Jim Shockey Speaks on BC Grizzly Bear Ban

[happytrout23]

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[JDK71]

he is a stand up guy he has the right view on this

[DJS]

Originally Posted by JDK71

he is a stand up guy he has the right view on this

x2

[Stinky Buffalo]

His comments at 8:20 echo what Walking Buffalo has been suggesting will happen. Interesting.

[JDK71]

i don't post hunting pics on any web sites

[elk396]

Originally Posted by JDK71

i don't post hunting pics on any web sites

You are a wise man! Many others aren't getting it though.

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

His comments at 8:20 echo what Walking Buffalo has been suggesting will happen. Interesting.

yes.

[elk396]

Posting every kill on the internet is going to be the major reason hunting is shut down, but hunters aren't learning. The non-hunting majority are seeing this and speaking out. The BC Grizz hunt was shut down because it was 'socially unacceptable'. Not because the species is threatened. Not sure how the natives can changed their kills to make them socially acceptable? Everyone is seeing this stuff posted all over the web. Never used to happen. You make your business everyone else's, they will make their's yours!! Jim Shockey looked whipped on that feed, I think he sees what's coming.

[Sitting Bull]

Originally Posted by elk396

Posting every kill on the internet is going to be the major reason hunting is shut down, but hunters aren't learning. The non-hunting majority are seeing this and speaking out. The BC Grizz hunt was shut down because it was 'socially unacceptable'. Not because the species is threatened. Not sure how the natives can changed their kills to make them socially acceptable? Everyone is seeing this stuff posted all over the web. Never used to happen. You make your business everyone else's, they will make their's yours!! Jim Shockey looked whipped on that feed, I think he sees what's coming.

I like.

[Sitting Bull]

Obviously I am a hunter. I still cannot get used to walking up to a dead animal with gobs of blood out the nostrils or the mouth. For a split moment I think of the animal and hope there was no suffering and I thank God for this beautiful bounty.
This is something the rest of the world does not see from us as hunters, our humanity and our gratefulness for the gift that we have been given.
When we post things for everybody to see, we can't expect them to understand. They see one beautiful majestic animal on the ground with blood all over it. The sight upsets them and off they go. We don't need to give the rest of the world a reason to take away from us a way of life that is pleasing and rewarding to us. We will never convert them to our way of thinking . We have all kinds of hunting forums that we can post on without drawing attention to us. So stop posting on social media! Don't do it. Like Bob Newhart used to say on the psychiatrist skit " STOP, STOP IT"
Just my .02

[Smokinyotes]

I think the problem with Facebook is the majority of people don’t have any privacy settings so any fruit loop can see what they are posting. This is a hunting/fishing/outdoor forum. I think we should be able to post pics on here if we want. Maybe if we each had to pay a $5.00/yr subscription it could be private and eliminate a few trolls and scammers.

[Don_Parsons]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

Obviously I am a hunter. I still cannot get used to walking up to a dead animal with gobs of blood out the nostrils or the mouth. For a split moment I think of the animal and hope there was no suffering and I thank God for this beautiful bounty.
This is something the rest of the world does not see from us as hunters, our humanity and our gratefulness for the gift that we have been given.
When we post things for everybody to see, we can't expect them to understand. They see one beautiful majestic animal on the ground with blood all over it. The sight upsets them and off they go. We don't need to give the rest of the world a reason to take away from us a way of life that is pleasing and rewarding to us. We will never convert them to our way of thinking . We have all kinds of hunting forums that we can post on without drawing attention to us. So stop posting on social media! Don't do it. Like Bob Newhart used to say on the psychiatrist skit " STOP, STOP IT"
Just my .02

^^^ X's 2.

Don

[Bisch]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

Obviously I am a hunter. I still cannot get used to walking up to a dead animal with gobs of blood out the nostrils or the mouth. For a split moment I think of the animal and hope there was no suffering and I thank God for this beautiful bounty.

This is something the rest of the world does not see from us as hunters, our humanity and our gratefulness for the gift that we have been given.

When we post things for everybody to see, we can't expect them to understand. They see one beautiful majestic animal on the ground with blood all over it. The sight upsets them and off they go. We don't need to give the rest of the world a reason to take away from us a way of life that is pleasing and rewarding to us. We will never convert them to our way of thinking . We have all kinds of hunting forums that we can post on without drawing attention to us. So stop posting on social media! Don't do it. Like Bob Newhart used to say on the psychiatrist skit " STOP, STOP IT"

Just my .02

^^^ x2


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[BPost]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

Obviously I am a hunter. I still cannot get used to walking up to a dead animal with gobs of blood out the nostrils or the mouth. For a split moment I think of the animal and hope there was no suffering and I thank God for this beautiful bounty.
This is something the rest of the world does not see from us as hunters, our humanity and our gratefulness for the gift that we have been given.
When we post things for everybody to see, we can't expect them to understand. They see one beautiful majestic animal on the ground with blood all over it. The sight upsets them and off they go. We don't need to give the rest of the world a reason to take away from us a way of life that is pleasing and rewarding to us. We will never convert them to our way of thinking . We have all kinds of hunting forums that we can post on without drawing attention to us. So stop posting on social media! Don't do it. Like Bob Newhart used to say on the psychiatrist skit " STOP, STOP IT"
Just my .02

What about freedom of speech. Hunters don't have rights? If they don't like it don't look. How about if I say I don't like kids and don't want to see those pictures on social media (not true). I am just saying we hunters have rights and we should not have to tip toe around the anti hunters.

[aulrich]

Caving into cultural Marxism will do nothing but accelerate the anti’s


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[Yaha Tinda]

Didn't appreciate him stooping to the anti level by sensationalizing, "baby animals". Nor playing the race card, "color of skin".

Got to be responsible with how you treat your fellow hunters these days, don't want to go setting a precedent that can bite you in the axe, some day down the road. JMHO

[IronNoggin]

"simply vote these lunatics out"

We're working towards that goal as hard as we can...

Thanks Jim, Appreciated!
Nog

[gitrdun]

As much as I like Jim Shockey, I truly believe that our very own huntinstuff would have delivered the message with more authority and clarity.

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by Yaha Tinda

Didn't appreciate him stooping to the anti level by sensationalizing, "baby animals". Nor playing the race card, "color of skin".

Got to be responsible with how you treat your fellow hunters these days, don't want to go setting a precedent that can bite you in the axe, some day down the road. JMHO

I like these guys who call it like it is, we shouldn’t have to sugar coat everything for the risk of offending certain people, but yet they nail us working class to the cross all day long for hunting legally! Like really, where do these clowns think their welfare checks come from? Everyone should be treated equally, no special treatment, no, you get to wear a mask when you buy restricted firearms, no, you get to hunt because of race, no, you get ten million dollars for being a terrorist, all these idiots they offend me with their stupid ideas, they offend me by discriminating against me, but I ain’t gonna cry like them, I’ll keep working, keep fishing, keep hunting, with no special rights or privileges, I will never be silent, and will call it like I see it. Shockey has got it right.

[operator john]

Here is my take and my skin is thick.

My grandfather hunted, my father hunted and I hunt.

My two boys will never hunt because my ex took them off and raised them in the concrete jungle.
They could panhandle on a city street corner and survive, but never in the bush. Sorry got side tracked.

When I was younger (before all this social media stuff) you would have possibly read or heard through the grapevine about the large cougar killed.

Your buddy may have brought you the article from some hunting magazine for you to see and read.

There would be a good chance Mrs. Harper would never had seen it.

In this day of INSTANT relay of information, good or bad it happens.
If we want to feed into the frenzy, then so do it!!

Myself, I will share pictures in person with my hunting family, face-to-face.

I am not interested in getting slammed by the Mrs. Harper's, Miley Cyrus's or any of the other anti hunting cult of this world.

Unfortunately we are becoming the minority.

[Yaha Tinda]

Originally Posted by operator john

Here is my take and my skin is thick.

My grandfather hunted, my father hunted and I hunt.

My two boys will never hunt because my ex took them off and raised them in the concrete jungle.
They could panhandle on a city street corner and survive, but never in the bush. Sorry got side tracked.

When I was younger (before all this social media stuff) you would have possibly read or heard through the grapevine about the large cougar killed.

Your buddy may have brought you the article from some hunting magazine for you to see and read.

There would be a good chance Mrs. Harper would never had seen it.

In this day of INSTANT relay of information, good or bad it happens.
If we want to feed into the frenzy, then so do it!!

Myself, I will share pictures in person with my hunting family, face-to-face.

I am not interested in getting slammed by the Mrs. Harper's, Miley Cyrus's or any of the other anti hunting cult of this world.

Unfortunately we are becoming the minority.

What of Wild TV, LOTS of dead critters there.

[Unregistered user]

Keep posting, the snowflakes will become desensitized.

[270person]

Originally Posted by operator john

I am not interested in getting slammed by the Mrs. Harper's, Miley Cyrus's or any of the other anti hunting cult of this world.

They're probably just compensating for something. Large vaginas possibly.

[lead chucker]

Social media will truly be the death of us all

[michaelmicallef]

It would be a blessing in disguise if Facebook just banned hunting pics altogether. I understand why some me people feel they have the right to post thier hunting pics online what I don't get is why they are willing to risk what they love by doing so.

[chinchaga07]

Originally Posted by michaelmicallef

It would be a blessing in disguise if Facebook just banned hunting pics altogether. I understand why some me people feel they have the right to post thier hunting pics online what I don't get is why they are willing to risk what they love by doing so.

I have seen many a pic of a first time hunter with a doe or a small buck posting their pic of their accomplishment yet no one on the other side of the hunting community is up in arms..perhaps it is because it is a young hunter and they don't want the stigma of bullying. In any event I too have seen some photos and videos that are probably better kept private. Some pics, in my opinion, lack respect for the animal harvested. But at the end of the day the argument is not with the individual posting, it should be with the individual or organization slanting these pics for ammo to reduce or even put an end to hunting. That is what needs to be focused on.

[michaelmicallef]

Originally Posted by chinchaga07

I have seen many a pic of a first time hunter with a doe or a small buck posting their pic of their accomplishment yet no one on the other side of the hunting community is up in arms..perhaps it is because it is a young hunter and they don't want the stigma of bullying. In any event I too have seen some photos and videos that are probably better kept private. Some pics, in my opinion, lack respect for the animal harvested. But at the end of the day the argument is not with the individual posting, it should be with the individual or organization slanting these pics for ammo to reduce or even put an end to hunting. That is what needs to be focused on.

I agree but who is going to defend us. And if social media puts the final nail in the coffin for hunting what good will have come out having a screw you "antis" attitude. Sometimes "duck and cover" and "out of sight out of mind" works too you know. Controlling the urge to post on social media and standing up for our passion would be the best approach. I'm sure that many people that are upset by hunting Pics and are motivated in the fight to eliminate hunting would have been content to go about with there own life instead of messing with ours. Just for example would people all the theft that is occurring if they "the media" and "social media" didn't mention it happening. It doesn't mean it's not happening.
Not saying to be afraid or threatened by people opposed to hunting JUST BE SMARTER.

[Bub]

Originally Posted by chinchaga07

I have seen many a pic of a first time hunter with a doe or a small buck posting their pic of their accomplishment yet no one on the other side of the hunting community is up in arms..perhaps it is because it is a young hunter and they don't want the stigma of bullying. In any event I too have seen some photos and videos that are probably better kept private. Some pics, in my opinion, lack respect for the animal harvested. But at the end of the day the argument is not with the individual posting, it should be with the individual or organization slanting these pics for ammo to reduce or even put an end to hunting. That is what needs to be focused on.

I agree, some pics and videos should not be posted anywhere, or even kept for the private record for that matter, because they are, for the lack of a better word, embarrassing, or should be anyway, to the person who posted them. However, those pics and videos should be slanted by the hunters just like anyone else, in my opinion. At the end of the day, those photos and videos are more of an outlier and they are not what an overwhelming majority of hunters post daily. Those "hunts" are not what anyone wants to see happening in the field, not hunters, not antis, no one, really.

Personally, I do not see a point to posting my hunting photos on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter or whatever. My reasoning is that most of the people who will see them have no desire in seeing such photographs, so why bother. On the other hand, forums like this one are perfectly fine because that is why people are here in the first place, to share experiences, to learn, etc; in other words, people here are actually interested in this same activity and want to read those stories and see those photos.

As for hunting for the head... I think it is wrong, but we are all entitled to our own opinions. And I really like what the guy said a page ago or two calling the "donation" a legal way to dispose of meat (or something along those lines). Yet, I myself hunt for something extra special, and that extra being the rack, until can I afford it, money wise and time wise. Once I get close to or out of bounds of that affordable range, I shoot something to put in the freezer because at the end of the day it is the meat I am after.

[michaelmicallef]

To be honest I was going to post some pics here a couple of times. But I thought what the heck for. It's not like you guys haven't seen an elk or a deer before. But I have sent pics to friends after taking a nice buck or bull.

[Bub]

Have your friends seen a deer or an elk before?

You can also add a word or two with your pics. I would read it.

The thread I enjoyed the most this season was called something like "How is the season going?".

Edit: Maybe I am crazy and it was called something completely different, but I cannot find that thread via search.