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Old 11-17-2018, 09:27 AM
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I know this market is very tricky,trying to save a little bit money,thanks!
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:04 PM
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What year(s) are you looking for? Budget? Lots of good deals on 03-10s on Kijiji I see everyday (albeit most are ticking time bombs).

I almost bought a 2006 F350 King Ranch, fully bulletproofed, 210,000 km for $14,000 couple weeks ago. The 06/07 6.0Ls are good rigs once they have all the updates done and have proof provided of the fact.
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:31 PM
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Brand new!2018 or 2019.
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:10 PM
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Year end is right away. Dealers want 2018 models off the lot and salesmen want that commission right before Christmas. I’d think you’d be hard pressed to not get a good deal on a 2018 anywhere if you know how to negotiate.
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:23 PM
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Year end is right away. Dealers want 2018 models off the lot and salesmen want that commission right before Christmas. I’d think you’d be hard pressed to not get a good deal on a 2018 anywhere if you know how to negotiate.
What's a good deal any more. Loaded F350 MSRP of $80 plus. Even if one could get it down to 70 it's just crazy from my perspective.
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:45 PM
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Heartland Ford in Ft Saskachawan has some not bad deals on there web site. When I bought my 2016, it was listed at $80,000 and I got it for $62,000. That was in Westlock.
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:52 PM
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What's a good deal any more. Loaded F350 MSRP of $80 plus. Even if one could get it down to 70 it's just crazy from my perspective.
Completely relative and all depends what you think is a "good deal". A "loaded" F350 diesel is a vehicle with a helluva lot of complex tech and equipment. Heated (and cooled) leather seats that adjust ten ways, heated and adjustable mirrors, an instrument cluster that can tell you about 30 different things, a 17" centre console LED display, parking sensors, backup camera, trailer sway assist, heated leather wrapped steering wheel, and much, much more. Beyond that, go price out a new 6.7L diesel long block from Ford and see how much one of them things cost.

This isn't the same "loaded" F350 diesel from 1997 when loaded meant you got power windows, locks, tilt, cruise, A/C and maybe heated/power mirrors. I had a 1997 Ford F350 crew cab long bd 4wd diesel that one would consider loaded. The MSRP on it was just a hair below $40,000.

Today, a base model truck has those same options (and more), and interestingly, an XL model Ford F350 diesel (with pw, pl, adjustable mirrors, cruise, tilt) rings in at $60,400 MSRP according to the build and price feature on the Ford website. This is a truck that also rides 100x better than a 97, drives a 100x better than a 97, can pull more than a 97, and has a helluva lot more power than a 97.

According to the BoC inflation calculator, $40,000 in 1997 is $59,000 today, so not too far off.

Have these trucks really gotten more expensive, or do we just expect more of a baseline options, which we rightfully pay for?
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:08 AM
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Completely relative and all depends what you think is a "good deal". A "loaded" F350 diesel is a vehicle with a helluva lot of complex tech and equipment. Heated (and cooled) leather seats that adjust ten ways, heated and adjustable mirrors, an instrument cluster that can tell you about 30 different things, a 17" centre console LED display, parking sensors, backup camera, trailer sway assist, heated leather wrapped steering wheel, and much, much more. Beyond that, go price out a new 6.7L diesel long block from Ford and see how much one of them things cost.



This isn't the same "loaded" F350 diesel from 1997 when loaded meant you got power windows, locks, tilt, cruise, A/C and maybe heated/power mirrors. I had a 1997 Ford F350 crew cab long bd 4wd diesel that one would consider loaded. The MSRP on it was just a hair below $40,000.



Today, a base model truck has those same options (and more), and interestingly, an XL model Ford F350 diesel (with pw, pl, adjustable mirrors, cruise, tilt) rings in at $60,400 MSRP according to the build and price feature on the Ford website. This is a truck that also rides 100x better than a 97, drives a 100x better than a 97, can pull more than a 97, and has a helluva lot more power than a 97.



According to the BoC inflation calculator, $40,000 in 1997 is $59,000 today, so not too far off.



Have these trucks really gotten more expensive, or do we just expect more of a baseline options, which we rightfully pay for?


Excellent perspective.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:05 AM
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Yes but who said that the 1997 price was not already out of whack.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:36 AM
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The '19's are going to be mid-model refreshed, no?? Or is that slated for 2020??

If so - you could either wait for the updated truck (new transmission) or could scoop up a great deal on the "old" 2018's.

Either way I'd wait a bit if that's the case...
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:27 PM
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The '19's are going to be mid-model refreshed, no?? Or is that slated for 2020??

If so - you could either wait for the updated truck (new transmission) or could scoop up a great deal on the "old" 2018's.

Either way I'd wait a bit if that's the case...
Probably 2020. The current body style only came out in 2017, I don't see Ford making big changes in only 2 1/2 years.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:55 PM
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Probably 2020. The current body style only came out in 2017, I don't see Ford making big changes in only 2 1/2 years.
Yeah just double checked - 2020 seems to be the internet consensus for upgrades. Happy shopping!
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Old 11-18-2018, 04:52 PM
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Thanks folks!
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Old 11-19-2018, 08:25 AM
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Surprised how many people will pay $80,000 for a new $30,000 pick me up truck. The only number they looked at was the enormous monthly payment for 84 months still owed long after truck worn out.
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Old 11-19-2018, 09:23 AM
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I'm not sure if you'll find any deals for a while. We started looking in September and the 2018 diesels were scarce then. We wanted a long box dually, which were impossible to find so we ordered a 2019 that finally arrived last week. At work, we are waiting 3-6 months for new Fords and I'm hearing similar stories for Chev/GM fleet orders.
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:53 AM
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I wish 20% off msrp was still realistic. Spent two sessions at a dealer the last two days and gave up.
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:57 AM
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Completely relative and all depends what you think is a "good deal". A "loaded" F350 diesel is a vehicle with a helluva lot of complex tech and equipment. Heated (and cooled) leather seats that adjust ten ways, heated and adjustable mirrors, an instrument cluster that can tell you about 30 different things, a 17" centre console LED display, parking sensors, backup camera, trailer sway assist, heated leather wrapped steering wheel, and much, much more. Beyond that, go price out a new 6.7L diesel long block from Ford and see how much one of them things cost.

This isn't the same "loaded" F350 diesel from 1997 when loaded meant you got power windows, locks, tilt, cruise, A/C and maybe heated/power mirrors. I had a 1997 Ford F350 crew cab long bd 4wd diesel that one would consider loaded. The MSRP on it was just a hair below $40,000.

Today, a base model truck has those same options (and more), and interestingly, an XL model Ford F350 diesel (with pw, pl, adjustable mirrors, cruise, tilt) rings in at $60,400 MSRP according to the build and price feature on the Ford website. This is a truck that also rides 100x better than a 97, drives a 100x better than a 97, can pull more than a 97, and has a helluva lot more power than a 97.

According to the BoC inflation calculator, $40,000 in 1997 is $59,000 today, so not too far off.

Have these trucks really gotten more expensive, or do we just expect more of a baseline options, which we rightfully pay for?
Good point. Purchased a 1998 GMC SLT 1500 in 98 new for $41,000.00. Last half tonne was 2013 F150 Lariat $40,000.00 (15 years same price).
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Old 12-01-2018, 10:13 AM
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My dad purchased a car and got 20% off by dealing with them. I just bought a new vehicle and also saved pretty much exactly 20%. I emailed every dealership and started narrowing down. End of the month is when they want to get every last sale they can to get their numbers up with the manufacturers. I ended up paying way below dealer cost. They made it work by charging me dealer cost and then they wrote me a personal cheque. So at the end of the month they paid me thousands $ to buy a car way below their cost in order to get their #s up to future benefit themselves.

Works for me.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:27 AM
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Not a F350 but I bought a new F150 back in June. I got it 21% lower than msrp. I have no doubt they still made money on the truck. I managed to get it lower than they initially wanted to go by 1, letting them know I have no issue walking out the door without the truck. 2, finding out if they had a very productive sales day. In my case they hadn’t sold a vehicle for a couple days and wanted to move something. 3, playing the game and letting them think I’m discussing it with my wife privately in the office even though we were just sitting there surfing the web on our phones for 30 min. It gave the illusion I wanted that we were struggling over if we should buy it or not. In the end I’m happy with the price I paid which was about 2500$ lower than dealer cost. It was pretty much the exact truck I wanted and had been awesome for 6000 miles. Minus a recall item that they fixed no questions asked.

2018 Screw STX 4x4 3.5 EB max tow, 3.55 locking rear axle, 36 gal tank. (Had it had the 6.5’ bed instead of 5.5’ it would be the exact truck I wanted)
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:20 PM
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Shoot for 20% at least. I picked up a new Ford in the spring as well. 21% off sticker Also on t Ford there’s 3750 built in with 0% finance if you pay cash. I took the 0% and they gave me 2500 of the cash credit
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