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Originally Posted by tri777
And neither was it the other egomaniac's
first brush with
"i was feeling threatened"
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'Standing his...sidewalk'
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"A couple of months ago, Rick Kelly says he stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot. Much like what happened on Thursday, Drejka walks around the truck checking for decals, then confronts Kelly about why he parked there.
Kelly says a fight escalated and Drejka threatened to shoot him.
“It’s a repeat,” Kelly told the Tampa"
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Or the warning he received for a road rage incident where he pointed a gun at a woman for driving too slow through a school zone.
How about pulling out his gun on a 18 year old who didn’t go through a intersection on a yellow light.
Seems like a stable man who should be allowed to carry a firearm. 
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08-14-2018, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Skoaltender
Or the warning he received for a road rage incident where he pointed a gun at a woman for driving too slow through a school zone.
How about pulling out his gun on a 18 year old who didn’t go through a intersection on a yellow light.
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This is exactly why I am and will forever be against CC. There's always going to be some wannabe Rambo looking for an excuse to shoot someone.
More than once around here actually.
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Originally Posted by tri777
And neither was it the other egomaniac's
first brush with
"i was feeling threatened"
whilst
'Standing his...sidewalk'
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"A couple of months ago, Rick Kelly says he stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot. Much like what happened on Thursday, Drejka walks around the truck checking for decals, then confronts Kelly about why he parked there.
Kelly says a fight escalated and Drejka threatened to shoot him.
“It’s a repeat,” Kelly told the Tampa"
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And?
Just because I figure the guy that pushed the other guy sealed his own fate when he assaulted the shooter doesn't mean I'm condoning the shooters actions, I'm simply saying if he never pushed the guy then the guy wouldn't have had any grounds for a stand your ground clause.
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08-14-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Skoaltender
Or the warning he received for a road rage incident where he pointed a gun at a woman for driving too slow through a school zone.
How about pulling out his gun on a 18 year old who didn’t go through a intersection on a yellow light.
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Yup, agree...this guy was a dude whom CC'd because it emboldened him..he was his own self appointed private parking authority hero.
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08-14-2018, 06:50 PM
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Yup, agree...this guy was a dude whom CC'd because it emboldened him..he was his own self appointed private parking authority hero.
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Even more reports of him having extreme road rage. As much as I’m against this Drejka fella, I’m all for CC. Properly managed and controlled CC that is. In order for CC to work it needs to be minitored and people who have tendencies to lash out in excessive rage need to have their CC rights limited or revoked entirely. In the right system Drejka should have had his right to carry revoked after the numerous times he pulled his firearm on people for minor traffic disagreements.
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08-14-2018, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505
And?
Just because I figure the guy that pushed the other guy sealed his own fate when he assaulted the shooter doesn't mean I'm condoning the shooters actions, I'm simply saying if he never pushed the guy then the guy wouldn't have had any grounds for a stand your ground clause.
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I am ALL for the stanely type cases & back up their reasonings 1million% for shooting such trespassing into personal yard or home like situations.
If handicap parking issues bothered this awful trigger happy defective to what is shown in video & other sources testimonies
>>>Call the Police!!
If if if if if ....if the dude just called those who designed & implemented these handicap bylaws, as this is their department.
His self appointed parking authority righteousness
while CC'n is sickening to me..
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08-14-2018, 07:11 PM
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I’m all for CC..
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Same!!
I wish CC nation wide!!
This handicap parking fool's handgun
Should of been null&void over his failed mental health reveal upon the road rage incident.
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08-14-2018, 07:35 PM
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Good! I shook my head watching this video and couldn’t believe this was acceptable down there. Nothing gets my blood boiling more than the hero of the day looking for trouble and trying to be superman in the process. I would have been shot as well.
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08-14-2018, 07:36 PM
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You teach your kids to kill a person because they shoved you? Buncha mercenaries I guess...
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Mercenaries?are you delirious? I tell you what sit back relax and when the next thread on lawn bowling or basket weaving comes up you will be able to jump right in. 
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08-14-2018, 08:48 PM
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I don't agree that a life should have been lost over this.
That fellow was shoved to the ground with extreme force. The impact of the shove and contact with the ground for anyone, yet alone someone of age, would disorentate them and would feel their life is at risk where it was or not. Your not thinking clearly at this point. He probably didn't even realize the individual was backing up. All that was going through his mind was technique....breath, aim, squeeze. All other senses shut down.
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08-14-2018, 11:20 PM
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I don't agree that a life should have been lost over this.
That fellow was shoved to the ground with extreme force. The impact of the shove and contact with the ground for anyone, yet alone someone of age, would disorentate them and would feel their life is at risk where it was or not. Your not thinking clearly at this point. He probably didn't even realize the individual was backing up. All that was going through his mind was technique....breath, aim, squeeze. All other senses shut down.
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His senses shut down when he walked up to the car and started the process knowing full well he was armed.
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08-15-2018, 07:48 AM
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Everyone always like to forget who initiated the first (bad act) especially when the aggressor loses the confrontation. No violent push to the ground no incident.
I can't believe how many people on here are so quick to jump on the guy defending himself. How do you know the guy never hollered at the guy on the ground to put that gun away or he would shove it up his azz. Was the guy winded, sprained/broke a leg or ankle, banged his head, so many things could have happened after a push like that to make a person feel vulnerable.
"Blame the victim" sounds like a lot of Liberals decided to comment on this one. Like Ken stated NO ONE knows when another persons life feels threatened.
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Maybe if buddy wasn't harassing a woman over a parking spot none of this would have happened. How many of you wouldn't come to the defense of your wife in the same situation?
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We also know the clown that got shot spent a lot of time initiating conflict.
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Conflict was initiated by the shooter going off on a woman over a parking spot. As has been brought up, no one knows what dialogue there was since there isn't any on the recording but the shooter was a known hot head and I doubt he respectfully confronted the woman over the spot. The shooter isn't a victim here either. Tuff guy going after a woman with a weapon on him to back him up should anyone come to her defense.
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08-15-2018, 08:27 AM
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Maybe if buddy wasn't harassing a woman over a parking spot none of this would have happened. How many of you wouldn't come to the defense of your wife in the same situation?
Conflict was initiated by the shooter going off on a woman over a parking spot. As has been brought up, no one knows what dialogue there was since there isn't any on the recording but the shooter was a known hot head and I doubt he respectfully confronted the woman over the spot. The shooter isn't a victim here either. Tuff guy going after a woman with a weapon on him to back him up should anyone come to her defense.
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I guess I should have said he the clown that initiated the violence in this case has a history of violence including domestic abuse....... ya poor innocent thug. He's certainly no hero, he's no knight in shinning armor like some of you guys are trying to paint him. He clearly suckered the guy, knocking him flat on his arse and most likely startled the hell out of the guy.bThese are 2 losers which destiny brought together. The only sad part about this whole thing is that his kids had to see it happen.
I can't for the life of me understand how any of you guys are praising the actions of either guy. They're both idiots who suffered from entitlement. One guy feels because he has a gun he can enforce the law and another who figures he can enforce punishment. Now they're paying for their actions.
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08-15-2018, 08:29 AM
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Maybe if buddy wasn't harassing a woman over a parking spot none of this would have happened. How many of you wouldn't come to the defense of your wife in the same situation?
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I'm sure none of this would have happened if buddy didn't parking in a handicap spot illegally. My wife wouldn't park in a handicap spot without tags and then start arguing with a handicap guy when asked to move the vehicle though....
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08-15-2018, 09:45 AM
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Regardless of the "thugs" history, or the wimp who got pushed.
This debate is so ridiculous... Shooting someone for being pushed should not ever be considered as ok!
This story is as bad as neighbours shooting each other to death over pruning a tree hanging on to your property.
What's next?
Shooting people for kicking your seat at a movie theatre, Because you were scared?
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08-15-2018, 11:53 AM
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Assault with deadly popcorn...
Forsure justified shooting! That old man must have been just shaking in his boots, when that thug tossed those buttery white fluffy soft kernels at him!
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08-15-2018, 01:53 PM
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everyone fears for their life after they shoot someone. It seems to be an excuse that works for many trials.
I know the popcorn would have frightened me as well.
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08-15-2018, 02:18 PM
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These problems are not handled by giving everyone guns. I was 100% against carry in Canada now in am at 85%. That 15% jump was in the last year. Canada is going stupid.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought..... 
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08-15-2018, 02:19 PM
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Regardless of the "thugs" history, or the wimp who got pushed.
This debate is so ridiculous... Shooting someone for being pushed should not ever be considered as ok!
This story is as bad as neighbours shooting each other to death over pruning a tree hanging on to your property.
What's next?
Shooting people for kicking your seat at a movie theatre, Because you were scared?
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The most ridiculous thing are the anti-gun people who constantly defend violent criminals, it is the battle cry of the Liberal.....and we all know to well what they have done to this country in the last three years. They seem to care nothing about victims or justice all they care about is taking guns away from law abiding people and the ones on here sure loving stirring the pot.
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everyone fears for their life after they shoot someone. It seems to be an excuse that works for many trials.
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That is one of the best things you have ever written here. Quote worthy. Well done.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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08-15-2018, 04:05 PM
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The most ridiculous thing are the anti-gun people who constantly defend violent criminals, it is the battle cry of the Liberal.....and we all know to well what they have done to this country in the last three years. They seem to care nothing about victims or justice all they care about is taking guns away from law abiding people and the ones on here sure loving stirring the pot.
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If the pro-gun crowd wants CC to work they need to push and stand up against idiots like this who clearly aren’t sane enough to safely possess a firearm. CC will
Never work when you have guys like this constantly pulling guns on people over everyday events, waiting for his oportunity to finally use it. CC is for protection, not enforcement of power.
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08-15-2018, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Skoaltender
If the pro-gun crowd wants CC to work they need to push and stand up against idiots like this who clearly aren’t sane enough to safely possess a firearm. CC will
Never work when you have guys like this constantly pulling guns on people over everyday events, waiting for his oportunity to finally use it. CC is for protection, not enforcement of power.
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Its a fine line between time to shoot or not. The dead guy is the type of person the stand your ground law was designed to combat.
Do you figure that was a justified attack on the shooter?
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08-15-2018, 04:18 PM
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Its a fine line between time to shoot or not. The dead guy is the type of person the stand your ground law was designed to combat.
Do you figure that was a justified attack on the shooter?
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His past has no relevance in what happened. If people are getting shot and murdered in cold blood over a MINOR confrontation you have a problem.
Hypotheticaly lets say you’re in that situation, you come around the corner and someone is verbally harassing your wife, boyfriend, girlfriend or child. What are you going to do? Walk away? Protect her/him?
Did he over react? YES, he should have confronted the white guy verbally. But he decided to push the man away. How many people do you think get pushed every day in North America? Do they all deserve to be shot and murdered in front of their family? Probably not..
Do you think Drejka was a good candidate to carry a firearm after 4-5 reported events of him pulling guns on people (all of them being African Americans FYI) over extremely minor traffic infractions?
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08-15-2018, 05:18 PM
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And?
Just because I figure the guy that pushed the other guy sealed his own fate when he assaulted the shooter doesn't mean I'm condoning the shooters actions, I'm simply saying if he never pushed the guy then the guy wouldn't have had any grounds for a stand your ground clause.
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Or maybe the shooter shouldn't have been yelling and pointing at his girlfriend over a parking space. Maybe he should have said "ma'am do you know you're in a handicap spot? Please don't park in one in the future". And if she lights up at that, walk away and report the plate.
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His past has no relevance in what happened. If people are getting shot and murdered in cold blood over a MINOR confrontation you have a problem.
Hypotheticaly lets say you’re in that situation, you come around the corner and someone is verbally harassing your wife, boyfriend, girlfriend or child. What are you going to do? Walk away? Protect her/him?
Did he over react? YES, he should have confronted the white guy verbally. But he decided to push the man away. How many people do you think get pushed every day in North America? Do they all deserve to be shot and murdered in front of their family? Probably not..
Do you think Drejka was a good candidate to carry a firearm after 4-5 reported events of him pulling guns on people (all of them being African Americans FYI) over extremely minor traffic infractions?
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I'll ask the question again since it seems you missed it.
Do you think the attack on the shooter was justified?
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08-15-2018, 05:23 PM
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I'll ask the question again since it seems you missed it.
Do you think the attack on the shooter was justified?
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I said he over reacted by pushing the man.
Have you ever pushed anyone? Must not have if you’re still alive.
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08-15-2018, 06:08 PM
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Or maybe the shooter shouldn't have been yelling and pointing at his girlfriend over a parking space. Maybe he should have said "ma'am do you know you're in a handicap spot? Please don't park in one in the future". And if she lights up at that, walk away and report the plate.
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Was there audio on your video because I never heard anything, so I have no idea what he said, how do you know? But lets blame the victim who was violently pushed to the ground because some people will never, no matter what will ever admit to CC being justified.
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08-15-2018, 06:19 PM
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Was there audio on your video because I never heard anything, so I have no idea what he said, how do you know? But lets blame the victim who was violently pushed to the ground because some people will never, no matter what will ever admit to CC being justified.
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If you were pushed down in public would you actually retaliate with shooting someone? Serious question.
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08-15-2018, 06:25 PM
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Was there audio on your video because I never heard anything, so I have no idea what he said, how do you know? But lets blame the victim who was violently pushed to the ground because some people will never, no matter what will ever admit to CC being justified.
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If you think that shooting an unarmed person that is no longer a threat to you is justified then I don’t know what to tell you.
If keeping CC out of the hands of irresponsible individuals is anti gun then sign me up.
This incident further reinforces why I would never support CC for untrained civilians. They simply do not have the training, knowledge or discipline to handle the responsibility.
I hope that the shooter fries.
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