New lakes open for Walleye

[Raptor Boy]

http://globalnews.ca/news/3351885/pr...mpaign_id=A100

Hope this link works

[TBark]

Ya just seen that,
Doesn't affect my plans tho, don't fish in those newly opened lakes.

TBark

[mapleleafman3]

Sure glad they informed everyone so they can close them next year due to over fishing.

[nube]

Also from what I read it is a draw so there goes a few bucks to apply plus the one tag is $11 if I read things right.... May as well go to Sobeys for my fish lol

[idaman]

Originally Posted by nube

Also from what I read it is a draw so there goes a few bucks to apply plus the one tag is $11 if I read things right.... May as well go to Sobeys for my fish lol

So would you rather a daily limit and then the lakes are fished out of walleye in record time??
Plenty of lakes a guy can keep one without tags as well.

[13mileranch]

Originally Posted by nube

Also from what I read it is a draw so there goes a few bucks to apply plus the one tag is $11 if I read things right.... May as well go to Sobeys for my fish lol

In our household fishing is actually about getting out, the challenge of angling and enjoying the outdoors.

I feel sorry for people like you that seem to think fish and wildlife have to be akin to a business transaction and must make total fiscal gain before you participate.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 13mileranch

In our household fishing is actually about getting out, the challenge of angling and enjoying the outdoors.

I feel sorry for people like you that seem to think fish and wildlife have to be akin to a business transaction and must make total fiscal gain before you participate.

Holy crap! Someone urinate in your coffee? Nube was obviously making a tongue in cheek statement. That is typically what LOL means.

If you click on some of the links to his threads you will see that he spends tens of thousands of dollars going all over the world so he can challenge himself and enjoy the great outdoors.

No need for you to feel sorry for him.

[13mileranch]

No need for you to feel sorry for him.[/QUOTE]

I really do. LOL

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by 13mileranch

In our household fishing is actually about getting out, the challenge of angling and enjoying the outdoors.

I feel sorry for people like you that seem to think fish and wildlife have to be akin to a business transaction and must make total fiscal gain before you participate.

You must have never enjoyed a shore lunch of fresh fish like walleye and perch with your family. We as anglers have given the government more than enough money to stock every lake in Alberta on a yearly basis with fish other than trout, for retention. I feel sorry for people that get sucked into this, " stock a lake with millions of walleye" then close it to retention idea !! There is more to this than getting out and having fun with our families. Put the $ from our lisence fees directly back into the stocking and maintaining of lakes and regs and our fishery would be just fine.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Habfan

You must have never enjoyed a shore lunch of fresh fish like walleye and perch with your family. We as anglers have given the government more than enough money to stock every lake in Alberta on a yearly basis with fish other than trout, for retention. I feel sorry for people that get sucked into this, " stock a lake with millions of walleye" then close it to retention idea !! There is more to this than getting out and having fun with our families. Put the $ from our lisence fees directly back into the stocking and maintaining of lakes and regs and our fishery would be just fine.

Bang on!

[Blastoff]

Exactly no need to feed the gov't for tags, I think we all give them enough cash. Shore lunch for me with my one burner stove and rubbing two sticks to fire it up or I will use my mirror to ignite it which ever one works the fastest that day.

[panko]

Trial balloon to see how well it goes over .
I will say in the future all lakes will be this way just a money grab,I hope nobody buys these tags .
We need to send message to these pecker heads.

[idaman]

Originally Posted by Blastoff

Exactly no need to feed the gov't for tags, I think we all give them enough cash. Shore lunch for me with my one burner stove and rubbing two sticks to fire it up or I will use my mirror to ignite it which ever one works the fastest that day.

I think the tags are a great system. We as Albertans have already shown we are greedy when it comes to keeping fish and destroyed the resource once so until the mentality of people needing to keep every fish as soon as its legal to do so stops, the tags are the best way of managing our walleye fisheries.

[dennisb]

I cant wait, I can fit 8 in my boat...my self, both of my kids and all their friends, all under 16 of course...the livewell will be over flowing

[sns2]

Originally Posted by idaman

I think the tags are a great system. We as Albertans have already shown we are greedy when it comes to keeping fish and destroyed the resource once so until the mentality of people needing to keep every fish as soon as its legal to do so stops, the tags are the best way of managing our walleye fisheries.

I don't know that we destroyed it as much as people just took what they were allowed by law.

One of the things that is often failed to be taken into consideration is that the population of the province has more than doubled since many of us started fishing decades ago.

I am not saying that we've had good management, but it is not as simple as many want to make it out to be.

[Battery]

Walleye have ruined too many lakes. Pine Lake used to be an amazing Perch fishery, now it's just Walleye. Glad to see them opening them in some places, it's about time.

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by 13mileranch

In our household fishing is actually about getting out, the challenge of angling and enjoying the outdoors.

I feel sorry for people like you that seem to think fish and wildlife have to be akin to a business transaction and must make total fiscal gain before you participate.

Meh, I wouldn't pay 11 bucks just to keep one fish either. It has nothing to do with a business transaction, I'd just rather let the fish go for free, or go to a different lake and keep a fish there.

[kouleerunner]

Originally Posted by Bushleague

Meh, I wouldn't pay 11 bucks just to keep one fish either. It has nothing to do with a business transaction, I'd just rather let the fish go for free, or go to a different lake and keep a fish there.

X2

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by idaman

I think the tags are a great system. We as Albertans have already shown we are greedy when it comes to keeping fish and destroyed the resource once so until the mentality of people needing to keep every fish as soon as its legal to do so stops, the tags are the best way of managing our walleye fisheries.

I disagree, I think that in many parts of the province there are enough walleye lakes that have recovered to the point of overpoplulation. If, instead of opening just a few lakes to tags, they opened all of these lakes to a one fish limit, I think the lakes would probably be Ok with the pressure spread out. At the very least I doubt that the fisheries would be damaged too badly in just a couple seasons, and I think that even if the limit had to be dropped again after a few years that the quality of the fishing in these lakes could be improved.

To offset the tendency for lakes close to large cities to get overfished, I would open lakes further away to a higher catch limit. Once again, with careful monitoring to ensure over fishing is detected before a collapse. Spread out over all of our healthy walleye fisheries, I think this could be sustained.

For the life of me I cant understand why the province seems hell bent on creating these high numbers fisheries on lakes and species that they want to remain C&R. IMO C&R would be better used to create trophy fisheries, rather than lakes full of scrawny walleye.

It may or may not work long term, but I think it would be worth a try. Re-creating the Pidgeon Lake experiment all over the province is a mistake IMO.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by Bushleague

If, instead of opening just a few lakes to tags, they opened all of these lakes to a one fish limit, I think the lakes would probably be Ok with the pressure spread out.

I am in favour of tags, and prefer them to a "open one fish limit" for two reasons related to your point ....

A one fish limit is a poor way of controlling the total harvest which makes it more difficult to manage the watershed. A well defined total harvest, in the form of a defined number of tags, allows as close to complete control of total harvest as possible.

and

A one fish limit is also not great if I want to have a meal of walleye for my family (as I'm the only one who regularly fishes). I can't take home one walleye, fillet it and expect to have everyone share a meal. A 2 or 3 tag system allows me to do that.

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by EZM

I am in favour of tags, and prefer them to a "open one fish limit" for two reasons related to your point ....

A one fish limit is a poor way of controlling the total harvest which makes it more difficult to manage the watershed. A well defined total harvest, in the form of a defined number of tags, allows as close to complete control of total harvest as possible.

and

A one fish limit is also not great if I want to have a meal of walleye for my family (as I'm the only one who regularly fishes). I can't take home one walleye, fillet it and expect to have everyone share a meal. A 2 or 3 tag system allows me to do that.

To me, given the state of many of these lakes as far as I can see, the tags would have been a good idea 5-10 years ago, depending on the lake. And they may again be a good option once some lakes are culled a bit. But IMO I think a one fish limit would take more than a few seasons to get many lakes back to some semblance of a healthy balance.

Like I said, the tag policy has been used on other lakes for awhile now and I'm not a huge fan of the results so far. If we want different results we need to try a different strategy.

[Kim473]

Originally Posted by sns2

Holy crap! Someone urinate in your coffee? Nube was obviously making a tongue in cheek statement. That is typically what LOL means.

If you click on some of the links to his threads you will see that he spends tens of thousands of dollars going all over the world so he can challenge himself and enjoy the great outdoors.

No need for you to feel sorry for him.

And all this time I thought it meant, " Low On Liquor " Thanks for schooling me.