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01-08-2015, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 45-70sapper
Well I have a boyds pepper featherweight thumbhole and a rifle basix sav-1 coming and I'm looking forward to seeing how or if it will end up helping me improve the accuracy along with some different ammo. Thanks for all the help and tips.
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All good, but do remember one important consideration in terms of of bullet construction. Flat based bullets stabilize in flight quickly at short distances. Boat tails on the other hand require a bit more leg room so to speak to come out of wiggle or stabalizing room. Think arrows.Consider bullet construction at such short range evaluation.
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01-08-2015, 04:50 PM
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Here's a question for you axis owners. Do they still build all of them on a long action? I had heard years ago, that even the short action rifles were built on the long action models. Making the bolt longer than it needs to be! i was thinking of a .223, or .22-250, but don't want a long action bolt for such a small round. Is this correct?? Or was I mislead?
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01-08-2015, 05:17 PM
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All good, but do remember one important consideration in terms of of bullet construction. Flat based bullets stabilize in flight quickly at short distances. Boat tails on the other hand require a bit more leg room so to speak to come out of wiggle or stabalizing room. Think arrows.Consider bullet construction at such short range evaluation.
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I had no clue about that, thanks.
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01-08-2015, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter9841
Here's a question for you axis owners. Do they still build all of them on a long action? I had heard years ago, that even the short action rifles were built on the long action models. Making the bolt longer than it needs to be! i was thinking of a .223, or .22-250, but don't want a long action bolt for such a small round. Is this correct?? Or was I mislead?
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My 243 is a long action
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01-08-2015, 05:43 PM
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My 243 is a long action
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Should be SA. What make?
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01-08-2015, 05:45 PM
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My 243 is a long action
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Is it a tikka?
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01-09-2015, 07:48 PM
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just compared my Vanguard .308 to my Axis 22-250 and the 22-250 has a similar sized action...so i would say that Axis is still built on a long action.
Fair assumption?
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01-09-2015, 07:54 PM
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Might be since the Axis II specs I looked at on the Savage site show that all the rifles weigh 6.5# regardless of chambering.
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01-09-2015, 08:06 PM
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just compared my Vanguard .308 to my Axis 22-250 and the 22-250 has a similar sized action...so i would say that Axis is still built on a long action.
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I don't know if the V2 has all one action size as I have only owned a 300 Wby in it. A 308 is a short action though so it may not be a good assumption.
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01-10-2015, 12:26 PM
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Should be SA. What make?
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An axis, they all use the same action. Only thing that changes is the trigger guard and magazine.
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01-10-2015, 12:52 PM
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I bought a youth Axis in 7mm-08 and my nephew could only shoot about 8 inches at 100 yards. I could get about 4 inches. Bought and installed a Rifle Basix trigger in it and wow what a difference. That stupid $320 ($420 with the trigger) rifle and scope stacks rounds at 100 yards. Its more accurate than my Tikka. The 48 pound trigger Savage installs was the issue with my rifle. With a full clip and the rifle cocked (no round in the tube) you could lift the rifle up by its trigger and jostled it around without "firing" it.
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01-10-2015, 02:55 PM
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Clean the barrel, leaving in dry (do not oil the bore). Foul the bore 2 shots before you start looking at "groups".
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If you don't oil the bore all the copper you worked so hard to remove will be back in the first two shots. Really important to lube the bore after cleaning with any of the 28% ammonia hydroxide copper solvents. Kroil is the best product for bore lubrication.
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01-10-2015, 03:00 PM
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When I'm done cleaning I run an oiled patch around the inside of the chamber and one through the bore so everything has a coat of oil while its in the safe. Before i go out, I run another patch through the chamber and bore to get the excess oil out. Thought that was the standard thing to do.
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01-10-2015, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 45-70sapper
Well I have a boyds pepper featherweight thumbhole and a rifle basix sav-1 coming and I'm looking forward to seeing how or if it will end up helping me improve the accuracy along with some different ammo. Thanks for all the help and tips.
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Although my Axis (.223) was accurate out of the box. I did not like the stock or trigger to much. Put a rifle basix trigger in, and a thumbhole stock, also put a Vortex SF 6.5 x 20 x 50, with weaver rings/bases. I just shoot factory ammo, but I am getting, consistent, accurate, shots out to 400 yards. I have not had to shoot a coyote yet at that range, but am confident shooting it out to 400 with a rest, when range has been confirmed.
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01-10-2015, 06:09 PM
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Nice looking rig. What does it weigh now, all in?
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01-10-2015, 07:15 PM
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Nice looking rig. What does it weigh now, all in?
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Actually I have never weighed it, I am guessing about 8 lbs. The stock was the big difference for me, gave a whole new look, but a much better feel to the rifle.
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01-10-2015, 07:20 PM
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That stock gives it a purposeful look.
I like thumbholes, but have yet to purchase one.
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01-10-2015, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowtown guy
I don't know if the V2 has all one action size as I have only owned a 300 Wby in it. A 308 is a short action though so it may not be a good assumption.
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thats why you never assume i guess?
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01-10-2015, 07:51 PM
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That stock gives it a purposeful look.
I like thumbholes, but have yet to purchase one.
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I do like the look, but it is the feel of the grip that is the big seller for me, they seem to fit my hand much better. I have replaced 3 rifles now with thumbholes.
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01-10-2015, 11:33 PM
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Well good luck. After getting axis from a Ducks unlimited dinner auction in 2014. I had to replace the rings and scope. The scope would not dial over and the rings loosened very quickly. After some wasted time and money spent it shot 5" group at 200yds. I gave it to my nephew. My 243 Browning which cost me $150.00 more scope in has a .5 group at 200.
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01-12-2015, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bobalong
Although my Axis (.223) was accurate out of the box. I did not like the stock or trigger to much. Put a rifle basix trigger in, and a thumbhole stock, also put a Vortex SF 6.5 x 20 x 50, with weaver rings/bases. I just shoot factory ammo, but I am getting, consistent, accurate, shots out to 400 yards. I have not had to shoot a coyote yet at that range, but am confident shooting it out to 400 with a rest, when range has been confirmed.
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Did you end up pillar and glass bedding? Lots of different opinions I've been reading about the nessessity of pillar bedding in a laminate stock.
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01-12-2015, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 45-70sapper
When I'm done cleaning I run an oiled patch around the inside of the chamber and one through the bore so everything has a coat of oil while its in the safe. Before i go out, I run another patch through the chamber and bore to get the excess oil out. Thought that was the standard thing to do.
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you can run a light oil patch down the bore but do not oil the chamber. it could work out not good at all
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01-12-2015, 10:44 AM
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you can run a light oil patch down the bore but do not oil the chamber. it could work out not good at all
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I have a single segment of an aluminum cleaning rod with a plastic jag that I use to dry out the chamber before shooting, my guns usually sit quite a while so I try to make sure no rust forms. Not a good idea?
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