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11-23-2019, 04:48 PM
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Drivers road test ridiculous.
I know that private driving schools not being allowed to give road tests is probably a good thing...but this is ridiculous!
My 17 year old failed his road test yesterday (rolling stop at a stop sign). Booked the test on his birthday August 29.
The next available test is January 8th...in Lamont (we are in Edmonton).
Yet I work in a part of Edmonton with a large Somali population...everyone at work and many of my customers have commented on how you drive on 107ave at your own risk because they (Somali's) are terrible drivers.
But we appear to give them license's because they are breathing
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11-23-2019, 04:52 PM
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Rolling stop! It is a stop sign pretty basic !
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11-23-2019, 04:53 PM
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Heard they recently hired more examiners to help reduce the backlog.
Might have to go for a bit of a drive, but would there be more availability if you went to a smaller center further from the city, Camrose, Westlock, Marthorpe?
It's unfortunate, but lots of people who pass the test are terrible drivers. I personally wish it was harder or a retest was required every 10 years or so.
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11-23-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BC HUNTER
Rolling stop! It is a stop sign pretty basic !
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Not to teenage boys. I remember thinking that way too.
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11-23-2019, 04:58 PM
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Why are you bashing Somalis? There are plenty of 3rd- and 4th-generation Albertans who should never have been given a license.
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11-23-2019, 05:11 PM
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My son just went through the same thing. His test was booked for months before his 16th birthday. He took the test and failed because a light turned yellow as he was going through it, all two blocks from finishing the test. Up to then he had zero demerits. We talked to the AMA tester and he said that it was one of their rules that if you go through on a yellow it’s an automatic fail. We asked if it would have been safe to stop at that point and he admitted that probably not. So, it’s just a cash grab if that’s the case.
The re-write was 3 months out but we called every morning for a week and they had a cancellation so he got back in early. He passed the second time with zero demerits.
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11-23-2019, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BC HUNTER
Rolling stop! It is a stop sign pretty basic !
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Did I say I was complaining about this????
I'm complaining about the time frame...or are you too thick to get that?
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11-23-2019, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtodrick
you drive on 107ave at your own risk because they (Somali's) are terrible drivers.
But we appear to give them license's because they are breathing
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But did they roll a stop sign during their driving test?
I've seen plenty of white folk who should not be allowed to operate a vehicle at all.
I can't believe the wait times are that long though, that's horrible.
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11-23-2019, 05:27 PM
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I can vouch for the 107 ave area and their bad drivers. Worked in that area for 20 years and thankfully now work on the west side. One thing that really gets me is people that think they can turn left out of an alleyway onto 107ave and they block lanes of traffic by slowly pulling out one lane at a time until they have both lanes blocked, and about 6 or 7 cars deep until they get into the far lane. Or they try to cross the WHOLE 107 ave and block 4 lanes! Have seen that at least twice.
The LRT just complicates matters worse. Don't even get me started on that lol.
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11-23-2019, 05:33 PM
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The time frame is ridiculous, and it certainly seems that the evaluators are tougher on younger people. I know older people that were passed, that shouldn't have, one close relative could not parallel park at all, and was passed, but was told to practise her parking.
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11-23-2019, 05:35 PM
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Try thorhild if they are still doing it.
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11-23-2019, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The time frame is ridiculous, and it certainly seems that the evaluators are tougher on younger people. I know older people that were passed, that shouldn't have, one close relative could not parallel park at all, and was passed, but was told to practise her parking.
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You are allowed so many demerit points so to speak on the road test.
I assume parallel parking would be pretty low on the list as compared to safety violations such as not stopping at stop signs and speeding and such.
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11-23-2019, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
Did I say I was complaining about this????
I'm complaining about the time frame...or are you too thick to get that?
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Nope, you are complaining about the road test. That is why you include the "bad" Somali drivers. If you can't come to a complete stop during a road test...I don't know what to say.
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11-23-2019, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtodrick
Did I say I was complaining about this????
I'm complaining about the time frame...or are you too thick to get that?
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not sure you should be driving with that temper, and did you pass that a.ong to,your child? 🤪🤪🤪
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11-23-2019, 05:50 PM
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I agree the wait time is ridiculous and totally unacceptable. As far as the
rolling stop goes, I know it results in an automatic fail. I learned this by first hand personal experience 15 years ago. Try a small test center if you can.
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11-23-2019, 06:00 PM
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Lay off fellas. It is ridiculous the wait time for a driving test.
As for driving where Bob works everyday, in my opinion you take your life in your hands. It is really bad. I avoid 107 ave like the plague from 116 st east to the stadium.
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11-23-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
You are allowed so many demerit points so to speak on the road test.
I assume parallel parking would be pretty low on the list as compared to safety violations such as not stopping at stop signs and speeding and such.
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You are allowed three attempts, but you must successfully parallel park to pass the test. The person that I posted about
told me that she failed at all three attempts, and thought that she was going to fail the test, but was given a pass, and told to practise her parking.
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11-23-2019, 06:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
You are allowed three attempts, but you must successfully parallel park to pass the test. The person that I posted about
told me that she failed at all three attempts, and thought that she was going to fail the test, but was given a pass, and told to practise her parking.
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Point is, doubt she would of been told to practice her stopping if she never stopped on all of her tests... lol
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11-23-2019, 06:24 PM
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Point is, doubt she would of been told to practice her stopping if she never stopped on all of her tests... lol
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The point is, she should have failed.
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11-23-2019, 06:26 PM
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I'd like to see some more classroom driving theory and road test parameters instituted. Lets take for instance the driver who realizes they're going to miss an exit who make abrupt and unsafe manoeuvers to make that exit they didn't plan ahead for, or the turn they're not in the correct lane for. I think it should be drilled into new drivers that if they miss an exit or turn that its fine, just stay calm and spend the extra 4-5 minutes doubling back from the following exit or intersection. A couple of minutes is cheaper than vehicular damage / injury/ death and the time 'wasted' on calmly opting to take that longer route is still way less time than dealing with the police, insurance, body shops, ambulance &/or coroner.
I wish we had more stringent testing and training overall.
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11-23-2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The point is, she should have failed.
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I doubt it. He probably used his discretion and concluded she did everything else well and it’s not a big safety issue such as stopping at stop signs for example.
Cops don’t give every speeder a ticket either. Discretion.
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11-23-2019, 06:39 PM
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I doubt it. He probably used his discretion and concluded she did everything else well and it’s not a big safety issue such as stopping at stop signs for example.
Cops don’t give every speeder a ticket either. Discretion.
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As I said previously, failing to come to a complete stop during a road test
results in an automatic failure. No discretion.
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11-23-2019, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger CS
As I said previously, failing to come to a complete stop during a road test
results in an automatic failure. No discretion.
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I know. I read that.
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11-23-2019, 06:47 PM
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Some testers just don't want to pass teenage boys on their first attempt.
I think that's been going on for a few generations now.
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11-23-2019, 07:00 PM
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The road test should consist of 1000 merges!! I’m so sick and tired of being stuck behind some idiot doing 60/kph merging into 100/kph traffic.
Dodger.
Whew, I feel better now.
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11-23-2019, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Some testers just don't want to pass teenage boys on their first attempt.
I think that's been going on for a few generations now.
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Exactly my point, this has been going in for a long time.
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11-23-2019, 07:12 PM
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Rolling stop and a fail....hmmmm there must have been a few more mistakes to complete the fail.
I see bad drivers all the time....race has nothing to do with it.....some just turn into idiots behind the wheel.
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11-23-2019, 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dodger
The road test should consist of 1000 merges!! I’m so sick and tired of being stuck behind some idiot doing 60/kph merging into 100/kph traffic.
Dodger.
Whew, I feel better now.
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But as soon as they are in the lane, bam, 130.
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11-23-2019, 07:15 PM
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I'd advise that you don't do a road test using a BMW...they don't have signal lights
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11-23-2019, 07:24 PM
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I took the advanced road test in 2012 to remove the GDL from my license. I drove like a grandma 5-10 km/h under the entire time, two hands on the wheel at all times. Gentle and complete stop at every red light and stop sign. The guy says to me, "you know it's okay to do the speed limit and occasionally exceed it." I told him I didn't wanna waste my money for the test.
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