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09-14-2017, 01:25 PM
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Imperial Special Long Range
Hi,
Wondering if anyone has tried the Imperial Special Long Range 2 3/4 shells that they sell at Canadian Tire?
Bought a few boxes in the #6 (Lead), and must say I am impressed with the limited testing I have done. I cant find any velocity data on the shells, so just looking for some feedback from others who may also use the shells.
Thanks!
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09-14-2017, 07:58 PM
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If what you have is the old CIL or IVI ammo I believe the Imp SLR velocities were around 1300 fps. If it is the new stuff that Challenger occasionally boxes in CIL dress .. I have no idea.
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09-14-2017, 08:01 PM
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I saw those as well, but they were always behind glass. They used to be manufactured by C-I-L and then IVI. Who makes them now? Imperial in Canada used to their premium ammo in long range or high velocity or magnum. No velocity?? Is there a dram equiv?
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09-14-2017, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
I saw those as well, but they were always behind glass. They used to be manufactured by C-I-L and then IVI. Who makes them now? Imperial in Canada used to their premium ammo in long range or high velocity or magnum. No velocity?? Is there a dram equiv?
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AFIK the dram equivelant referred to the actual charge weight in smokeless powder compared to an equivalent load with a charge of black powder. I don't recall any velocities ever printed on the old Imperial boxes .. just "high velocity" (IL code) or "heavy" or the like. The Imperial Magnum loads (LX code) just indicated "Max dram equiv" .. whatever that meant.
I have some old Win Super X Mk 5 3" here that do not indicate velocities either... just "max load " I guess it didn't matter, they were all great shotshells.
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09-14-2017, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Salavee
AFIK the dram equivelant referred to the actual charge weight in smokeless powder compared to an equivalent load with a charge of black powder. I don't recall any velocities ever printed on the old Imperial boxes .. just "high velocity" (IL code) or "heavy" or the like. The Imperial Magnum loads (LX code) just indicated "Max dram equiv" .. whatever that meant.
I have some old Win Super X Mk 5 3" here that do not indicate velocities either... just "max load " I guess it didn't matter, they were all great shotshells.
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I do not recall all the numbers but Max used to mean 3 3/4 Dr Eq or 1330 fps with 1 1/4 oz.
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09-14-2017, 10:30 PM
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I dug out a couple of my boxes of Imperial
C-I-L Special Long Range was 3 3/4 DE 1 1/4 IL
iVi Special Long Range was marked Max DE 1 1/4 IL
I got a really old box of paper C-I-L Imperial Magnums 4 DE 1 1/2 LX
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09-15-2017, 08:10 AM
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Can not see who manufacturers those. Box of only 20? 1 1/8 oz. was never the special long range load. I have no reason to think they would not make a good upland load.
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09-15-2017, 09:01 AM
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Since they are called special long range, they are probably 1310 fps.
Using a 12 for upland game, I would prefer a bit lower velocity but I would expect that if Challenger is resurrecting the Imperial brand, it is probably good ammo.
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09-15-2017, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
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Thanks for posting ^^^^^^
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09-15-2017, 12:17 PM
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Looks like a 1-1/8 oz. payload with 3.5 Dram Equivelent loading, which means, ~1310fps.
Which is a heavy field load, but hardly close to the old "Special Long Range" Imperial's of days gone bye. Which were 1-1/4 oz. payloads with a "MAX" Dram Eq.(~4 Dram) loading which means 1330-1380fps
And incase you missed it google the address.
Voila!
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Last edited by Dick284; 09-15-2017 at 12:26 PM.
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09-15-2017, 12:26 PM
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Awesome thanks for the info guys!
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