I don't quite get our government

deepfried · #1 04-27-2009, 12:56 PM

I really don't get our government systems sometimes. I received in the mail today a request for information from the canadian firearms center telling me to call them about my PAL application. Don't you have to provide a phone number on your application if I remember correctly or don't they have phones that dial out there ? Haha .. oh well I guess just suck it up and go with it ....

Okotokian · #2 04-27-2009, 02:27 PM

I think what they are doing saves a lot of labour. You know when they are available. They don't know when you are. If they needed to get info from 10,000 people they would have to have 40 people phoning for days and days to finally get them all.

Young Eldon · #3 04-27-2009, 03:49 PM

It also creates a "paper trail" that could show up in a trial years from now - if needed.

Okotokian · #4 04-27-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Young Eldon

It also creates a "paper trail" that could show up in a trial years from now - if needed.

Not unless it was sent registered.... oh you conspiracy theorist.

Frans · #5 04-27-2009, 04:16 PM

On that note... what happens if you apply "on time" (lets assume within a few days after they send you the renewal papers), and they fail to get you the renewal before the expiry date? Am I grandfathered to take my rifle out for a hike? Kinda important to me as my PAL expires in the first week of sheep season. Hearing all the problems people are having I'm tempting to send in my renewal application right now.

Frans

thundergrey · #6 04-27-2009, 04:43 PM

Probably a good idea Frans...

hal53 · #7 04-27-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frans

On that note... what happens if you apply "on time" (lets assume within a few days after they send you the renewal papers), and they fail to get you the renewal before the expiry date? Am I grandfathered to take my rifle out for a hike? Kinda important to me as my PAL expires in the first week of sheep season. Hearing all the problems people are having I'm tempting to send in my renewal application right now.

Frans

send your renewal now, lately the service has been much better, but photo copy all correspondence and keep it with you if you haven't recieved confirmation. They will extend your new one from the date of expiry on your old one....shouldn't be a problem, had mine in 4-5 weeks

Tredeb · #8 04-28-2009, 02:37 PM

I had my renewal in good time as well, but I would not chance it. Especially near hunting season. I am not sure if it is the same group of people, but I could see the CFA getting busy as fall approaches and people buy new guns for the upcoming season.

FWIW, my PAL expired at the end of january and I sent the renewal in November. I had the new PAL before Christmas, so I think it was 4-5 weeks.

thundergrey · #9 04-28-2009, 03:56 PM

kind of on topic...

i have a WIN card, but havnt dont the hunters ed course, yet... i keep putting it off. is that just a phone call and fax over the reg number? or is it quite the process?

Frans · #10 04-29-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thundergrey

kind of on topic...

i have a WIN card, but havnt dont the hunters ed course, yet... i keep putting it off. is that just a phone call and fax over the reg number? or is it quite the process?

Sorry... what is? The Hunter Ed course?

Frans

#11 04-29-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frans

Sorry... what is? The Hunter Ed course?

Frans

"This course is a Provincial requirement for all first time hunter’s in Alberta and as such complete certification is required with an 80% pass mark on the final exam. Certificates will be issued by mail upon successful completion of the program. This online course may be taken from any internet enabled computer and can be paused and returned to at any time. Also available with this version of the program is a manual that will be mailed via Canada Post to you after the purchase."

http://www.aheia.com/cart_builder.cfm?ProductID=26407

And no Frans, without a current firearms license you will not be grandfathered. Mine was late and they suggested to me not to take any out with me till my renewal came in. Thankfully the wife had hers so we could hunt!

Frans · #12 04-29-2009, 09:49 PM

I'll be putting in my renewal shortly!

F. (I know what the Hunter Ed course is, I just don't understand thundergrey's question)

thundergrey · #13 04-30-2009, 09:56 AM

i guess im just wondering the process after you finish the course... to "activate" the hunting option to buy tags with you WIN card.

BigRackLover · #14 04-30-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thundergrey

i guess im just wondering the process after you finish the course... to "activate" the hunting option to buy tags with you WIN card.

Follow the steps on albertarelm.com - you just have to 'check off' that you have passed the course. Then keep the course certificate in safe place (just in case you ever have to prove it) or cause you'll need it again if you hunt out of province one day.

thundergrey · #15 04-30-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRackLover

Follow the steps on albertarelm.com - you just have to 'check off' that you have passed the course. Then keep the course certificate in safe place (just in case you ever have to prove it) or cause you'll need it again if you hunt out of province one day.

honor system? haha