Latitude separation for Shiras Moose vs Canada Moose

[Chukar Hunter]

I am sure someone knows this by heart!

[marky_mark]

Depends who your asking?
Boone and Crockett/ sci/ gsco have different lines

https://www.boone-crockett.org/categ...g-game-records

https://www.slamquest.org/animal-details.php?a=21

[Bushrat]

In real world there is no line but a grey area where both subspecies mix. There are Canada moose on the Shiras side and vice versa. I think the "Shiras" sub species for moose was invented because lower 48 US moose would rarely if ever make the records book without a separate category. Surprised that U.S, Midwest and New England moose haven't also got a separate category. The Alaska/Canada subspecies moose category is another that has a huge grey area, yet they draw a line. One would have to do a DNA test to find a difference and in the grey areas the DNA could vary anywhere from one subspecies to the other and most moose closest to the "line" would be a mixture between the two. Not like there is a moose proof fence dividing the three subspecies.

[raised by wolves]

X2 on the record book nonsense. The subspecies and ranges were invented so when someone shoots a two and a half year old bull, they can say it is a trophy shiras.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by raised by wolves

X2 on the record book nonsense. The subspecies and ranges were invented so when someone shoots a two and a half year old bull, they can say it is a trophy shiras.

Basically, Just like Kodiak and Grizzly, a Boone and Crocket rule thing. One side of the ridge it's a Grizzly, the other it's a Kodiak. Of course, we have our own version, the giant Swan Hills sub species popularized by Al Oeming and since discredited.

Grizz

[Full Curl Earl]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Basically, Just like Kodiak and Grizzly, a Boone and Crocket rule thing. One side of the ridge it's a Grizzly, the other it's a Kodiak. Of course, we have our own version, the giant Swan Hills sub species popularized by Al Oeming and since discredited.

Grizz

There is no Kodiak bear category in B&C or P&Y.
Just Brown, Grizzly and Polar

[marky_mark]

There is definitely a difference is size between the 3 subspecies
Obviously there is no fence that stops them from crossing these imaginary line
Those southern Moose are substantially smaller than a Canadian moose say from north Alberta
But then again, the body size of a moose from wainwright is substantially smaller than a moose from northern Alberta
And a moose from northern Alberta looks like a calf to a moose from the yukon

It’s no different than brown bears and grizzly bears
Genetically they are the same
Yet bears from the peninsula or kodiak make a mature interior grizzly look Like a cub