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12-10-2019, 12:08 AM
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Wolves killing dogs. (Facebook link)
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12-10-2019, 12:35 AM
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Next time use more dogs.
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12-10-2019, 12:51 AM
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Not sure why, but wolves will kill dogs when given the opportunity.
Many years ago when living in the Yukon I encountered several incidents
where this happened. I do not know what motivates this behavior but know it
is very common.
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12-10-2019, 01:03 AM
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Apparently there’s been a few incidents in fort Chip this year. Pretty bad for a while. Not sure if it’s on going.
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12-10-2019, 01:24 AM
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That’s some pretty amazing footage. The wolves were pretty systematic as to how they took care of the dogs. From what I’ve read, wolves will kill any dogs, coyotes or wolves in their territory as they perceive them as competition.
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12-10-2019, 06:06 AM
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Absolutely wolves are territorial and will kill anything that they perceive as competition or a threat, even other wolves
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12-10-2019, 06:42 AM
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Mother Nature doesn’t care about anyone’s feelings
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12-10-2019, 07:28 AM
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Bigger dogs
Those dogs are too small to be able to fend off wolves. Some big pyranese may have a chance. Looks like someone needs to kill some wolves in their neighborhood
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12-10-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by glen moa
Next time use more dogs.
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Still bringing toys to a scrap....nature has no room for explanations....eat or be eaten.....kill or be killed.
No so call expert can wrap thier over educated melon around that....
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12-10-2019, 07:35 AM
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That video is all over Facebook , and I have no idea why people think it is bad, sad , terrible unusual or whatever .
Two dogs and how many wolves?
The result was inevitable .
Same as the pics of the die that was torn apart by coyotes ,
It happens every day , yet people lose their minds about it!
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12-10-2019, 08:00 AM
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Wolves kill, coyotes kill, foxes kill, ermine kill... it's called survival of the fittest and most domestics don't have a chance. Nature is cruel & opportunistic. Lots of kitties go missing in Jasper, I watched a coyote at 2am cruising every yard on our street looking for the right opportunity.
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12-10-2019, 08:32 AM
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12-10-2019, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger CS
Not sure why, but wolves will kill dogs when given the opportunity.
Many years ago when living in the Yukon I encountered several incidents
where this happened. I do not know what motivates this behavior but know it
is very common.
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Just more prey. Know some people just outside Whitehorse. Wolves killed a couple of their dogs, right in the dog yard, on their tethers. They fenced it after that.
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12-10-2019, 09:29 AM
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Always lost sled dogs in Ft Mac a few years back to wolves. Coyotes in Edmonton killing dog as well a few days ago.. Mother nature at its best doing what she always does.
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12-10-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
Always lost sled dogs in Ft Mac a few years back to wolves. Coyotes in Edmonton killing dog as well a few days ago.. Mother nature at its best doing what she always does.
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Me and a few other mushers lost dogs to wolves back in the late 70s. They came into the area just north of Thickwood Heights where several teams were kept. I got out of running dogs on the trapline after that. I made it a mission to kill any wolf or coyote after that. There were a lot of dogs taken that year/
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12-10-2019, 11:15 AM
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Wow, Mother nature certainly in full force on that video, the pack kills in a system.
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12-12-2019, 05:05 PM
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If your seeing coyotes even more so wolves there are too many. They are attacking domestic animals, come into neighbourhoods and threaten people.
Complete mismanagement!! More likely too many bleeding hearts..
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12-12-2019, 07:09 PM
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A pack a coyotes attacked and killed a 140 lb "something or another" bear hunting dog in the Ravine here in Edmonton. The pack had torn this poor bugger up and pulled his entrails out on 3 different directions while the poor bugger was still alive and tangled up as the owner was trying to chase away the coyotes until they began to approach her too. Luckily a neighbor at the end house near the ravine came down to help her out.
Crazy how aggressive packs of dogs can be when territorial.
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12-12-2019, 08:22 PM
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Apparently there’s been a few incidents in fort Chip this year. Pretty bad for a while. Not sure if it’s on going.
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Wife and daughter work in fort Chip.
Was bad earlier on. They trapped 3 of the wolves.
She said there is one left, but it isn’t as brave as when they were in a pack.
There were quite a few attacks on dogs earlier on.
Was pretty tough to get them as there really wasn’t any snow earlier on.
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12-12-2019, 08:26 PM
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Just more of the consequences for what anti trapping and anti hunting groups have done. And it will get worse, much worse.
Uncontrolled animal populations will cause problems be it mice or Moose and anything in between. A concept lost to the anti movement.
Take the profit out of trapping, trappers are forced to find other means of support. Prey species proliferate, predators follow suit, and we wind up where we are.
The same thing is happening to hunting and this is compounding the situation.
At some point, rabies and other disease will enter into the fry and some wild populations will crash. To the point of near extinction.
It happened in the early 1950s and it will happen again. It's only a matter of time.
On top of all that we have gun control efforts that will in time compound the issue even further. When gun owners are reduced to where we have no voice at all, the skill needed to effectively use a gun will be lost and guns as tools for control will fade into the misty past.
At that point we will have no means to stop or even slow the progression from healthy animal populations to a boom and bust cycle that will wreck havoc on society beyond anything we can imagine.
Doom and gloom perhaps but it's where we are heading if we continue on the path we are on.
Many today have no concept of what a plague looks like. I lived through at least three Snowshoe hare Plagues. The damage such events can cause is beyond our ability to accurately quantify.
Google Mice Plague and watch the videos. That can happen here with any number of species. Keep in mind, these videos show the animals but very little of the damage they cause.
Today it is wolves tearing apart pets, who knows what it will be down the road or where it will happen? All we know is it will happen.
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12-12-2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheyenne 1
Wife and daughter work in fort Chip.
Was bad earlier on. They trapped 3 of the wolves.
She said there is one left, but it isn’t as brave as when they were in a pack.
There were quite a few attacks on dogs earlier on.
Was pretty tough to get them as there really wasn’t any snow earlier on.
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Wolves here made the mistake of killing my neighbor's Llama's He wiped out that pack. Another pack moved in and killed both of his dogs, one right on the front porch. neighbor wiped that pack out too. Then he declared all out war on wolves in the whole area.
Now he guides wolf hunters from all over the world and makes a good living doing it. They kill a lot of wolves every year. And there are as many wolves around now as there was before they started a war with him.
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12-12-2019, 09:40 PM
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Good video! That is nature for you. That is what our ancestors built up our society to protect us from. Now we are too comfortable such that many people lost sight of what nature is like and believe it is a warm and cuddly place.
Another scary thought is that humans are part of nature and can kill other humans in just the same way as those wolves kill those dogs.
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12-13-2019, 01:01 AM
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Wolves here made the mistake of killing my neighbor's Llama's He wiped out that pack. Another pack moved in and killed both of his dogs, one right on the front porch. neighbor wiped that pack out too. Then he declared all out war on wolves in the whole area.
Now he guides wolf hunters from all over the world and makes a good living doing it. They kill a lot of wolves every year. And there are as many wolves around now as there was before they started a war with him.
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That’s because hunting and trapping has never been effective wolf control. I wholeheartedly support wolf killing in any form, but the survivors get more nocturnal and sneaky and teach their pups. The only thing that has ever worked for wolf control is poison. Even among serious outdoorsmen that gets a cold reception, while the urbanites lose there minds and the greenies go on the warpath. Most people aren’t willing to do what must be done.
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I’d bet my GWP would smoke a wolf toe to toe and possibly even the whole pack!
They are the best dog you know
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12-13-2019, 05:54 PM
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That’s because hunting and trapping has never been effective wolf control. I wholeheartedly support wolf killing in any form, but the survivors get more nocturnal and sneaky and teach their pups. The only thing that has ever worked for wolf control is poison. Even among serious outdoorsmen that gets a cold reception, while the urbanites lose there minds and the greenies go on the warpath. Most people aren’t willing to do what must be done.
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Completely unacceptable (poison).
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Completely unacceptable (poison).
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I agree... Poison is never the right answer. Way too many variables & risks.
BTW, did anyone happen to notice this video (or at least the man who posted it) is from Poland ?
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Completely unacceptable (poison).
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I agree... Poison is never the right answer. Way too many variables & risks.
BTW, did anyone happen to notice this video (or at least the man who posted it) is from Poland ?
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Without it the population won't be controlled!!
Pick your "poison"
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I snared a coyote once that a pack of wolves found and ate.
Snaring wolves can certainly affect the population, at least locally. We (actually my neighbor) cleaned out two packs of cow killers and the wolf numbers are still depressed in that area.
I am 100% in support of poisoning wolves if it's done in a controlled manner. Similar to snaring, you may kill some non target animals but for the greater good, it's worth the risk.
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dead wolf
My brother and I went hunting with a dog. Found a dead wolf. The dog ran, sniffed, licked everything near the body. After a while, the dog became ill. It’s good that the vet noticed the problem on time
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12-17-2019, 02:30 PM
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That’s because hunting and trapping has never been effective wolf control. I wholeheartedly support wolf killing in any form, but the survivors get more nocturnal and sneaky and teach their pups. The only thing that has ever worked for wolf control is poison. Even among serious outdoorsmen that gets a cold reception, while the urbanites lose there minds and the greenies go on the warpath. Most people aren’t willing to do what must be done.
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Helicopter gunning is fairly effective also.
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