Scheer to step down

[Scott N]

If Ambrose could be convinced, I think she could beat The Turd. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average Canadian Voter though, I still can't believe Trudeau was re-elected.

[slough shark]

I’d like to see either brad wall or Michelle Remple but I kinda doubt either of them will throw their hats it. My money would be either Peter McKay or Rona Ambrose if either goes for it.

[Mr Flyguy]

I think that Pierre Poilievre would be a good leader. He was a strong presence at the LAVscam hearings.

[riden]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Voters were turned against Scheer, by making him out to be a villain of sorts, which is why I believe that they need a woman for a leader. It will be harder to make a woman out to be a villain, and she should get most of the feminist vote. Ambrose or Rempell, would be excellent choices.

I completely agree.

For whatever reason (ok, Doug Ford didn't help), it seemed every criticism stuck to Scheer like glue. We can blame the media all we want, but we have to learn a lesson here too. The Liberals and the media played on a certain lack of trust many Canadians east of us have for Conservative governments.

Canadians don't want a socially conservative PM and Scheer doesn't come close to being one, IMO. But, he was portrayed as one and it worked extremely well..... and the Liberals will play that game every time they can. Going forward, we need a leader who can't be part of that game and appeals to the 14 million in Ontario.

I agree, we need a strong woman.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by slough shark

I’d like to see either brad wall or Michelle Remple but I kinda doubt either of them will throw their hats it. My money would be either Peter McKay or Rona Ambrose if either goes for it.

Google Brad Wall and the GTH land scandal. He isn't as clean as one would hope. Trudeau's "journalists" would have a fun time spinning stories about that one.

[Rhino81]

Some might laugh but I think Jim treliving would make a great leader. He is outspoken and calls things as he sees them. He is a proven Buisness person and think he would run the country as such. He seems like a no bullsh$t type guy. Just a thought

[riden]

Originally Posted by Rhino81

Some might laugh but I think Jim treliving would make a great leader. He is outspoken and calls things as he sees them. He is a proven Buisness person and think he would run the country as such. He seems like a no bullsh$t type guy. Just a thought

How about anyone but another career politician?

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

Brett Wilson. Too bad he's too busy being wealthy to be interested

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Yes, Brett would make an amazing leader. Sparkle socks would resign before running against a man of Brett's calibre. Too bad he's not interested.

BW

Brett Wilson is no more conservative than Allison Redford was; he is another "social" conservative of convenience. He showed us his true colours when he sided with Nenshi and crew over the theft of the provincial portion of the education tax correction to the citizens of Calgary. He denigrated the taxpayers in his speech at city councils "love-fest", then went on to explain why our money wasn't really our money and we wouldn't know what to do with it anyways.
We don't need any more social conservatives in our federal or provincial parties...we have too many already.
A social conservative is a socialist that has infiltrated the conservative party for the purpose of subverting the party from within and promoting the socialist agenda. Many members of both conservative parties have been completely fooled by their act.

OT- Peter MacKay would be a solid front runner. Provided he could be convinced to work with the traitorous party executive that stabbed him in the back years ago. At least he is a conservative.

[Rhino81]

Originally Posted by riden

How about anyone but another career politician?

An ex rcmp turned successful Buisness man. How could we go wrong

[omega50]

How about bringing this guy back into the UPC fold. Has experience as a leader
Well loved in Alberta by the hunting community

[Macdrizzle]

Originally Posted by Trochu

Where in the world is that coming from? I've read the Sun, CTV, Globe and Mail, that isn't mentioned in any of them. Sounds like fake news to me...

https://globalnews.ca/news/6288286/a...r-resignation/

It was literally the second paragraph. Still developing though.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Voters were turned against Scheer, by making him out to be a villain of sorts, which is why I believe that they need a woman for a leader. It will be harder to make a woman out to be a villain, and she should get most of the feminist vote. Ambrose or Rempell, would be excellent choices.

Yup. When I seen the news the first thing I thought is this.

[Flatlandliver]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Voters were turned against Scheer, by making him out to be a villain of sorts, which is why I believe that they need a woman for a leader. It will be harder to make a woman out to be a villain, and she should get most of the feminist vote. Ambrose or Rempell, would be excellent choices.

Sheer was a villain/crook. What the federal PC’s need is someone who can bring a fractured and dysfunctional group back together. I think your choices are on the right track.

[Sundog57]

1st choice Ambrose
2nd choice MacKay

I was dumbfounded by how many times the Boy Wonder stood around with his chin stuck out in the election and Scheer never took the shot.
On the jet thing? "So it's OK to pollute if you pay someone else to clean up your mess?"
On the SNC thing "So it's OK for your friends to break the law and you to make sure they don't get punished?"
On the helicopter thing "My Daddy doesn't have any friends who can afford to fly me around in their personal $20 million helicopter"

MacKay was right - it was like watching a guy missing a shot on an empty net.
I'm sure that scheer is a smart guy and a really nice man - but apparently no killer instinct

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Macdrizzle

https://globalnews.ca/news/6288286/a...r-resignation/

It was literally the second paragraph. Still developing though.

Maybe you missed what outlets I was reading....

National Post

"Sources told the National Post that the resignation was pushed forward by the revelation Scheer was using money from the Conservative Party to pay for his children’s private school tuition, which was first reported Thursday morning by Global News.

The Conservative Party pushed back on the allegations shortly after Scheer spoke in the House of Commons, saying it was “normal practice” for parties to cover costs associated with relocating the national leader to Ottawa.

“This includes a differential in schooling costs between Regina and Ottawa. All proper procedures were followed and signed off on by the appropriate people,” said Dustin van Vugt, the executive director of the Conservative Party of Canada."

[huntinstuff]

Career politicians are all garbage. Every single one of them. Doesn't matter what party.

We need to start from the ground up for real change to occur. And that is nearly impossible.

Canada was apathetic for too long. It cannot be saved as the world is now.

We will simply continue to recycle the idiots of the past, rebranding them as something new and improved, but in fact we are just allowing our country to weaken and die.

Best case scenario for Canada is we get taken over by someone else, people learn what hardship is, get sick of it, and finally get the guts to revolt. Start afresh in about 50 years

[guywiththemule]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Career politicians are all garbage. Every single one of them. Doesn't matter what party.

We need to start from the ground up for real change to occur. And that is nearly impossible.

Canada was apathetic for too long. It cannot be saved as the world is now.

We will simply continue to recycle the idiots of the past, rebranding them as something new and improved, but in fact we are just allowing our country to weaken and die.

Best case scenario for Canada is we get taken over by someone else, people learn what hardship is, get sick of it, and finally get the guts to revolt. Start afresh in about 50 years

^^^^^ This.

[Etownpaul]

Originally Posted by PaintearthCounty

Peter Mckay is just another Eastern Elitist career politician, who will sell out the west to Quebec and Ontario, I for one am tired of career politicians,

I'm also tired of career doctors performing my surgeries and career mechanics rebuilding my transmissions. They should all be a drama teacher for a few years first so they know how the world actually works. What an illogical argument.

The Cons need someone who can win Ontario and Quebec, plain and simple. Alberta and Sask will vote for whoever they pick as a leader, that's a given. They need to win Ontario and Quebec to form government.

[338Bluff]

Odds are on Harper coming back.

[KegRiver]

When will people learn, if you take an a apple from a basket with even one bad apple in it, chances are the apple you chose is already going bad no matter how good it looks.

We need to stop taking our clues from the media and start thinking for ourselves.
All the best leaders in history were from outside the ruling class.


If you think about it the reason should become clear. You get to the top because you want the income, the power or the public platform, never for the good of the country or the people.

I see only one person in federal politics I would vote for and she has zero chance of winning anything more then a janitorial position.
It could even be said she has no leadership potential. But she is the only politician in Ottawa who has shown even a sliver of integrity.

Honestly I don't see any potential in either the federal or provincial parliaments.

Until we the people start to think for ourselves, the media and the power brokers will continue to feed us horse manure and choose who we get to vote for.

Someone said we need a Donald Trump up here. As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I agree with that statement. We need someone not controlled by big money interests and not beholding to the media.

We need another Ralph Klein.

[270person]

Originally Posted by monsterdon

We need someone like Trump to fix the Conservative Party. Otherwise they will remain an equally corrupt and terrible party.

Trump as a corruption solver? Are you serious?

[Mr Flyguy]

[QUOTE=KegRiver;4073417]When will people learn, if you take an a apple from a basket with even one bad apple in it, chances are the apple you chose is already going bad no matter how good it looks.

We need to stop taking our clues from the media and start thinking for ourselves.
All the best leaders in history were from outside the ruling class.


If you think about it the reason should become clear. You get to the top because you want the income, the power or the public platform, never for the good of the country or the people.

I see only one person in federal politics I would vote for and she has zero chance of winning anything more then a janitorial position.
It could even be said she has no leadership potential. But she is the only politician in Ottawa who has shown even a sliver of integrity.

Honestly I don't see any potential in either the federal or provincial parliaments.

Until we the people start to think for ourselves, the media and the power brokers will continue to feed us horse manure and choose who we get to vote for.

Someone said we need a Donald Trump up here. As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I agree with that statement. We need someone not controlled by big money interests and not beholding to the media.

We need another Ralph Klein.[/QUOTE


You can't be serious.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by KGB

For me in this particular order:
Pierre Boulivere
Rempel
Ambrose

If I can only dream of Stephen Harper to take over the party!

Love your list. #1 & #2 are spot on.
I recently heard Rona speak and think I'd rather have a cardboard cutout of Steven Harper as #3 though.

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Mr Flyguy

You can't be serious.

I’m sure he is serious, and I mirror his sentiments.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by KegRiver

.....We need another Ralph Klein.

King Ralph!

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Career politicians are all garbage. Every single one of them. Doesn't matter what party.

We need to start from the ground up for real change to occur. And that is nearly impossible.

Canada was apathetic for too long. It cannot be saved as the world is now.

We will simply continue to recycle the idiots of the past, rebranding them as something new and improved, but in fact we are just allowing our country to weaken and die.

Best case scenario for Canada is we get taken over by someone else, people learn what hardship is, get sick of it, and finally get the guts to revolt. Start afresh in about 50 years

I think the immigration minister is way ahead of you on this one.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

I think the immigration minister is way ahead of you on this one.

Homegrown Canadians are worse than any immigrants in my opinion

People come here for a better life. That wont be the case soon

[saskbooknut]

Canada pretty much gets the politicians it deserves.
Few are engaged in the process, despite all the chatter.
Most voters are happy to be bought with their own money.
We rarely vote for policies, usually vote someone out when their dogma gets too stale to stomach, or their sense of entitlement trips them up.
That Scheer couldn't defeat a lame duck like Trudeau speaks volumes about the incompetence of the party machinery behind him, in addition to his lack of substance.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Canada pretty much gets the politicians it deserves.
Few are engaged in the process, despite all the chatter.
Most voters are happy to be bought with their own money.
We rarely vote for policies, usually vote someone out when their dogma gets too stale to stomach, or their sense of entitlement trips them up.
That Scheer couldn't defeat a lame duck like Trudeau speaks volumes about the incompetence of the party machinery behind him, in addition to his lack of substance.

Agreed. The PC old boys club had to have seen that result coming.......

[qwert]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Canada pretty much gets the politicians it deserves.
Few are engaged in the process, despite all the chatter.
Most voters are happy to be bought with their own money.
We rarely vote for policies, usually vote someone out when their dogma gets too stale to stomach, or their sense of entitlement trips them up.
That Scheer couldn't defeat a lame duck like Trudeau speaks volumes about the incompetence of the party machinery behind him, in addition to his lack of substance.

IMHO,
Voters are as easily corrupted or manipulated as any politician,
(and both seek maximum personal benefit from taxpayers).

I submit that our Parliaments would be greatly improved, and better represent the population,
if we replaced election with a lottery of Citizens, (with term limits).

Could it be any worse than our present dysfunction and corruption?
It would certainly cost less, and be MUCH less divisive.

Our current Members are hardly an elite group of the best and brightest.

Good Luck, YMMV.