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07-23-2011, 09:43 PM
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Altering a magazine to make it legal
Hi all,
Just received my 6.5 Grendel AR15 variant from Prophet River... Great service, friendly staff; all worked perfect...
So, I ordered the rifle with two 4 rd. magazines. It is standard 10 rd. straight magazine tube with modified spring as can be seen in attached picture.
Looking at the criminal code, I'm not exactly sure if this is a permanent alteration that would fulfill the requirements.
Questions in my mind are;
- Is it ok to keep them like this?
- Is it ok to cut a few coild from the bottom, and open up a few so it will be 5 rounds?
Appreciate any feedback...
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07-23-2011, 09:58 PM
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I could be wrong but that doesn't look legal to me,I mean if you can remove that "so called plug" then it isn;t a permenant 'pin' to five rounds right?
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07-23-2011, 10:15 PM
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The "so called plug" is part of the spring, so if you remove the plug, you deactive the magazine. You'll need a wire cutter to increase capacity.
Criminal code states;
(a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;
(b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method.
c is for plastic magazines so not an option for me.
Too many "or"s in the paragraph, that is why I'm looking for experienced feedback...
Thanks anyways...
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07-23-2011, 11:33 PM
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what about dipping the compressed coil in epoxy resin? should be pretty darn permanent then (IMO)
would show intent to follow the law anyways.
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07-24-2011, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by So Nova *!%
what about dipping the compressed coil in epoxy resin? should be pretty darn permanent then (IMO)
would show intent to follow the law anyways.
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Makes sense, I was also thinking about soldering from inside; same outcome...
Thanks...
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07-24-2011, 09:03 AM
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To be honest i think you're just fine. As long as there's something there i don't think you'll have any problems. I've never even heard of guys getting checked never mind seeing if it was absolutely permanent or not. However let your conscience be your guide.
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07-24-2011, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timsesink
To be honest i think you're just fine. As long as there's something there i don't think you'll have any problems. I've never even heard of guys getting checked never mind seeing if it was absolutely permanent or not. However let your conscience be your guide.
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my range has police practicing all the time, and I have seen ten shot mags used that aren't pinned(not the police either).Not much fear there( I wouldn't do it,but then again I own bolts and levers)
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I know of no reason, the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes and his companions
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Eat, Drink, and be merry for tomorrow we shall surely die
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07-24-2011, 10:21 AM
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If it made it across the line legally, then chances are pretty good it is legal. Let it be.
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07-24-2011, 02:13 PM
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Appreciate all the feedbacks, thanks a lot...
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07-24-2011, 08:10 PM
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off topic question
is that firearm restricted???
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07-24-2011, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orionab1
is that firearm restricted???
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Yes it is, AR variant...
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07-25-2011, 04:02 PM
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What kind of Mag is it. If it was designated a Pistol Magazine, you can keep it at 10rnds even if used in a rifle. I don't know if anyone makes a pistol/mags in 6.5 grendal. They do make them in 223rem, and 7.62x39, I just ordered a few of each for my RA XCR.
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07-25-2011, 04:07 PM
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lol, if that isn't stretching it! A 7.62x39 in a pistol would be a hoot!
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07-25-2011, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by timsesink
lol, if that isn't stretching it! A 7.62x39 in a pistol would be a hoot!
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Definitly something to see and Hear. LOL. Muzzle flash is about 3ft out the barrel. Not for me, but some people love it.
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07-25-2011, 07:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sikwhiskey
What kind of Mag is it. If it was designated a Pistol Magazine, you can keep it at 10rnds even if used in a rifle. I don't know if anyone makes a pistol/mags in 6.5 grendal. They do make them in 223rem, and 7.62x39, I just ordered a few of each for my RA XCR.
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I've heard about these... Thanks for sharing...
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07-25-2011, 10:06 PM
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those are legal 10 round magazines for the ar 15, they are legal because they are designed for an AR-15 "pistol" variant, so i don't think you need a plug in them at all
oooh 6.8 ya maybe they need a plug in them, unless they say "pistol" somewhere on them like those lar-15 mags
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