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01-22-2018, 07:40 PM
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Open country snaring
For those of you who snare in long grass and buckbrush; what height do you set your snares?. I typically set my shares in the bush at ten to twelve inches. Do you think that open country snares need to be a bit higher. I ask because I've recently started snaring open country sets with ground anchors and think I may be catching a bit far back on average.
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01-22-2018, 09:15 PM
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Open country is a challenge indeed . I've had the same problem with catching them a bit too far back because the loop was too large, but .. .. my refusals have gone way down . Try and keep the top of loop from hitting them across the eyes . Let me know the perfect height when you get it cause I haven't discovered it yet .
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01-23-2018, 05:48 PM
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So what do you think is the best size loop? I just did a measure on my shares and they are all of twelve inches. And would you say you pay as much attention to where the top of your snare is as where the bottom is?
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01-23-2018, 07:35 PM
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I try to keep them about the size of a dinner plate , 10 -11 " or so .Any bigger you are gonna get jumpthru and hip catches. Much smaller and the refusal rate will skyrocket. The smaller that you can get away with the better , but be prepared for refusals.
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01-23-2018, 07:42 PM
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Sorry missed part , if bottom is 10 - 12 " from ground that puts top 22-24" up. Can always use a chinup stick to have them.lift heads thru .Only problem with a chinup is that it adds more human scent to your set .I try to set with a natural chinup in trail ( rock or something already there that I don't have to place ) If rather have that than hitting them across the eyes with the snare
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01-24-2018, 08:13 AM
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Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.
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01-28-2018, 03:20 PM
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H380
Just wondering have you tried the Devils hatpin with coyotes?
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01-28-2018, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snareman
So what do you think is the best size loop? I just did a measure on my shares and they are all of twelve inches. And would you say you pay as much attention to where the top of your snare is as where the bottom is? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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14 inch loop with bottom of loop 14 inches above walking surface. Actually size of loop is less important than height off the walking surface, just fit the loop to the opening within reason. At 14" height most coyotes will hit the snare just under the jaw at upper area of the neck.
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01-28-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by parfleche
H380
Just wondering have you tried the Devils hatpin with coyotes?
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Never heard of it but would be interested ..please share
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01-28-2018, 06:34 PM
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H 380
Cam , This is something O Gorman does, He welds a number nine wire to a small steel stake , google it on the net it may be what or similar to what you have .
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01-29-2018, 03:55 PM
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Here's an open country spot that was remade after the last catch ..It is virtually no different than we set it originally 2 weeks ago and has taken 2 coyotes .I like to brush them in a bit but sometimes less is more .
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01-29-2018, 06:56 PM
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Open country snaring
Cool pictures H380! Thanks for those. Interesting.
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01-29-2018, 07:43 PM
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cool pictures h380! Thanks for those. Interesting.
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x 2!!!
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01-29-2018, 08:08 PM
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Very similar to your setup 380. A few years back, my first attempt at open snaring...and an overnight catch. Then I started using my quad to make trails thru long grass areas and coyotes followed them lots of times on the first nite.
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01-29-2018, 09:17 PM
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That is as close to a devils hat pin as it gets, Trust the u-all to give it a name like that LOLL What size of snare cable are you using ? It looks like three thirty seconds in the pic? I have made the change to pretty well all 1/16 19 strand since last year, I have only lost one this winter , , did not get to it soon enough generally all are checked the next evening .
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01-29-2018, 09:32 PM
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Don't know about bushmasters, but I normally use 1/16 ", however I have run out and 5/64 is in my pic..
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01-29-2018, 09:36 PM
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H380 are you still using lure at your sites. Was wondering if it is still having the same effect. Tried it but haven’t had much success. Got any advice.
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01-29-2018, 09:39 PM
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I switched to 1/16 for the open country snares....but that one could be 3/32. That was my standard snare.
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01-29-2018, 10:21 PM
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for you guys doing open country snaring what are you using for anchors?
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01-29-2018, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka250
for you guys doing open country snaring what are you using for anchors?
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Snare steak. You pound the steak into the ground and have a chain link or something to hook your snare to. And a support wire comes off and you hang your snare. One of my best spots to date was a wheat crop that got over 90% hail damage and they let the cows out into the field. The cows made good trails but there was some tall stocks of wheat left everywhere. Once the cows were out wham I was picking up yotes on the cow trails. One of the best spots I have ever encountered.
Oh the memories
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01-29-2018, 11:30 PM
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This is what I made up. And used at least a 10' snare so all the pressure was sideways and not up.
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01-30-2018, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TrapperMike
H380 are you still using lure at your sites. Was wondering if it is still having the same effect. Tried it but haven’t had much success. Got any advice.
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Magpies picked up the wick at one spot so it had to be replaced ,caught 2 dogs again yesterday. I relured the spots again yesterday , and will be pulling all snares after this cold snap next week .
Ive taken 34 at one site and 27 at another , even tho Ive only had one check that yielded no catches it did improve after I put out the lure . Problem now is I am running out of customer to catch ..very few tracks and no sightings . If there are no coyotes around the lure isnt going to help ,on the other hand what can it hurt ? One site has not had a coyote get to the bait yet , other than birds it remains untouched . The other had coyotes get in one night and eat about half . Next year the lure will go out the same time I set my baits .
Tikka 250 , as for stakes I weld a flat washer atop an 18" 3/8 rebar and stake seperately from my support wire . I use a 5 ft ext and 6ft snare and stake away from trail , only support wire is close to travel route . In brush my support wire is wound around brush to help conceal it and make it more solid .
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01-30-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushmaster
This is what I made up. And used at least a 10' snare so all the pressure was sideways and not up.
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Awesome! Thanks I have a newer spot that has a lot of open holes for dogs to get in that I can't find anythibg to anchor to. I will have to give this a go.
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01-31-2018, 01:04 PM
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OPEN country snaring with power-ram
When you're good - you're good!
Earlier this season, I skillfully snared a large male coyote in super flat open country. I chose the correct truck trail to set-up a wolfmaster ram that was laid flat then covered with grass and connected to a steel pin.
1/16" cable with support wire and gently camouflaged with grass.
In the picture you'll see the coyotes track in the fresh snow @ front of the truck tire and see the distance I walked to examine the positive results.
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01-31-2018, 02:38 PM
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That's awesome
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01-31-2018, 10:16 PM
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Can you show a picture of how you set your ram setup.
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02-01-2018, 07:17 AM
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open coumtry snaring
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Can you show a picture of how you set your ram setup.
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Unfortunately, I didn't take any photos of the SET prior to the catch and don't have any similar sets at this time. It consisted of some luck as there are two tire tracks and I chose the correct one while the coyote chose the wrong one.
The actual set consisted of choosing a spot where the standing grass was the longest and flattened by the wheels of the truck tire. A steel peg in the ground connected to RAM which is activated and laid flat with the nose of the RAM facing the trail at a 45 degree angle away from my position while I'm crouched to SET-UP the snare.
The flattened grass is gently lifted on both sides of the truck track and the snare is set in between.
1/16 cable supported by a heavier hay-wire and starnds of grass curled onto
the cable for additional camouflaging.
The bait station is 1/4 mile away...no lures used at the site...my footprints are off-to-the-side of the truck trail.
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02-01-2018, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl
Unfortunately, I didn't take any photos of the SET prior to the catch and don't have any similar sets at this time. It consisted of some luck as there are two tire tracks and I chose the correct one while the coyote chose the wrong one.
The actual set consisted of choosing a spot where the standing grass was the longest and flattened by the wheels of the truck tire. A steel peg in the ground connected to RAM which is activated and laid flat with the nose of the RAM facing the trail at a 45 degree angle away from my position while I'm crouched to SET-UP the snare.
The flattened grass is gently lifted on both sides of the truck track and the snare is set in between.
1/16 cable supported by a heavier hay-wire and starnds of grass curled onto
the cable for additional camouflaging.
The bait station is 1/4 mile away...no lures used at the site...my footprints are off-to-the-side of the truck trail.
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Your onto something here, I am going to try this set up. Likely only work with a wolfmaster and the longer snare though. Ill have to see if they make 1/16" snares for wolfmasters. Better yet 5/64" snares. Great post.
Spruce
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02-01-2018, 09:50 AM
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This is a neat thread, cool to see Everyones different strategies.
Unfortunately its not always fun and games, it can actually be quite frustrating. I have approached various snares looking like this over the winter
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02-01-2018, 10:01 AM
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Mr. Spruce
Try it with 3/64.
I think you'll like the results
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