Long Range—— 6.5 PRC vs 28 Nosler

[Kurt505]

28 Nosler vs 6.5 PRC, is it a fair comparison at long range shooting or is the 28 Nosler the next level? With a muzzle break for the bench, the recoil won’t be an issue, in Hunting situations recoil is never an issue (provided you have a scope set up properly with good eye relief), is it a one sided comparison?

[Smokinyotes]

Tough to compare the two Kurt. The 28 Nosler uses 30+ grains more powder and shoots a bullet 40-50 grains heavier. For a target rifle out to 1200 yards, myself I would be taking the 6.5 PRC with 140 Berger match Hybrid or ELDM bullets. With a 28 Nosler pushed hard with heavy bullets I’m sure you would see throat erosion after 250 rounds.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Tough to compare the two Kurt. The 28 Nosler uses 30+ grains more powder and shoots a bullet 40-50 grains heavier. For a target rifle out to 1200 yards, myself I would be taking the 6.5 PRC with 140 Berger match Hybrid or ELDM bullets. With a 28 Nosler pushed hard with heavy bullets I’m sure you would see throat erosion after 250 rounds.

I didn’t think they were known as barrel burners, at least no more than an average magnum. That’s a bummer.

I heard the 26 was hot though.

[Beeman3]

For long range hunting I’d take the 28 any day. A 195 Berger or 180 hybrid would work great. But I’ll stick with my 300 Win Mag and 215 bergers at 3000 fps. That gun and load is beyond my shooting ability as far as being capable to kill at 1000 yds. I think the PRC is even a bit big for just a dedicated practice gun. For that I’d use a 6.5x47, Creed or a 260. Works for me.

[Smokinyotes]

The 28 Nosler uses about 10 or more grains than a 300 wm, with a smaller diameter bore pushing that much powder barrel life would be significantly shorter than a 300wm

[Kurt505]

I want to get into the long range game, on paper for now but if I get any good with it, potentially on game. My practice rifle will be my hunting rifle.

[Beeman3]

Depends how far you want to shoot game. I’d go 300 Win Mag and 215 bergers. As was mentioned the barrel will be better than the 28 Nosler. Didn’t you buy a 6.5 Creed? I’d just that with a 140 Berger, 143 ELD-X or 147 ELD. Good barrel life and easy to shoot. I practice with a 6.5x47. That little gun holds enough energy and velocity out to about 750 yds for deer size game. 5-600 would be better. The 300 with the 215 has everything it takes for game out to 1000 yds, including elk. I’m just not confident at 1000 yds on game. So I limit my shots to closer.

[fish_e_o]

i know a guy with a reamer

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Beeman3

Depends how far you want to shoot game. I’d go 300 Win Mag and 215 bergers. As was mentioned the barrel will be better than the 28 Nosler. Didn’t you buy a 6.5 Creed? I’d just that with a 140 Berger, 143 ELD-X or 147 ELD. Good barrel life and easy to shoot. I practice with a 6.5x47. That little gun holds enough energy and velocity out to about 750 yds for deer size game. 5-600 would be better. The 300 with the 215 has everything it takes for game out to 1000 yds, including elk. I’m just not confident at 1000 yds on game. So I limit my shots to closer.

I bought The Creedmoor for one reason and that was for still hunting whitetail. I will use it for Coyotes and wolves, but for the most part its a hunting rifle not a bench gun.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I didn’t think they were known as barrel burners, at least no more than an average magnum. That’s a bummer.

I heard the 26 was hot though.

26 is hot. Shoot mine with out the brake and I can't say what is compare it to in terms of recoil. Might be somewhere in between my 25-06 and 257 bee. I do like the break for when I'm spotting my hits though. Should add that my 25 06 is torqued up and 257 is close to max book load.

[41thunder]

There’s a lot of calibers out there. Best to do a lot of research. That’s what I did. Comes down to where your going to hunt? What animals? What style of hunting? Backpack horseback etc? Are you planning on combo hunts? Are you planning on travelling some where exotic? Then you have to worry about ammo availability. If your going to start travelling and hunting are you loooking at one rifle for all situations? What’s your budget? What kind of scope are you using? Are you going to be in bear country? How comfortable are you with those? Are you building this for a once in a lifetime hunt? If so are you going to rely on minimum numbers or more than enough? Remember that you might not be planning a trip like this now... but who knows in the future right? Are you going light weight? Are you recoil sensitive? Do you reload? Plus many many more questions. I know where there’s a carbon fiber titanium 7 lrm sitting

[41thunder]

26 nosler is nice
More deader is better

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by 41thunder

26 nosler is nice
More deader is better

I like it. Wish I could find something to try it out on. Lol

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

26 is hot. Shoot mine with out the brake and I can't say what is compare it to in terms of recoil. Might be somewhere in between my 25-06 and 257 bee. I do like the break for when I'm spotting my hits though. Should add that my 25 06 is torqued up and 257 is close to max book load.

I’ve shot a 26 Nosler in a Nosler 48, it seems about the same as my 280rem in a wooden featherweight stock as far as recoil goes and it drops moose like they were hit with Thor’s hammer. I heard they were barrel burners so I swayed towards the 28.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I’ve shot a 26 Nosler in a Nosler 48, it seems about the same as my 280rem in a wooden featherweight stock as far as recoil goes and it drops moose like they were hit with Thor’s hammer. I heard they were barrel burners so I swayed towards the 28.

Suppose if it shoots lead it could be considered a barrel burner but you know what? Barrels are made everyday.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I didn’t think they were known as barrel burners, at least no more than an average magnum. That’s a bummer.

I heard the 26 was hot though.

I changed my first 7mmstw barrel at 1500 rounds, accuracy had gone from sub 1/2moa to around moa, with the odd flier. I don't see the 28 Nosler being much different as far as throat erosion is concerned.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I changed my first 7mmstw barrel at 1500 rounds, accuracy had gone from sub 1/2moa to around moa, with the odd flier. I don't see the 28 Nosler being much different as far as throat erosion is concerned.

That’s good to know.

Northwest Alta, I’m going to buy another Ridgeline, I’m not sure what a new barrel would be worth for one of those.

[41thunder]

https://christensenarms.com/product/...-fiber-barrel/

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by 41thunder

https://christensenarms.com/product/...-fiber-barrel/

There ya go, probably about $1200.

[41thunder]

Ya our dollar is pretty crappy right now

[41thunder]

The guys at Sylvester’s in bonnyville showed me the Christensen mpr last time I was out there. I was thinking, here we go another lead weight tactical rifle. But I was surprised by the way it handled. It seems pretty well built. Some configurations are under 7 lbs. didn’t seem flimsy at all. They chamber it in 6.5 prc. Might be a practical tactical rifle. Just throwing the idea out there

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

That’s good to know.

Northwest Alta, I’m going to buy another Ridgeline, I’m not sure what a new barrel would be worth for one of those.

Nice gun. I'm not sold on the carbon fibre though. Liked the mesa but no 26 nosler. Tim at corlanes said if you figure in loonie a shot it'll well pay for a barrel. I've spent money in worse ways.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by 41thunder

The guys at Sylvester’s in bonnyville showed me the Christensen mpr last time I was out there. I was thinking, here we go another lead weight tactical rifle. But I was surprised by the way it handled. It seems pretty well built. Some configurations are under 7 lbs. didn’t seem flimsy at all. They chamber it in 6.5 prc. Might be a practical tactical rifle. Just throwing the idea out there

Got the ca catalog right beside me lol.

[bitterrootfly]

I did some research before commenting (don’t own the 28 but have shot plenty of both). The consensus on the 28 seems to be that you can get 500-750 shots out of a barrel before some of the symptoms of barrel degradation set in (improved group size...) how long after that till it becomes a problem, couldn’t really find it, but for a long range hunting rig that doubles as a range rifle I think the nosler will come out on top especially with some of those high BC and SD long range pills that are 170+ grains.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by bitterrootfly

I did some research before commenting (don’t own the 28 but have shot plenty of both). The consensus on the 28 seems to be that you can get 500-750 shots out of a barrel before some of the symptoms of barrel degradation set in (improved group size...) how long after that till it becomes a problem, couldn’t really find it, but for a long range hunting rig that doubles as a range rifle I think the nosler will come out on top especially with some of those high BC and SD long range pills that are 170+ grains.

This is what I don't understand. At 751 rounds does the group open up from minute of angle to as in stinkys case of minute of moose?

[bitterrootfly]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

This is what I don't understand. At 751 rounds does the group open up from minute of angle to as in stinkys case of minute of moose?

Haha I can already see the replies to the last line ... i really don’t know every other person I talked to or forum I visisted just kind of ball parked it to as when they started noticing some changes.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by bitterrootfly

Haha I can already see the replies to the last line ... i really don’t know every other person I talked to or forum I visisted just kind of ball parked it to as when they started noticing some changes.

I'll have to talk to my gunsmith friend. Interesting to see what happens. Old timers still pit meat on the table with worn out 303's so I imagine at 1501 rounds out of my 26 nosler i should be able to do the same.

[bitterrootfly]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

I'll have to talk to my gunsmith friend. Interesting to see what happens. Old timers still pit meat on the table with worn out 303's so I imagine at 1501 rounds out of my 26 nosler i should be able to do the same.

True that, the first rifle I owned, a pre 64 model 70 in .270 has a bore so smooth it almost looks like there is no rifling at all and it still shoot straight every time I squeeze the trigger. Keep us updated.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

Nice gun. I'm not sold on the carbon fibre though. Liked the mesa but no 26 nosler. Tim at corlanes said if you figure in loonie a shot it'll well pay for a barrel. I've spent money in worse ways.

I believe this Christensen is the most accurate out of the box rifle I’ve owned, in the top 3 for sure. I’ve sat at the bench o few times and it’s great. The barrel is stiffened up by the fiber and dissipates heat way better than a steel barrel.

Granted I’ve only owned it a year, it’s definitly surpassed my expectations.

[bitterrootfly]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I believe this Christensen is the most accurate out of the box rifle I’ve owned, in the top 3 for sure. I’ve sat at the bench o few times and it’s great. The barrel is stiffened up by the fiber and dissipates heat way better than a steel barrel.

Granted I’ve only owned it a year, it’s definitly surpassed my expectations.

I think you might even be able to get more round out of a barrel on the ridge line than the average I mentioned earlier... damn those are nice rifles... one day.