Search for the light rifle - Page 2

capthook · #31 08-17-2008, 11:34 PM

Hello all...

I know this was about Sako rifles but what about Savages. I have two Savage rifles, both shot extremely well right out of the box, and the 116 FCSS chambered in 270 win weighs in at 6.5 lbs - add a scope, bases and a sling and you are right on 7.5 lbs - without trying to cut back at all... In comparison to the new cost of Sako or almost any custom gun, you could buy at least two new Savages and be reasonably certain they will shoot as well or better that almost anything out there... certainly more than adaquate for any hunting rifle...

Mike

Skinnydipper · #32 08-18-2008, 07:26 PM

Mike:

If you take an opportunity to try both the Sako and the Savage you will undoubtedly be able to understand the difference. Whether it's of importance to you is what each individual has to decide (BTW I have a couple of each).

raised by wolves · #33 08-18-2008, 09:21 PM

I found an older model 700 Titanium, in new condition, on a store shelf in Montreal. I found it accidently while cruising the internet. It was listed online as part of a discount bin. Very nice price. I lucked out on this one. Bought it and another toy, for much less than the price of the original Alaskan Ti.

With scope, mounts, ad sling, it is just under 6 pounds. After this season, I may send it of to Bentley for truing the action.

Still planning a custom job in 270WSM. I like the Sako 85 action with the WSMs, but not a fan of the stock.

Pathfinder76 · #34 08-18-2008, 09:31 PM

Did you find it in 270 WSM?

Kutenay · #35 08-18-2008, 10:17 PM

Over many years, I have done exactly that, find a good deal on a nice example of the rifle/cartridge that I am interested in, buy it, hunt/shoot it for awhile and THEN customize it to suit my needs. This is easier financially and I find that I get a superior rifle overall, this way....problem is, I can't stop at one or two or......That Remmy will be the basis for one hell of a nice alpine rifle AND it will be YOURS, I suggest a McMillan Edge Hunter Compact stock, best of the dozen plus synthetics I have had.

Chuck, I gotta STAY AWAY from guys like you!!!! I have been thinking about a NULA for some time, but, you know me, I am firmly in AD's camp where rifles are concerned and have a lot of fine, classic CRFs now. But, since you mentioned Mel Forbes being able to ship into Canada, I decided to call him this morning. What a nice guy and I am 90+% sure that I am going to get a rifle from him, when I have saved the cost of it. At my age, one of these will be ideal and help me keep hunting the high country....it's all your fault!!!

Pathfinder76 · #36 08-19-2008, 07:01 AM

I'm sorry!

Let me know if you do place the order, and maybe I just found a use for my rainy day fund.

raised by wolves · #37 08-19-2008, 06:38 PM

Chuck:
No luck on the 270WSM. I could have tried for another Alaskan Ti, but a little research has shed light on way too many problems with WSMs and the 700 design.

The older model I found was a 30-06 with the blind magazine, not exactly what I was looking for, but a really light base to start with. I will probably have it rebarrelled into a 25-06. The price was well worth it.

Still interested in the 270WSM in a lightweight. Maybe in a couple of years, Remington will tweak the receiver to better accommodate the WSM cartridges. In the i,,ediate future, I may end up picking up the Sako 85, just because it handles the WSM well, then having some custom work to lighten the whole package. Still eyeing up the H-S Precision, but apparently, this company is also having some feeding problems with the WSMs.

Tell me about the NULA. Never heard of them.

Kutenay · #38 08-20-2008, 05:09 AM

Google New Ultra Light Arms and find their website, the single example I have examined REALLY impressed me and I am almost certainly going to buy one, when I have saved the cash. These are not super-expensive as custom rifles go, but, will cost over $4000.00 delivered and scoped, here in Canada, due to our accursed socialistic tax system.

So, if you are able/willing to spend the cost of one, this is a viable option and one to research. Each person has to decide for himself what is/is not a worthwhile expenditure, I, for example, would not hesitate to spend the cost of a NULA on one and I have a LOT of rifles, now. However, I would never buy a big, 3/4 ton 4x4 and have not even sat on an ATV and would never buy/own one. "Different strokes for different folks".

raised by wolves · #39 08-20-2008, 09:58 PM

Brainfart ... I had not connected the "NULA" acronym to Ultralight Arms.

I almost bought one last month. The custom shop in Cranbrook had one in 6MM, scoped and ready to roll. I think it was under $3000. I already have a custom; and super accurate, 6MM so I held off.

Dean2 · #40 12-28-2008, 12:01 PM

Attachment 9065

If you are looking for high quality and real light, New Ultra Light Arms also kmwn as Ultralight Arms, NULAs is my pick. Have a Tikka T-3 in 338 Federal. Nice and light, good shooter, but not anywhere near the NULAs product. Have some other lightweights, all good but not in smae league.

This gun, in 308 Win, left handed, with a 21" Stainless Douglas barrel, a 3.5x10 Var-III, and sling, weights exactly 5lbs 9 ozs. Exceptional craftsmanship and as you can see shoots pretty good too. The top group is six shots, just over an inch, has two different loads and was shot from a very hot barrel to see if it wandered when hot. (target has squares that are half inch per side). The others are three shot groups just over a quarter inch.

Ordered and shipped direct to me. Took just over a year, but well worth the wait. Melvin Forbes, Forbes Rifle, makes a GREAT rifle.

Pathfinder76 · #41 12-28-2008, 01:36 PM

Dean,

I'm super interested in a picture of that rifle if you'd be willing. I'd also like to be first in line if you ever decide to sell.

roger · #42 12-28-2008, 01:58 PM

tikka, browning, winch, remmy, vanguard, ruger
big deal!
these are all entry level guns built to do one thing, sell.
instead of buying a new complete rifle just for the action? then disassembling, tooling squaring, bedding, restocking and rebarrllling, n'so on
why not buy a entry level aftermaket (panda, bat or ?) and start from there. having a 'smith tool and square the old one will ultimately cost as much and you dont have a bunch of new SPS remington parts laying around.
your gonna be fairly close in $$ at the end

If your truly serious about it, I dont feel that 3K is alot to spend on a factory gun much less a custom gun, considering a factory blaser is 3x more than that.
id much rather have a single $5000 gun as opposed to 5 $1000 guns

Dean2 · #43 12-28-2008, 05:07 PM

Chuck

Happy to post pics soon as I get time as don't have any pictures of gun right now. Have had some other custom made rifles but none that impress me like this one. Anything that helps Melvin sell more guns and keeps hin in business is great by me.

No chance I will be selling this one, have a bunch of RIGHT handed shooting buddies who would buy this lefty at the drop of a hat if I decided to sell. Any southpaw looking for a great shooting gun should be looking at Ultra Light Arms.

http://www.newultralight.com/index.html

riflebuilder · #44 12-28-2008, 05:26 PM

I just built a 6.5x55 on a Montan action and with the synthetic stock it weights just under 5 lbs. With a scop i will be right at 6 lbs. It shoots great under 1/2 minute of angle and has almost zero recoil. Next summer it is heading north to knock down that elusive Stone's Sheep,

coldsmoke · #45 01-06-2009, 09:43 PM

wrong board

ram crazy · #46 01-06-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi

Browning Titanium, heck of a gun. 1lb. lighter than the remington also.

WOW!! the browning is a pound lighter than the remington titanium. I have a remington ti 270 win and it is 5.5 lbs. I bought mine when they first came out and after I found a load it likes, I wouldn't trader it for nothing.

MountainTi · #47 01-07-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

WOW!! the browning is a pound lighter than the remington titanium. I have a remington ti 270 win and it is 5.5 lbs. I bought mine when they first came out and after I found a load it likes, I wouldn't trader it for nothing.

Check out Remington's website. The new Alaskan Ti in .270 WSM is 6.5 lbs.

ABDUKNUT · #48 01-07-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

WOW!! the browning is a pound lighter than the remington titanium. I have a remington ti 270 win and it is 5.5 lbs. I bought mine when they first came out and after I found a load it likes, I wouldn't trader it for nothing.

The Remington Ti can be made a hell of a lot lighter than the 6.5 lbs.
5lbs easy for non magnums.

There's nothing you can do to the Browning Ti. Except paddle a canoe with it.

MountainTi · #49 01-07-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ABDUKNUT

The Remington Ti can be made a hell of a lot lighter than the 6.5 lbs.
5lbs easy for non magnums.

There's nothing you can do to the Browning Ti. Except paddle a canoe with it.

Thanks for YOUR opinion. Now I am wise

Pathfinder76 · #50 01-07-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi

Thanks for the "Opinion"

There are opinions and then they are opinions. That one happens to be right on the money.

MountainTi · #51 01-07-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

There are opinions and then they are opinions. That one happens to be right on the money.

Or, perhaps, right on the bandwagon.

ABDUKNUT · #52 01-07-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi

Or, perhaps, right on the bandwagon.

Is that what the Browning guys call it?

Let me guess... you have a 'Buckmark' sticker in the window of your truck and a BOSS keychain fob?

Pathfinder76 · #53 01-07-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi

Or, perhaps, right on the bandwagon.

I drank the Browning koolaid.

It made me sick.

roger · #54 01-07-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

I wouldn't trade it for nothing.

does that mean you WOULD trade it for something?
just messin with ya!!
cheers

MountainTi · #55 01-08-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck

I drank the Browning koolaid.

It made me sick.

Either have to man up a bit or add more sugar then.

Pathfinder76 · #56 01-08-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi

Either have to man up a bit or add more sugar then.

One better. I went straight to 70/700. Something mixed right from the beginning.

MountainTi · #57 01-08-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ABDUKNUT

Is that what the Browning guys call it?

Let me guess... you have a 'Buckmark' sticker in the window of your truck and a BOSS keychain fob?

Sorry friend, my browning's only constitute a 1/4 of my safe. Many other flavors in there as well, just appreciate well built and good shooting rifles.

ABDUKNUT · #58 01-08-2009, 11:21 AM

It's interesting... I have a few acquaintances who own Browning A-bolts and absolutely swear by them. I mean, these guys just love the damn things.

In my opinion, the ones I've looked at are ugly, clunky, poorly designed and I honestly wouldn't take 10 of them for free. I also find it funny how many people believe that Browning is some kind of gold standard which all other guns are inferior to. Maybe 100 years ago, but today Browning only exists as an over-hyped trademark.

I wonder if they would sell as many, if they were stamped MIROKU, or whatever the heck it's called...