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Old 11-28-2022, 04:58 PM
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Default logic behind gun bans.... Creep

First of all they went after semi-automatics and are banned, then handguns.

The trucker convoy occupied a North American capital without firearms. With firearms they just became the largest national armed force in the capital.

This was a scare to all governments, Kenney asked for help with the Coutts border situation from the military which had to refuse as it would mean dealing with sovereign citizens.

Now they are after all the other semi automatics they left out.

Next are the long range big rifles that have over 10,000 joules.

Somehow the misnomer assault rifle got applied to all the semi automatic black chassis rifles then the government realized that chassis did not matter so all semi automatic rifles with magazines got singled out.

What is next? "sniper" style rifles going to be the next misnomer used. This is the thicker part of the wedge but it is splitting us apart. Many modern bolt action readily available rifles are capable of MOA accuracy. in ww2 a lee-enfield at 600 feet or 200 yards that could hit a 6 inch gong 10 times consecutively was set aside as LR rifles. this was 1.5 MOA

be ready for the "anti sniper rifle" rhetoric that is going to come along.

Because the government is terrified of what is possible.
pre-cursors to revolution

Taxation without representation
I pay taxes and have zero representation in the government my MLA is in the opposition so their voice is ignored. A minority is only in power because of collusion between the two other political parties.

Corruption of the government leadership
(too many examples to list from SNC Lavalin, WE, lying under oath, etc.)

political unrest (trucker convoy is equivalent of Boston Tea Party)

seizure of firearms

high interest rates (capital not available)

high inflation (government printing worthless money)

Government is very scared and when governments are scared they do scary things.

Canada as we know it is very fractured and divided and our governments want to keep it that way so they can still keep their snout at the trough.

whether it be federal, provincial municipal, or even the local school boards.

when a person is killed as the result of a motor vehicle accident there is not a call to ban cars, or booze if it is a drunk driver, or cell phones if it is a distracted driver... "Because its not fair to punish responsible users for those not being responsible"

Meanwhile they are letting up on sentences for firearm related crimes. especially since almost all of them involve illegally obtained firearms.

They are taking the firearms from the responsible reasonable people because when responsible reasonable get fed up.... then that is the final requirement for a revolution.

That is why we are targeted, the criminals are self centred and are against society so the government does not care about that but a large group of reasonable, responsible people decide they have had enough and revolt... governments fall and usually a revolution led by reasonable responsible people against tyranny results in better situation for everyone.
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:52 PM
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There is no logic behind the bans, it's all about politics. Trudeau is trying to buy votes, and at the same time , he wants to disarm the public, so that they can't resist, if the liberals get even more extreme in their corruption.
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Old 11-28-2022, 06:16 PM
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It is evidence based policy. But, if you ask to see the evidence, so sorry, cabinet privilege. We can't tell you what the evidence is. National Security. Trust us.
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Old 11-29-2022, 08:47 AM
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I have come to firmly believe that the goal of modern governments is to divide the constituency of the country on any issues that will divert attention from the incompetency of the government. If the people mistrust each other, they tend to overlook those outside the realm of common people, those who govern, for their inadequacy.
In Canada we have two groups of people divided on the issues of legal firearm possession. We blame each other for the situation we're in, where one side wants the government to protect them, not from people with guns, but from the instruments they believe threaten their safety. The other side loathes the absurdity of that notion, and sees those outside their circle as the cause of their discontent. All the while the government poses as the guardian of law and order amidst a growing violent criminal problem they have no idea how to control.
The people won't collectively work against the government if they're divided against each other.
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Old 11-29-2022, 11:44 AM
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:03 PM
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I always use the example set in the famous poem by Martin Niemöller, "First they came". It exemplifies the divide & conquer tactic & I even use it when debating Fudds that they're the exact same kind of sellouts that allowed that allowed the travesties described in the poem to happen. And for what? Feeling uncomfortable about a subject they know so little about? Feeling superior to others & wanting them suppressed &/or treated in a punitive manner?

"We hate guns, so we banned the ones we specifically allowed you to have. If you passively resist, we're sending lawyers to ruin your life & will even go as far as sending people with guns to possibly take your life" The anti-gunners unspoken mantra.

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Old 11-29-2022, 12:34 PM
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The "logic" behind "gun bans" is all about votes. Politicians don't give a rat's a $ $ about safety. They just want to get elected. Period.

It's all about "What's in it for me?". To get elected dummy!
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:40 PM
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The "logic" behind "gun bans" is all about votes. Politicians don't give a rat's a $ $ about safety. They just want to get elected. Period.

It's all about "What's in it for me?". To get elected dummy!
And then after they get elected, they spend the rest of their time in public office thinking up lies to look like it's not 100% about them.
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:44 PM
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My point is that they are scared of being overthrown not just not elected...

Votes are meaningless, a minority government was elected, the dippers became de-facto liberals and we have a "majority government" the majority did not vote for.

Election done when Quebec voted for the Bloc... taxation without representation... Alberta still making transfer payments to governement they did not elect.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:47 PM
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What scares me more than the liberal gun ban is how many gun owners are asking about the "buy back" program.....

I hope they offer nothing for your gun. Zip. Zero.

Wont be so willing to comply, like a good little boy or girl......
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:56 PM
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What scares me more than the liberal gun ban is how many gun owners are asking about the "buy back" program.....

I hope they offer nothing for your gun. Zip. Zero.

Wont be so willing to comply, like a good little boy or girl......
I hope they offer at least a few bucks...I have 3 or 4 older decommissioned cheap wall hangers that I'd turn for $$. I can then buy another real gun just to **** of a liberal lol
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:20 PM
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Every gun they buy back will be viewed as a success. Working or not.
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:27 PM
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What scares me more than the liberal gun ban is how many gun owners are asking about the "buy back" program.....

I hope they offer nothing for your gun. Zip. Zero.

Wont be so willing to comply, like a good little boy or girl......
I agree, hope they offer a big zero.
It isn't just the hunting or sporting rifle that has been bought from one's self.
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You can't use logic to figure out how the Liberal mind works. Remove logic and it begins to make sense!
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I hope they offer at least a few bucks...I have 3 or 4 older decommissioned cheap wall hangers that I'd turn for $$. I can then buy another real gun just to **** of a liberal lol
I like how you think!
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