I want a FLAT shooter.

[dogslayer403]

Seemed fitting for another 7 page useless fight today lol

[SKSniper]

Originally Posted by dogslayer403

Rising up, back on the street
Did my time, took my chances
Went the distance, now I'm back on my feet
Just a man and his will to survive

So many times it happens too fast
You trade your passion for glory
Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past
You must fight just to keep them alive

It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Rising up to the challenge of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

Face to face, out in the heat
Hanging tough, staying hungry
They stack the odds still we take to the street
For the kill with the skill to survive

It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Rising up to the challenge of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

Rising up, straight to the top
Had the guts, got the glory
Went the distance, now I'm not gonna stop
Just a man and his will to survive

It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Rising up to the challenge of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

The eye of the tiger
The eye of the tiger
The eye of the tiger
The eye of the tiger

From flat shooting to the eye of the tiger all in the same thread....man this site is priceless!

[FreeLantz]

Great. Now I'll be singing Eye Of The Tiger in my head all day long. Thanks for that.

[edmhunter]

Beats signing Bing Crosby's "I'm Dreaming Of A White Christmas" all day long lol

[FreeLantz]

"I'm dreaming...of a 500 yard offhand bulls-eye...."

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by FreeLantz

"I'm dreaming...of a 500 yard offhand bulls-eye...."

Go out and buy yourself a Huskemaw and a decent rifle and practice, then let the dream become reality.

[Smokinyotes]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

Go out and buy yourself a Huskemaw and a decent rifle and practice, then let the dream become reality.

Speaking from experience, I have owned a Huskemaw. I thought the glass wasn't to bad until I sold it and bought my NF. I will shoot smaller groups at longer distances than I ever could with the Huskemaw. I also have a vx3-4.5-14 CDS it works just aS good or better than the Huskemaw.

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Speaking from experience, I have owned a Huskemaw. I thought the glass wasn't to bad until I sold it and bought my NF. I will shoot smaller groups at longer distances than I ever could with the Huskemaw. I also have a vx3-4.5-14 CDS it works just aS good or better than the Huskemaw.

Night force is a great scope for sure, the reason why I went with the Huskemaw is because it was lighter and with my 300 WSM Mountain Ti the whole setup weights under 7 lbs. To me they are both great scopes.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Cowtown guy

Why are we feeding this troll?

The crap that he has posted in numerous threads is pure garbage and argumentative at the best.

Now, did anyone else see the magic bullet post? 4" high at 100 and 7" high at 300? Now that's a flat shooter. Absolutely defies gravity. Lol

Hilarious thread.

i agree i want to think about this for a second

lets be generous and give it 3400 fps looks like a .322 bc too

Muzzle 3400
100 0
200 1
300 2.8

so 2.8 moa drop at 300 yards if your zero is at 100 so if you sighted in 4 moa high you would be 1.2 moa (3.6") above your point of aim at 300 then assuming your rifle shoots a 1 moa group at 100 there is a chance the round could hit up to 6.6" above point of aim at 300.

so it's not really accurate but it "could" be close.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

i agree i want to think about this for a second

lets be generous and give it 3400 fps looks like a .322 bc too

Muzzle 3400
100 0
200 1
300 2.8

so 2.8 moa drop at 300 yards if your zero is at 100 so if you sighted in 4 moa high you would be 1.2 moa (3.6") above your point of aim at 300 then assuming your rifle shoots a 1 moa group at 100 there is a chance the round could hit up to 6.6" above point of aim at 300.

so it's not really accurate but it "could" be close.

My flattest shooting rifles are my 7mm stw rifles. Sighted in 2-3/4" high at 100 yards, the 140gr Accubond launched at 3500fps impact around 1/2" to 1" high at 300 yards. If I raised the point of impact to 4" high at 100 yards, the point of impact at 300 yards would be around 4"to4.5" high. I am unaware of any factory cartridge that would shoot flat enough to provide a point of impact 7" high at 300 yards, when sighted in 4" high at 100 yards.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

My flattest shooting rifles are my 7mm stw rifles. Sighted in 2-3/4" high at 100 yards, the 140gr Accubond launched at 3500fps impact around 1/2" to 1" high at 300 yards. If I raised the point of impact to 4" high at 100 yards, the point of impact at 300 yards would be around 4"to4.5" high. I am unaware of any factory cartridge that would shoot flat enough to provide a point of impact 7" high at 300 yards, when sighted in 4" high at 100 yards.

Maybe a consistant flinch could cause that?

LC

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Maybe a consistant flinch could cause that?

LC

Pretty consistent flinch to be placing the bullet 7" high everytime. Would have to flinch the exact same milli milli milli milli second each time. Groupings would be horrid.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Pretty consistent flinch to be placing the bullet 7" high everytime. Would have to flinch the exact same milli milli milli milli second each time. Groupings would be horrid.

I know . Trying to figure out a reasonable explanation....that's all I had.....

Or invisible ninjas are uppercutting the bullet as it leaves the rifle....

.....that was my second guess....

LC

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Maybe a consistant flinch could cause that?

LC

Is this where paralax can come into play?
Sorry for improper spelling.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by norwestalta

Is this where paralax can come into play?
Sorry for improper spelling.

Nope, Parallax would cause inconsistent groups.
Cat

[Cowtown guy]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I know . Trying to figure out a reasonable explanation....that's all I had.....

Or invisible ninjas are uppercutting the bullet as it leaves the rifle....

.....that was my second guess....

LC

Hahaha. Lol. Uppercutting invisible ninjas. I get a good gaff every day here.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I am unaware of any factory cartridge that would shoot flat enough to provide a point of impact 7" high at 300 yards, when sighted in 4" high at 100 yards.

i'm with you. it might do it once as a flier but it's not going to be consistent

i should check my 220 improved i bet it could do that or come close with the 55's.

[Jims71duster]

Just went through all eight pages in one sitting,,,,,,lmao

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I know . Trying to figure out a reasonable explanation....that's all I had.....

Or invisible ninjas are uppercutting the bullet as it leaves the rifle....

.....that was my second guess....

LC

Must be Invisible ninjas that keep punching me when I go for a pee after a few beers...... I've been shooting high lately.... wife figures the barrels burned out already.

[edmhunter]

I wanted to post this for whatever it is worth, you can most likely find a flatter shoot in gun ,but.............................

Yards / Muzzle Velocity(FPS) Energy(FT-LBS) Drop In Inches(100YD) Zero Drop In Inches(200YD) Zero
MUZ: 2,900 3360 -1.5 -1.5
100: 2716 2947 0 1.6
200: 2539 2576 -3.2 0
300: 2369 2243 -11.8 -7
400: 2206 1944 -26.7 -20.2
500: 2049 1677 -48.6 -40.6
600: 1898 1440 -78.9 -69.2
700: 1756 1232 -118.8 -107.6
800: 1621 1050 -170.1 -157.2

with the right scope it works like this:

at the turret settings:

100 turn the turret to 1, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
200 turn the turret to 2, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
300 turn the turret to 3, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
400 turn the turret to 4, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
500 turn the turret to 5, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
600 turn the turret to 6, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
700 turn the turret to 7, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
800 turn the turret to 8. aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.

Huskemaw turrets work on 25 yard intervals. Does not get simpler then that and with Nosler Trophy Grade Accubond 180 Gr. 300 WSM, the impact good outcomes, but not for the intended target.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

I wanted to post this for whatever it is worth, you can most likely find a flatter shoot in gun ,but.............................

Yards / Muzzle Velocity(FPS) Energy(FT-LBS) Drop In Inches(100YD) Zero Drop In Inches(200YD) Zero
MUZ: 2,900 3360 -1.5 -1.5
100: 2716 2947 0 1.6
200: 2539 2576 -3.2 0
300: 2369 2243 -11.8 -7
400: 2206 1944 -26.7 -20.2
500: 2049 1677 -48.6 -40.6
600: 1898 1440 -78.9 -69.2
700: 1756 1232 -118.8 -107.6
800: 1621 1050 -170.1 -157.2

with the right scope it works like this:

at the turret settings:

100 turn the turret to 1, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
200 turn the turret to 2, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
300 turn the turret to 3, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
400 turn the turret to 4, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
500 turn the turret to 5, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
600 turn the turret to 6, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
700 turn the turret to 7, aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.
800 turn the turret to 8. aim point and shoot, dead on, dead animal.

Huskemaw turrets work on 25 yard intervals. Does not get simpler then that and with Nosler Trophy Grade Accubond 180 Gr. 300 WSM, the impact good outcomes, but not for the intended target.

Looks like all the huskamaw needs is smart bullets that can compensate for wind drift and calculate speed vs distance for giving proper lead on moving game.


I think this is the chink in the armor.

[Smokinyotes]

And..... If you want to shoot a different ammo, load, powder or bullet you have to start all over because your turret will not work. Been there done that. Tried 130 grain factory accubonds in my 6.5-284 with the Huskemaw. Worked pretty well out to 800. Soon as I started hand loading for it, with faster velocities the turret was useless.

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Looks like all the huskamaw needs is smart bullets that can compensate for wind drift and calculate speed vs distance for giving proper lead on moving game.


I think this is the chink in the armor.

I have already said the Huskemaw has a built in Windage Compensation Technology Reticle which is deadly accurate with a wind Metre and I am not suggesting to shoot in hurricane force winds either.

All I know is that it works for me, very well in fact.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

I have already said the Huskemaw has Windage Compensation Technology Reticle which is deadly accurate with a wind Metre and I am not suggesting to shoot in hurricane force winds either.

All I know is that it works for me, very well in fact.

I've shot at distances before, and even compensating for the wind, had impacts 18" off target. Down a cutline, not so bad, wide open gravel pit, much more difficult.

When you're on a lake on a relatively calm day you can see ripples on the water, it can be dead calm where you are, but 50yds away you see ripples, then 200yds away, and more 500yds away.

The point these guys are trying to make is, although on paper the huskamaw system works, real life throws unexpected curve balls. I believe this scope works for you, but it won't every time, it's not absolute that's all.

[edmhunter]

What is absolute? As far as I know only Death and taxes.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

I have already said the Huskemaw has a built in Windage Compensation Technology Reticle which is deadly accurate with a wind Metre and I am not suggesting to shoot in hurricane force winds either.

All I know is that it works for me, very well in fact.

Originally Posted by edmhunter

What is absolute? As far as I know only Death and taxes.

Well, since you asked. If you go back and read your posts you make it sound like all I need is a huskamaw and click click click, dead every time at any range. That's why you're getting roasted.

I'm not getting sucked into this futile dispute, I was just trying to give a little insight from the sidelines.

Merry Christmas to all, happy shooting!

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Well, since you asked. If you go back and read your posts you make it sound like all I need is a huskamaw and click click click, dead every time at any range. That's why you're getting roasted.

I'm not getting sucked into this futile dispute, I was just trying to give a little insight from the sidelines.

Merry Christmas to all, happy shooting!

Looks like one of these, yet again.

I would like to reciprocate Kurt and wish you an excellent Christmas and the best hunting and fishing season or your life in 2015.

[wildside2014]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

By the way boyz and girls, bring your bows as well, here is the last bear I killed with my bow, doubt it if most have even seen a bear that big...........drool away lol Merry Christmas to all

Oh the beauty.

Ok bud. I called you out before, and fortunately now most of AO is is as well. You called me a liar about referencing who has hunted with you and what they think of you. Now maybe you understand?

I offered to put you on national tv to quantify your abilities and you continue to sidestep that offer while publically calling guys out on their abilities.

I will state it right now. You sir are a liar. You practise poor ethics and frankly, you dont know what youre doing man. You have no clue whatsoever. You joined in september and have more posts than guys do after 3 years. You have not spent one day in the field this year. You are a clown.

Get over the napolean complex. You havent fooled one guy on this forum. You are nothing more than a bushwhacking hack that dooms future hunters by exhibiting garbage tendencies in the field. You are AO's version of uncle rico. 50 something years old and still throwing the football hoping to get the call up. Its sad man. Grow a set, show up or shut up

If i offended others with this post i apologize. It fires me up knowing this goof might be mentoring others new to hunting though. Mods, i probably deserve whats coming to me

Ban hammer on wildside commence.....

Cheers fellas

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by wildside2014

Oh the beauty.

Ok bud. I called you out before, and fortunately now most of AO is is as well. You called me a liar about referencing who has hunted with you and what they think of you. Now maybe you understand?

I offered to put you on national tv to quantify your abilities and you continue to sidestep that offer while publically calling guys out on their abilities.

I will state it right now. You sir are a liar. You practise poor ethics and frankly, you dont know what youre doing man. You have no clue whatsoever. You joined in september and have more posts than guys do after 3 years. You have not spent one day in the field this year. You are a clown.

Get over the napolean complex. You havent fooled one guy on this forum. You are nothing more than a bushwhacking hack that dooms future hunters by exhibiting garbage tendencies in the field. You are AO's version of uncle rico. 50 something years old and still throwing the football hoping to get the call up. Its sad man. Grow a set, show up or shut up

If i offended others with this post i apologize. It fires me up knowing this goof might be mentoring others new to hunting though. Mods, i probably deserve whats coming to me

Ban hammer on wildside commence.....

Cheers fellas

These are wise words.

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by wildside2014

Oh the beauty.

Ok bud. I called you out before, and fortunately now most of AO is is as well. You called me a liar about referencing who has hunted with you and what they think of you. Now maybe you understand?

I offered to put you on national tv to quantify your abilities and you continue to sidestep that offer while publically calling guys out on their abilities.

I will state it right now. You sir are a liar. You practise poor ethics and frankly, you dont know what youre doing man. You have no clue whatsoever. You joined in september and have more posts than guys do after 3 years. You have not spent one day in the field this year. You are a clown.

Get over the napolean complex. You havent fooled one guy on this forum. You are nothing more than a bushwhacking hack that dooms future hunters by exhibiting garbage tendencies in the field. You are AO's version of uncle rico. 50 something years old and still throwing the football hoping to get the call up. Its sad man. Grow a set, show up or shut up

If i offended others with this post i apologize. It fires me up knowing this goof might be mentoring others new to hunting though. Mods, i probably deserve whats coming to me

Ban hammer on wildside commence.....

Cheers fellas

Like I responded to you in your unsolicited PM, BM WS!