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06-20-2015, 08:28 PM
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question regarding my sight and shooting
Long story short I had a tuning issue from the get go with my bow. Shot for months like that killed a deer and gopher. Headed into Lane to shoot a bit and they were slow so Kevin helped me out with some tuning. Got the tuning done shot a hood 2nd shot afterwards lol. Anyways I go to the range today to do some shooting. My 10 pin is on 100% But my 20, 30,40 and 50 are all shooting like 4" higher then before.
Should I move my sight and dial everything back in or should I just move my pins?? Move my sight so 20 is shooting great then move my 10 pin?? I was shooting not bad before the tuning but was having inconsistancies which is why I tuned. Not sure where I should start with this
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06-20-2015, 09:32 PM
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Close your eyes, anchor solid and open them. Is your peep sight still lining up with your eye? You should not have to move a millimeter if it was set up right and has not moved.
If the peep has not moved then you made a slight adjustment with your tuning and will have to re-sight your distance pins. On fast bows it would not be uncommon to have the 20 close to dead on and the 40 off a little bit after a slight tweak to the rest or d-loop.
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06-21-2015, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by winger7mm
Long story short I had a tuning issue from the get go with my bow. Shot for months like that killed a deer and gopher. Headed into Lane to shoot a bit and they were slow so Kevin helped me out with some tuning. Got the tuning done shot a hood 2nd shot afterwards lol. Anyways I go to the range today to do some shooting. My 10 pin is on 100% But my 20, 30,40 and 50 are all shooting like 4" higher then before.
Should I move my sight and dial everything back in or should I just move my pins?? Move my sight so 20 is shooting great then move my 10 pin?? I was shooting not bad before the tuning but was having inconsistancies which is why I tuned. Not sure where I should start with this
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You have a 10 pin?
My suggestion would be to lose the 10 pin and while you're moving pins anyway, set your closest pin to 20, then go 10 yards from there out. 20-30-40-50-60....
That way, practicing out to 60 would give you great confidence at 30 and under for hunting. Use 20 for anything under 20 and you should be fine.
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06-21-2015, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jcrayford
You have a 10 pin?
My suggestion would be to lose the 10 pin and while you're moving pins anyway, set your closest pin to 20, then go 10 yards from there out. 20-30-40-50-60....
That way, practicing out to 60 would give you great confidence at 30 and under for hunting. Use 20 for anything under 20 and you should be fine.
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20 works well for about 9 yards and up....distances under 9 a 20 may put you off your mark....granted many shots are not under 9 but you should try out your bow at 2-5 yards, it's neat to see what happens!
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06-21-2015, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 338Bluff
Close your eyes, anchor solid and open them. Is your peep sight still lining up with your eye? You should not have to move a millimeter if it was set up right and has not moved.
If the peep has not moved then you made a slight adjustment with your tuning and will have to re-sight your distance pins. On fast bows it would not be uncommon to have the 20 close to dead on and the 40 off a little bit after a slight tweak to the rest or d-loop.
JMO
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My biggest tuning issue was my fletch was hitting my cable on the way out. Once that was figured out my arrows flew much much truer 
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06-21-2015, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jcrayford
You have a 10 pin?
My suggestion would be to lose the 10 pin and while you're moving pins anyway, set your closest pin to 20, then go 10 yards from there out. 20-30-40-50-60....
That way, practicing out to 60 would give you great confidence at 30 and under for hunting. Use 20 for anything under 20 and you should be fine.
J
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Suggestion taken. Ill head out just after lunch and get to adjusting things. Thanks
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06-21-2015, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
20 works well for about 9 yards and up....distances under 9 a 20 may put you off your mark....granted many shots are not under 9 but you should try out your bow at 2-5 yards, it's neat to see what happens!
LC
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Yeah a pin in the 40-60 yd range is usually gold at those distances!
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06-24-2015, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by russ
Yeah a pin in the 40-60 yd range is usually gold at those distances!
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 We found that with most now modern bows in that 60-70 lb range ....if shooting under five yards use their 30 or 40 yard pin dead on...test yours it good to know...
Even back in the day the 10 Yd pin for bows in that 60-70 lb range was just taking up space...even then 10-22yds with a 20 yd pin would take out a standing gopher!!
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06-24-2015, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by winger7mm
Suggestion taken. Ill head out just after lunch and get to adjusting things. Thanks
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Winger, how did things work out? Did you make any progress?
Just wondering....
J.
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06-25-2015, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jcrayford
Winger, how did things work out? Did you make any progress?
Just wondering....
J.
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Well at the risk of sounding very stupid. I took some info I got and shot my "10" pin at 20 and my "20" at 30 and so on out to 60yrds. Turns out every thing was pretty close to shooting where I needed to be with minor left/right adjustments. Just shooting at lane with my highest pin and getting it sighted in I assumed that was set for 10 yrds due to shooting 10. Im glad I tried shooting using different ranges instead of moving pins all over! 
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06-25-2015, 10:45 PM
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Not stupid at all. Good thing you tried that before making adjustments. Glad to hear it's sorted out.
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06-26-2015, 08:18 AM
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The 20 yd pin when shot at 10yds for the average bow 60-70 lbs will be high at 10 yds high on the gold to where the red circles meet gold...or the 8 ring of a archery target..1.5 - 2" inches high at 10yd...dead on at 20...
Good thing you did take the time to shoot and check thats what its all about!!
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06-26-2015, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow
The 20 yd pin when shot at 10yds for the average bow 60-70 lbs will be high at 10 yds high on the gold to where the red circles meet gold...or the 8 ring of a archery target..1.5 - 2" inches high at 10yd...dead on at 20...
Good thing you did take the time to shoot and check thats what its all about!!
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high mine shoots low.... ummm most be a bowtech thing lol
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06-26-2015, 08:42 AM
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high mine shoots low.... ummm most be a bowtech thing lol
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Mine (3 bow techs) shoot low too...when you compare a Bowtech to a Mathews, well apples and coconuts 
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06-26-2015, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Mine (3 bow techs) shoot low too...when you compare a Bowtech to a Mathews, well apples and coconuts
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I thought it was compare gold (bowtech) to coal (Mathews) 
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06-26-2015, 08:46 AM
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I thought it was compare gold (bowtech) to coal (Mathews) |
I should have said apples and waffles
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06-26-2015, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Mine (3 bow techs) shoot low too...when you compare a Bowtech to a Mathews, well apples and coconuts
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Not shooting a Mathews ....them Bowtucs must have flight like this ~
...to shoot low at 10 than arrow miracously rises to 20...lol
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06-26-2015, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow
Not shooting a Mathews ....them Bowtucs must have flight like this ~
...to shoot low at 10 than arrow miracously rises to 20...lol
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If you use a 20 at 5 or 7 yards does it shoot high or low?
Faster bows approaching 300+ FPS will shoot low...has to do with the line of sight and the arc trajectory of your arrow.
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06-26-2015, 09:15 AM
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Normal Bow Arrow Trajectory
Bowtech Arrow Trajectory
lol...just messing wit ya...
I said "Average bow" ...youse guys are simply braggin now!!
lol
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
If you use a 20 at 5 or 7 yards does it shoot high or low?
Faster bows approaching 300+ FPS will shoot low...has to do with the line of sight and the arc trajectory of your arrow.
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This is correct...unfourtunately most bows regardless of IBO rating..ratings are closer to 300 and under
Due to shooters set up and other factors the average bow is only pushing 300 FPS..average bow is under
Point was if 20 pin is dead on at 10yds...highly unlikely it will be dead on at 20 regardless of FPS
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I should have said apples and waffles
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lol now thats funny!!!
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lol its all good
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06-26-2015, 03:37 PM
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For me:
3 yards = 60 pin
4 yards = 50 pin
5 yards = 40 pin
10 yards = about 25 yard estimate (split the gap from 20 and 30 pins)
442gr arrow going 277fps
(It might be a bowtech too)
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06-26-2015, 05:14 PM
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2 yards = 100
3 yards = 75
4 yards =62
5 yards =46
6 yards = 38
7 yards =28
8 yards = 22
9 yards to 23 yards within +\- 1/2" set at 20
Nitrum turbo @ 326 fps. My carbon overdrive @ 319 fps with the same arrow is comparable.
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06-27-2015, 06:05 AM
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Not stupid at all. Good thing you tried that before making adjustments. Glad to hear it's sorted out.
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Im happy to see you think so... I sure felt dumb after that lol
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