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I am a Card Carrying member of both a Pro-Gun Lobby group and the PC Party 34 29.82%
I am a Member of the PC Party. 9 7.89%
I am a member of a Pro-gun lobby group. 44 38.60%
I actively participate in the activities of one or both 8 7.02%
I plan to join one or both in the next week but haven't yet. 17 14.91%
I don't see the point in fighting back, we are terminally screwed. 17 14.91%
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:34 AM
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Default So How many have finally Joined a Pro Gun Lobby Group.

With bill C-71, the rumoured plan to ban AR-15s and all handguns by order in council, how many on here have finally decided to actually join a pro gun lobby group. How many have bought a Conservation Party membership and talked to their MP. I see a ton of complaining but I have not seen a real surge in activity. Without dollars and active opposition the idiots lead by the Liberals are just going to keep chipping away. We need to get "Property Rights" enshrined in the Canadian Constitution or we are going to see this nonsense every time we get a Liberal or NDP government.

A membership to CSSA is $35, uninsured, Conservative Party is about $30 too. Step up and join the fight please.

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Old 05-22-2019, 12:08 PM
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Interesting, 40 people read the post, only 7 could even be bothered to vote and 2 of those think we are hooped, no point in fighting back. Never thought I would see the day gun owners became such a complacent bunch.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:42 PM
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My apologies for saying PC party in the poll, it should match what I put in the topic and that is Conservative Party, or to be 100% correct, should be the Conservative Party of Canada. I well know better, have been a member for over 40 years. Heck, have even been my local riding's VP and President. Point remains, you know what I am asking.
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:21 PM
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CCFR, NFA and CPC member. I won’t be renewing my membership with the NFA after the stunt they pulled Suing the CCFR.
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NFA, CPC and CCFR here.
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After watching the members on here jump up and down with glee after Harper was defeated...this poll does not surprise me at all..
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With bill C-71, the rumoured plan to ban AR-15s and all handguns by order in council, how many on here have finally decided to actually join a pro gun lobby group. How many have bought a Conservation Party membership and talked to their MP. I see a ton of complaining but I have not seen a real surge in activity. Without dollars and active opposition the idiots lead by the Liberals are just going to keep chipping away. We need to get "Property Rights" enshrined in the Canadian Constitution or we are going to see this nonsense every time we get a Liberal or NDP government.

A membership to CSSA is $35, uninsured, Conservative Party is about $30 too. Step up and join the fight please.

You can choose more than one answer in the Poll so that we get a fuller picture.
That’s because there is no choice that simply says not me
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Old 05-28-2019, 12:33 AM
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690 views 79 people voted.
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690 views 79 people voted.
Keep in mind that lots of people revisit a thread they are curious about(especially a poll thread) several time over, just to see where it's headed and what might be new,I know I do.
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With bill C-71, the rumoured plan to ban AR-15s and all handguns by order in council, how many on here have finally decided to actually join a pro gun lobby group. How many have bought a Conservation Party membership and talked to their MP. I see a ton of complaining but I have not seen a real surge in activity. Without dollars and active opposition the idiots lead by the Liberals are just going to keep chipping away. We need to get "Property Rights" enshrined in the Canadian Constitution or we are going to see this nonsense every time we get a Liberal or NDP government.
Personally I'm going to wait until we see what happens before I decide where to put my support. There's an awful lot of histrionics and rumours going around the past month and I am concerned we as a community are overreacting to some very thin information. Don't get me wrong, I feel the same fear as anyone else on this subject. I'm pretty close to buying an AR-15 that I'm not sure I really want "just in case" but I don't feel very good about it either. Same feeling as when I started hoarding 22lr a few years back despite my best intentions.

What I don't want to see is our lobby groups go the same way the NRA has down south with the rumour and rhetoric taking over. Does anyone else remember in 2015 when they were all upset about ITAR regulations banning the publishing of reloading data? It was absurd and IMO does more to damage our image than it does to help it. We will do serious damage to our cause if we come off looking like a bunch of screaming idiots.

So with that in mind I'm watching the CSSA and CCFR real close to see how they handle this. CCFR is already looking pretty bad IMO, the language they use in their releases is unprofessional and pretty NRA-ish.
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The NRA does seem to be extreme at times, but on the other hand, if they give an inch, the anti firearms groups will go for a mile.

I am a member of three ranges, and I am a volunteer at one, the more people that we can involve in our sport, and the more organized we appear, the more support we have. What will destroy us, is the firearms owners that don't support each other, and the idiots that shoot up signs and private property, and that leave a mess in the field.
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The NRA does seem to be extreme at times, but on the other hand, if they give an inch, the anti firearms groups will go for a mile.
The problem with that approach is that if you lose then you lose everything. Both sides of the debate in the US could benefit from taking it down a notch or two IMO, I really hope we don’t find ourselves in the same place.
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I purchased a membership in the ccfr a couple months ago, if they start banning and confiscating I don’t want to look back and say I did absolutely nothing about it.
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The problem with that approach is that if you lose then you lose everything. Both sides of the debate in the US could benefit from taking it down a notch or two IMO, I really hope we don’t find ourselves in the same place.
If we lose, we lose everything anyways, only we lose it in stages, not all at once. But in the end, the result is the same.
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I vote : I plan to join one or both in the next week but haven't yet
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Old 05-29-2019, 01:41 PM
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I already have memberships in three, NFA, CCFR and CSSA. I wish they all had the exact same consensus as to how to approach the issues but my thoughts are that three voices are better than two, one or none.
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Other than making your self feel better what change has the Canadian gun lobby made when an opposing party like the liberals have had a majority. If you think about it people that are in the nfa ccfr and cssa likely would have never voted liberal in the first place and they still got a majority. What would being a member of one of these groups do for me more effectively than just my vote in a federal election.
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Other than making your self feel better what change has the Canadian gun lobby made when an opposing party like the liberals have had a majority. If you think about it people that are in the nfa ccfr and cssa likely would have never voted liberal in the first place and they still got a majority. What would being a member of one of these groups do for me more effectively than just my vote in a federal election.
My feelings exactly, the more people that we can recruit into the shooting sports, the more votes we get opposing gun control regulations. So getting people involved in shooting, likely does us more good than all of the three shooting organizations lobbying does.
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Just watched the CCFRAGM2019, and it is the organization to join.
I joined a couple of years ago, provides insurance and you can also add legal defence insurance should you need it, well spent money.
I qouted Elkhunter11 below, as he's a very active member in the shooting sports and on AO. Watch the AGM and see why this is the group to align with. They are being a voice none of the other organizations are, they are professional and organized, and this we all lack. We need to stop hiding as gun owners, as they said in the AGM, 'This approach hasn't worked".
I am not a big believer of the way the NRA operates, but they have been effective. CCFR is no NRA, thats for certain, but we need to put dollars in the hands that have the attention on the Hill.
Voting isn't enough, we need to get a backbone, speak up, and rally gun owners to show numbers prior to elections, because politicians care about votes. If you do nothing other than provide lip service, you will have failed not only yourself, but your children and Grandchildren. Loss of Freedoms is a worthy fight.

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My feelings exactly, the more people that we can recruit into the shooting sports, the more votes we get opposing gun control regulations. So getting people involved in shooting, likely does us more good than all of the three shooting organizations lobbying does.
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