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08-08-2018, 10:27 PM
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How much $ for cummins swap
Does anybody have any idea what a cummins swap would cost in an f250 or excursion????
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08-08-2018, 11:08 PM
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Google Santech Diesel performance or search for him on facebook and ask for Scott. He does them.
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08-09-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Robmcleod82
Does anybody have any idea what a cummins swap would cost in an f250 or excursion????
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It really depends on the year etc. My brother in law is finally done with his. After chasing down every last issue that needs to be addressed it's looking at 13k. 2006 F350 switched over to the same year 5.9.
Don't believe the folks that say it can be done cheaper. It can't.
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08-09-2018, 01:49 PM
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I did an Ins claim on a Ford super duty with the Cummins swap. Owner said it was 10G plus for the swap and that was about 4 yrs ago.
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08-09-2018, 06:20 PM
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Is the (assuming it has one) 6.0 that bad? I know it has a bad rep, but unfxable...for 10-13k?
Don’t know that much about diesels, but I guess of guys are paying to swa in a cummins it must be a big improvement.
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08-09-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyD111
Is the (assuming it has one) 6.0 that bad? I know it has a bad rep, but unfxable...for 10-13k?
Don’t know that much about diesels, but I guess of guys are paying to swa in a cummins it must be a big improvement.
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Eh not really. Fresh studs and get rid of the EGR and you're trouble free mostly, especially 2005+. I have rebuilt mine completely for 5k. Do the math.
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08-09-2018, 06:41 PM
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Most places I read online were in the $12-18k area for a shop to do it, depending on how good of a job you want done, what kind of engine (12v, 24v, CR), how much the donor motor is, etc.
There's a lot of how-to stuff and pre-fab'd parts for doing the swap online. Not saying any joe-blow could do it, but if you've got the space, the tools, the time, and importantly a modicum of mechanical skill (or some buddies with know-how, who also have a lot of time on their hands), it's doable and you'll save a ton on labour.
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08-09-2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jstubbs
Most places I read online were in the $12-18k area for a shop to do it, depending on how good of a job you want done, what kind of engine (12v, 24v, CR), how much the donor motor is, etc.
There's a lot of how-to stuff and pre-fab'd parts for doing the swap online. Not saying any joe-blow could do it, but if you've got the space, the tools, the time, and importantly a modicum of mechanical skill (or some buddies with know-how, who also have a lot of time on their hands), it's doable and you'll save a ton on labour.
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And the 3-4k in programming that has yo ne done. Or it doesn't work for long.
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08-10-2018, 09:55 AM
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As good as and solid the Cummins is and I'm a true blue Ford guy saying that, I am at a loss why guys would put up with the cost and hassles keeping that Cummins working right in a Ford. The shop I was at that did them swaps mentioned there are a lot of bugs to work out and then you need keep getting the check ups/upgrades on the programming.
Half the cost of a swap will really bullet proof and beast up any Ford Diesel. So what is the draw to swap? Do you really gain that much more HP & torque?
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08-10-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sooner
As good as and solid the Cummins is and I'm a true blue Ford guy saying that, I am at a loss why guys would put up with the cost and hassles keeping that Cummins working right in a Ford. The shop I was at that did them swaps mentioned there are a lot of bugs to work out and then you need keep getting the check ups/upgrades on the programming.
Half the cost of a swap will really bullet proof and beast up any Ford Diesel. So what is the draw to swap? Do you really gain that much more HP & torque?
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Your exactly right. Honestly I think guys are obsessed with saying they have a cummins.
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08-10-2018, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sako1
Your exactly right. Honestly I think guys are obsessed with saying they have a cummins.
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I have a Cummins, my other half works for Cummins. Hmmmmmmm Cummins....... 
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08-10-2018, 11:14 AM
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Going to a 12 valve P-pump is the simplist, no computers, two wires(one for fuel solenoid and one for the starter) and you’ve got a motor that can easily and cheaply take major power upgrades, great fuel economy and if looked after properly a 500k to 1M k motor.
I have a buddy who’s spent 10’s of thousands on the diesel in his Excursion who has now decided to go Cummins finally next time it’s down.(next holiday trip most likely  )
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08-10-2018, 05:21 PM
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Don’t fall in love with it. Ford 6.0. Time to move on to anything else
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08-11-2018, 09:24 AM
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My Buddy dropped Cummins with mechanical pump into his salmon fishing boat for around $5000. Bought from wrecker with low milage, he even built own water cooling system. My guess is if you can find older 12 valve with mechanical pump and avoid all the electronics would be fairly low cost upgrade to your Ford.
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08-11-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BUSHRVN
Going to a 12 valve P-pump is the simplist, no computers, two wires(one for fuel solenoid and one for the starter) and you’ve got a motor that can easily and cheaply take major power upgrades, great fuel economy and if looked after properly a 500k to 1M k motor.
I have a buddy who’s spent 10’s of thousands on the diesel in his Excursion who has now decided to go Cummins finally next time it’s down.(next holiday trip most likely ) |
May even be able to find the industrial in 6 as well. Different lifters and valve cover, not much other difference?
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08-11-2018, 10:43 AM
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If you really want a great diesel motor, take a 12 valve cummins and add a Banks turbo, should crank out around 1000lbs of torque. However will probably rip out drive train in a Ford.
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08-11-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
If you really want a great diesel motor, take a 12 valve cummins and add a Banks turbo, should crank out around 1000lbs of torque. However will probably rip out drive train in a Ford.
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Say what, where did you read that lol 
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08-11-2018, 07:47 PM
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12v needs more than an upgraded turbo to go from 400 to 1000 ft lbs of torque.
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08-11-2018, 07:54 PM
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Sorry guys, my son use to have auto/truck magazines back when Dodge Ram first came out in 90's. Read good article how Banks took a Ram250 put their exhaust system and turbo,cranked just around 1000lbs torque at low rpm on the Dyno.
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08-11-2018, 11:46 PM
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12v needs more than an upgraded turbo to go from 400 to 1000 ft lbs of torque.
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08-12-2018, 11:38 AM
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Robbie, stop trying to live your 20yr old dream... lol. If it was me I’d just bullet proof what it has and drive it for a lot less money and a whole lot less headaches!
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08-12-2018, 12:49 PM
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6.0 are easy to fix once you get to know them. Studs, egr delete , good oil , good batteries , injectors are easy to repair and replace, a whole lot less than $13K plus. But then there is the cool factor. THERES an excursion for sale in Lloydminster with a Cummins.
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08-12-2018, 01:02 PM
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Sorry guys just checked some of best results on 5.9 Cummins by Banks was 1300 ft Lbs torque and 730hp.
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08-12-2018, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
Sorry guys just checked some of best results on 5.9 Cummins by Banks was 1300 ft Lbs torque and 730hp.
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Oh, it can be done, just think its going to take more than simply swapping out the turbo.
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08-12-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
Sorry guys just checked some of best results on 5.9 Cummins by Banks was 1300 ft Lbs torque and 730hp.
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Waaaaaay more than a turbo swap
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08-13-2018, 10:28 AM
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Agree guys to get over 1000lbs torque on a 5.9 Banks Engineering have a few other toys in their tool chest. However it does show how the 5.9 Cummins can perform.
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08-13-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
Agree guys to get over 1000lbs torque on a 5.9 Banks Engineering have a few other toys in their tool chest. However it does show how the 5.9 Cummins can perform.
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You can also get 1200 hp but it doesn't mean that it is gonna last, Just look @ some of the tractor pulls if you want to see the big pony's and smoke.
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08-13-2018, 09:52 PM
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Hey Rob,
I've been in an 06 f-350 since 06. It's a daily driver up here in YK. I live off grid and it's never plugged in (espar heater). I just rolled over 300k last week. I wound up going with the bulletproofing back in 2010. Tuned to just over 500 hp and have had zero issues. Nothing wrong with these engines once they are done. Egr negate, arp stud kit, upgraded oil cooler and a chip. Might as well upgrade the ficum once you're in there as well. I think everything total on by bill was right around $8k (all work done by a Ford dealer).
I think this engine came out in 03. There were 250+ upgrades to it by 05.
You should watch a few of this guys vids before you drop $15k+ on a 5.9 swap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o2LGuzl0go
Roll thru a few of his vids when you've got some time to kill.
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08-14-2018, 04:22 PM
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fummins
I have a 2000 ford excursion with a 1999 24valve cummins in it we drove it for a couple years then the tranny started acting up, it’s been sitting for a couple years i will try and get it listed in the buy and sell green with tan leather in good shape body wise and i want to dump it as i don’t have the time to fix it up and get it on the road. Was supper sweet power put a edge juice with display fuel pressure, pyrometer and fass fuel pump.
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