common sense.

[BlackHeart]

If his excuse is "taking it home to clean".....its BS.
Since when do you need to take two full mags home to clean a gun?

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by BlackHeart

If his excuse is "taking it home to clean".....its BS.
Since when do you need to take two full mags home to clean a gun?

Bingo....dude had a hot date and was trying to impress with his hardware....

LC

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Bingo....dude had a hot date and was trying to impress with his hardware....

LC

This is far more likely. And so is a criminal following him from the detachment.
Keep going rop'd a deer. CTV's epicly conclusive investigation? Well they found their target audience.

I'll step back and watch now. No point in bringing....common sense. No fan base here, stupid is as stupid does is all I said. I just think it's funny how far some folks went with "he took it home to clean it". Now it's organized theft of firearms. Slow clapping for you....

[Got Juice?]

Originally Posted by BlackHeart

If his excuse is "taking it home to clean".....its BS.

"The Check is in the mail"

[roper1]

Originally Posted by rem338win

This is far more likely. And so is a criminal following him from the detachment.
Keep going rop'd a deer. CTV's epicly conclusive investigation? Well they found their target audience.

I'll step back and watch now. No point in bringing....common sense. No fan base here, stupid is as stupid does is all I said. I just think it's funny how far some folks went with "he took it home to clean it". Now it's organized theft of firearms. Slow clapping for you....

So make up your mind, He was at the range practicing, or a criminal followed him home from the detachment. Said criminal just so happened to be hanging around that particular detachment, or cops are taking restricted guns & prohibited mags home all the time. all a perp has to do is follow one to the restaurant??? Who is wearing the tinfoil???

[Cappy]

Guy made a bone head mistake and should pay the consequences for it.

As for the full mags issue. Is it not reasonable to shoot practice ammo and not your duty ammo? I better be careful next time I stop on my way to a match, heaven forbid if I stop and eat any where and one of my evil restricted comp guns gets swiped out of my private vehicle. If it's up to some on this board I should be quartered for it.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Guy made a bone head mistake and should pay the consequences for it.

As for the full mags issue. Is it not reasonable to shoot practice ammo and not your duty ammo? I better be careful next time I stop on my way to a match, heaven forbid if I stop and eat any where and one of my evil restricted comp guns gets swiped out of my private vehicle. If it's up to some on this board I should be quartered for it.

Technically you cannot stop and eat and leave the vehicle unattended...that's part of the LTATT specification. Direct route too and from.

I think the issue is many folks feel the officer will not be held to the same regard the rest of us who own restricted firearms are.

LC

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by Jack&7

First....what is a "patrol rifle"?

It's a 'patrol rifle' when the police have it, with expanded capacity magazines. When I have one, it is a restricted 'assault rifle'. For media purposes of course.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by roper1

So make up your mind, He was at the range practicing, or a criminal followed him home from the detachment. Said criminal just so happened to be hanging around that particular detachment, or cops are taking restricted guns & prohibited mags home all the time. all a perp has to do is follow one to the restaurant??? Who is wearing the tinfoil???

How about you answer a question? One of many put to you. Instead you keep trying to make straw man arguments because your " the cop must've been selling it" scenario looks so ridiculous you want to destract folks from it. Or maybe it's a conspiracy to put arms in the hands of bad guys so they can justify a minigun on their helicopter!

All I said is buddy pulled a dumb dumb. Someone did target the vehicle, and Occam's Razor would say it was a prowling, next step maybe followed from where cop guns always can be found at some point: their detachment or range! I would guess he didn't come out of the range or detachment with a gun case big enough for a rifle hidden in a gym bag. Escalating from there I'm sure your paranoia can come up with lots. I'm speculating, creating conjecture, pontificating. I've said this. You just keep ignoring that, and going on rabbit trails that share little with my point.

You still have a monopoly on the tinfoil. Where is the next straw man?

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Technically you cannot stop and eat and leave the vehicle unattended...that's part of the LTATT specification. Direct route too and from.

I think the issue is many folks feel the officer will not be held to the same regard the rest of us who own restricted firearms are.

LC

And we should agree that the law is stupid. Cops and civilians will always have differences as they have from the beginning. But if a guys wants to stop and have a steak sandwich and a pint with his rifle in the trunk, it should be the thief we persecute. And some people can't wait to jump all over authority when it trips up.

That said, I am happy the cops are trying to chase down the gun while its in the wrong hands.

[Got Juice?]

In the spirit of EASTER and the C8 Patrol Carbine, I was going to find an appropriate picture for this thread.


Unfortunately I could not find one


Happily, when I googled Jesus and Assault Rifle........

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by rem338win

And we should agree that the law is stupid. Cops and civilians will always have differences as they have from the beginning. But if a guys wants to stop and have a steak sandwich and a pint with his rifle in the trunk, it should be the thief we persecute. And some people can't wait to jump all over authority when it trips up.

That said, I am happy the cops are trying to chase down the gun while its in the wrong hands.

If it's legal for an off duty police officer to stop and have lunch with a restricted weapon, and prohibited magazines in his personal vehicle, then it should be legal for anyone else to do the same. Unfortunately, our mixed up laws don't work that way.

As for the police trying to recover the stolen firearm, of course they will be trying to recover it, it's their job. It's not like they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. And the fact that it was stolen from one of their own officer's private vehicles, should be a little extra incentive.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by rem338win

How about you answer a question? One of many put to you. Instead you keep trying to make straw man arguments because your " the cop must've been selling it" scenario looks so ridiculous you want to destract folks from it. Or maybe it's a conspiracy to put arms in the hands of bad guys so they can justify a minigun on their helicopter!

All I said is buddy pulled a dumb dumb. Someone did target the vehicle, and Occam's Razor would say it was a prowling, next step maybe followed from where cop guns always can be found at some point: their detachment or range! I would guess he didn't come out of the range or detachment with a gun case big enough for a rifle hidden in a gym bag. Escalating from there I'm sure your paranoia can come up with lots. I'm speculating, creating conjecture, pontificating. I've said this. You just keep ignoring that, and going on rabbit trails that share little with my point.

You still have a monopoly on the tinfoil. Where is the next straw man?

OMG & you were chirping about comprehension. My references to steroids, bribes, etc were all relevant to events involving police in just the very near term. This gun theft just another example of incompetence or worse, the point was when does it go from incompetence to nefarious?? You confident you know where that line is?? When you discuss scenarios, it is from the perspective that they are all innocent mistakes, no chance the guy might be in it for the cash as in the bribery suspensions. You also denigrate the CTV investigation because it puts a lot of CPS in a bad light.I call BS & suggest you freshen up your comprehension, you might have at least understood some of the parallels I was drawing right from the start.

[rem338win]

I found the culprits. They needed to defend their nest egg....
LC is on the......left.

[6gunner]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Technically you cannot stop and eat and leave the vehicle unattended...that's part of the LTATT specification. Direct route too and from.

I think the issue is many folks feel the officer will not be held to the same regard the rest of us who own restricted firearms are.

LC

Technically if the restaurant is on the direct route you are fine. The LTATT allows us to travel to any range in the province. How many times have one of us stopped at a gas station, or restaurant on the way to the range or a match. What happens if my truck is stolen while paying for fuel?

Not saying that it is cool if the guy was boozing it up with an unsecured C8 in the vehicle but lets not jump to conclusions.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If it's legal for an off duty police officer to stop and have lunch with a restricted weapon, and prohibited magazines in his personal vehicle, then it should be legal for anyone else to do the same. Unfortunately, our mixed up laws don't work that way.

As for the police trying to recover the stolen firearm, of course they will be trying to recover it, it's their job. It's not like they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. And the fact that it was stolen from one of their own officer's private vehicles, should be a little extra incentive.

Clay, that's what I said. Thanks for paraphrasing though.

[CNP]

Originally Posted by bat119

I wonder if was full auto? that would make it prohibited

The news article says that the rifle is a semi-auto.

Originally Posted by rem338win

Don't believe so. Just a C8 if I understand, and they happen to have been selling a couple at the gun show.....Wait a minute....��

C7/C8 (all variants) are select fire with full auto as a selection. Unless it is one of these variants...In 2011, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police adopted the C8 IUR (Integrated Upper Receiver) with ancillary components as their patrol carbine.[6][7] These rifles have been built as semi-automatic only. Was it a C8?

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If it's legal for an off duty police officer to stop and have lunch with a restricted weapon, and prohibited magazines in his personal vehicle, then it should be legal for anyone else to do the same. Unfortunately, our mixed up laws don't work that way.

As for the police trying to recover the stolen firearm, of course they will be trying to recover it, it's their job. It's not like they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. And the fact that it was stolen from one of their own officer's private vehicles, should be a little extra incentive.

Finally someone acknowledges that the magazines are prohibited devices.

[Got Juice?]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I found the culprits. They needed to defend their nest egg....
LC is on the......left.

LOL, I think this is the one CPS lost..

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I found the culprits. They needed to defend their nest egg....
LC is on the......left.

Why can't I be the one with the "patrol rifle"??....

LC

[shooter]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I found the culprits. They needed to defend their nest egg....
LC is on the......left.

Looks like you bachelor party!

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by shooter

Looks like you bachelor party!

Camo loin cloths??

LC

[Got Juice?]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Camo loin cloths??

LC

lol... here is a better snapshot.....

Only one thing is dangerous in the pic... and it isn't the rifle (redheads..very dangerous)

Sad to derail.. had to get some levity.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by roper1

OMG & you were chirping about comprehension. My references to steroids, bribes, etc were all relevant to events involving police in just the very near term. This gun theft just another example of incompetence or worse, the point was when does it go from incompetence to nefarious?? You confident you know where that line is?? When you discuss scenarios, it is from the perspective that they are all innocent mistakes, no chance the guy might be in it for the cash as in the bribery suspensions. You also denigrate the CTV investigation because it puts a lot of CPS in a bad light.I call BS & suggest you freshen up your comprehension, you might have at least understood some of the parallels I was drawing right from the start.

Hahaha, you're so funny. Those definitions are clear: I like
Websters.

And draw the parallels for us? I'm still gases that you think a cop with three years figures a C8 is just gonna disappear and no one will notice with him pennies the richer compared to a career and pension. If you think that's reasonable, I can't wait to see your parallels!

Oh I see, it's an RCMP/EPS/CPS organized crime ring that uses years of experience fighting crime to........get caught being the dumbest criminals ever. Strong and apparent parallel, my bad.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by shooter

Looks like you bachelor party!

I thought I drank enough to forget that. It's all coming back....

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Why can't I be the one with the "patrol rifle"??....

LC

Cause it's not left handed.

Originally Posted by ehntr

The news article says that the rifle is a semi-auto.



C7/C8 (all variants) are select fire with full auto as a selection. Unless it is one of these variants...In 2011, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police adopted the C8 IUR (Integrated Upper Receiver) with ancillary components as their patrol carbine.[6][7] These rifles have been built as semi-automatic only. Was it a C8?



Finally someone acknowledges that the magazines are prohibited devices.

I said they were prohib. 28 rounds each was a clue.

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Camo loin cloths??

LC

They were diapers actually. Came in handy.


Dang this multi quote made me feel like elk hunter.