Hiker seeking advise about trap lines

[FlyTrapper]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

I also suspect he is the same that made the inhumane snare plug in the letters to the editor section of AO magazine this month. I'm thinking Anti, time to thin the herd Mods

X6, he is obviously here to out snares but he continuous to spew the same information that he has said all along. He has no conclusive proof.

[J D]

Originally Posted by raven65lunatic

Good questions and comments - they are called killing devices, but haven't been tested to see if they are humane so they haven't been compared to any criteria. Thats the only way they can keep using them, no one knows. The humane time till death is 300 seconds for a coyote or wolf if I read the FIT material correct. I call them inhumane, the govt and FIT don't call them anything.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't know a belisle foot snare if I stepped in it and I don't know anyone who has used them.

You seem to have an issue understanding the fact that snaring methods HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED to see if they meet AIHTS standards. As I stated before there is many other traps still in the testing stage. Testing on all the different trapping methods is still incomplete. Canada is the farthest along in the world when it comes to meeting the AIHTS agreement so I think you might want to give the guys testing a bit of a break.

With the wide variety of different kinds of locks, springs, and ways snares are constructed it would be hard to lump them all into 1 category when it comes to the results. A snare is not just a snare these days.

You no doubt have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to snares. You also lack education when it comes to trapping methods and on what is going on with AIHTS agreement.

If snares were as inhumane as you say they would be a horrible tool for trapping do to fur damage and most trappers would not use them. This is not the only trap option trappers have out there to get the job done.

You have educated your self a little on the subject but you still have a lot to learn. Stick to facts, stop assuming things, and don't try and twist things to follow your assumptions.


You are best to give up because no one is buying what you are trying to sell. Your user name does fit you well

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by raven65lunatic

I took your advice and contacted the Fur Institute and they confirmed that according to their criteria snares are not humane!! -If as you say snares are just aircraft cable what do you do to make them humane? And yes I have a huge chip on my shoulder with snares. They are not humane until tested and sooner or later Canada is not going to ship a mouse hide out of the country.
From some of the photos on trapping forums it looks doubtful if they could ever pass. Check it out.

Why are we even talking about humane trapping standards?

We do not choose them or have no say in them.
The standards are ridiculously high on purpose, because the intent never was to make trapping humane, there is no such thing as a humane way to die. The whole and only intent was to stop trapping altogether.


The simple fact is all trappers have always sought the quickest way to dispatch any animal they catch because it is in their economic interest to do so. And we did so long before there was a humane trapping standard.

Last but not least, this so called humane trapping standard was imposed on us by the European community who themselves were and continue to be the most inhumane towards animals of any population on earth.



We have always sought the most humane way to harvest our animals and we will continue to do so, with or without their self righteous rules, that they themselves do not have to follow.

Because they wiped out their fur trapping industry a long time ago.

Now they trap things like Hawks, Deer, and Rabbits, they imported to replace the wildlife they obliterated.

[northerntrapper]

Originally Posted by KegRiver

Why are we even talking about humane trapping standards?

We do not choose them or have no say in them.
The standards are ridiculously high on purpose, because the intent never was to make trapping humane, there is no such thing as a humane way to die. The whole and only intent was to stop trapping altogether.


The simple fact is all trappers have always sought the quickest way to dispatch any animal they catch because it is in their economic interest to do so. And we did so long before there was a humane trapping standard.

Last but not least, this so called humane trapping standard was imposed on us by the European community who themselves were and continue to be the most inhumane towards animals of any population on earth.



We have always sought the most humane way to harvest our animals and we will continue to do so, with or without their self righteous rules, that they themselves do not have to follow.

Because they wiped out their fur trapping industry a long time ago.

Now they trap things like Hawks, Deer, and Rabbits, they imported to replace the wildlife they obliterated.

Finally some common sense! Thanks Keg.

[raven65lunatic]

Originally Posted by TRAPPER92

Sounds like this Raven guy is some sorta green peace guy. Snares are humane and an effective way of controlling coyote populations period.

Raven: go with a trapper and find out just how humane they are!

Been on traplines and trapped since I was ten years old. When I started you wanted to keep the animal alive so you could skin it - no ski do to haul frozen animals - everything done on foot. How many nights you spent in a smoke hole?

[J D]

Raven unfortunately I have read most of your posts now and they scream anti or troll.

I think you need a new hobby maybe try baking. I don't think trapping or hunting is for you

[raven65lunatic]

Originally Posted by J D

Raven unfortunately I have read most of your posts now and they scream anti or troll.

I think you need a new hobby maybe try baking. I don't think trapping or hunting is for you

For the whole hoard! why not get specific and discredit something I have said instead of calling me an anti or troll, whatever that is?

[raven65lunatic]

Lots of name calling and nothing else! You guys missed "racist"

[Pixel Shooter]

After reading thru this, think were done here.......

[South west trappin RG]

Leave it alone