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"Jet Fighters of the Great White North"
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This thread is for all the Canadian Air Force 'Buffs' who lurk here. Believe it or not, I found the article linked below while doing some stock research on Magellan Aerospace Corp. 
This RCAF history article was posted back in '14, but it's still relevant today: https://tacairnet.com/2014/07/01/jet...t-white-north/
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Nice
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Nice link!
My favourite (F101):
Recalling CFB Chatham NB 
F18 replaced three aircraft types (F101/F5/F104).
The Missile With a Man In It (F104)
Recalling CFB Baden-Soellingen
The "disposable" fighter (Northrop F5), the least of the least:
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Completely forgot about Voodoos and Sabers. (pretty sure I built a model of a Saber in my youth)
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While in the RCAF, a family friend flew the Canadair F-86 Sabre. He was selected to fly for the "Golden Hawks", the aerobatic team preceding the "Snowbirds". In one of their performances at the Kelowna Regatta in the mid 60's, he screamed his Sabre under the draw bridge portion of the bridge over Okanagan Lake.(The bridge was up.) He told us that the Sabre was his favorite plane to fly of any that in his career he had flown.
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Great thread, love the smoke birds
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02-23-2017, 06:30 PM
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CF-104 Starfighter ... the other name
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CF-104 Starfighter (a.k.a. F-104 'Widowmaker')
The Germans had it the worst ... http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/News/C...ys-widow-maker
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Amazing.... We used to have a "real" Air Force. Then we got Trudeau the elder. Poor trade me thinks
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02-23-2017, 07:48 PM
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Hohenzollern Castle was a popular backdrop for RCAF aircraft in Germany.
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I was working in Inuvik NWT. There were 6-cf18 at the hangar. There were 20 men per team (jet). Was pretty cool at time. 
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Worked on them all except for the vamp and banshee. Headed up a crew in 86 to show the Turks the differences between German 104's and ours. Was on the crew that put a Golden Hawk on a pedestal in Chatham. Worked on Sabres until phase out and then onto Voodoos. As Opa said pilots loved the Sabre. Also first 104's (not Canadian) had ejection seats that fired out the bottom. Took my trades training on Harvards and CF100. Last base was Moose Jaw so throw Tudors in too. Even had a little heavy with Daks and C119. Choppers like Twin Huey and Labs. We had a large and varied inventory in the late 50's and early 60's. Thanks for the memories.
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Even though Canadian military doctrine always required 2 engines I could never figure out (other than that) why the F-8 crusader or the twin engine F-4 phantom where not procured in that era. 
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Great thread guys, love any old CANADIAN stuff. Brings back a lot of memories for a kid who grew up on the prairies during the Cold War. Avro Arrow still rocks.
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Rocket with wings, wide turns, over shoot the runway in Baden, swoop wide around over France to recover for another attempt....
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1950,s technology , still being used to this day,
another debacle for Canada ,
Why do we have such morons for leaders ,
ahhh the Right Honourable DefinDebacle
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CF-104 Starfighter (a.k.a. F-104 'Widowmaker') |
Didn't they also call them, "The Happy Hooker" (No visible means of support.)
I know the Chinook was called that but I heard it used for a 104 as well.
Maybe a one person only thing.
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I am a fan of aircraft but I lean more towards the bush planes.
There is nothing I like better then low and slow.
I've done a fair bit of air travel, working forestry (fire fighting and regen surveys) and I worked for a company that owned aircraft and flew in one of their aircraft a few times.
I even took flight training, till I ran out of money, and got married.
My experience with military aircraft is limited to just one aircraft. The Buffalo.
I rode in one and unloaded it a few times when it was hauling supplies into a fire I was working on up at Yates back in the 1960s.
Awesome aircraft. Dang thing can go up like an elevator.
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1950,s technology , still being used to this day,
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A LOT of technology from that beauty is still used today. More than some people can comprehend.
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A LOT of technology from that beauty is still used today. More than some people can comprehend.
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I too am a fan of the Arrow and proud of the Canadians that designed and built it.
One thing a lot of armature aviation buffs forget is that the Arrow was a purpose built aircraft, an interceptor. It wasn't a fighter, it wasn't an attack aircraft and it wasn't designed as a bomber. It was purpose built to intercept Russian bombers. Period. With the advent of ICBM's it was out of date before it went into final production.
Sad though we didn't channel all that design talent into the manufacture of a fighter or bomber etc instead of loosing the majority of it to the US and NASA in particular. Today every aircraft our air force needs has to come from another country, usually the US. Under Liberal leadership, starting with Trudeau the Elder, Canada is sadly approaching third world status, no longer self sufficient, but buying the majority of our goods from offshore. Trump doesn't have many good ideas, but bringing the jobs and pride back home is a great idea!
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Worked on them all except for the vamp and banshee. Headed up a crew in 86 to show the Turks the differences between German 104's and ours. Was on the crew that put a Golden Hawk on a pedestal in Chatham. Worked on Sabres until phase out and then onto Voodoos. As Opa said pilots loved the Sabre. Also first 104's (not Canadian) had ejection seats that fired out the bottom. Took my trades training on Harvards and CF100. Last base was Moose Jaw so throw Tudors in too. Even had a little heavy with Daks and C119. Choppers like Twin Huey and Labs. We had a large and varied inventory in the late 50's and early 60's. Thanks for the memories.
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Vampire for you Lorne...
https://www.facebook.com/RCAF.ARC/vi...4158566821237/
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Nice link!
My favourite (F101):
Recalling CFB Chatham NB
F18 replaced three aircraft types (F101/F5/F104).
The Missile With a Man In It (F104)
Recalling CFB Baden-Soellingen
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Now that brings back memories the tutors in the background at Moosejaw.
Transient servicing would have taken care of the voodoo on its way back or from Comox.
Good times!
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Got this print in my man cave. "Canadian forces coldshaft operation in progress 416 lynx squadron cf101 voodoos intercept soviet bear d. East coast Canada circa 1979" by graham wragg
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Got this print in my man cave. "Canadian forces coldshaft operation in progress 416 lynx squadron cf101 voodoos intercept soviet bear d. East coast Canada circa 1979" by graham wragg
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That's a nice Topolev , do you think it is headed for Ft Macvapour ??
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Got this print in my man cave. "Canadian forces coldshaft operation in progress 416 lynx squadron cf101 voodoos intercept soviet bear d. East coast Canada circa 1979" by graham wragg
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I was on a couple Cold shaft tours in Goose Bay in the 69-71 time frame over New Year. Christmas and New Year were one week duration vice two weeks the rest of the year. Played fast ball for Base team in summer. When I moved here in 93 my neighbor across the street was an ex Vamp pilot, Randy. He went on to fly the Sabre and was one of the pilots on the first delivery to Europe. At the time he had about 90 hours on Sabres. He had lots of stories on jinking along the border and playing with the Russians. Our Sabres with Orenda engines (made in Canada) were pretty hot machines at the time. Chuck Yeager actually mentioned in one of his books how good our guys were.
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The Legion at Innisfail (Branch # 104) has a 104 mounted in a straight up position out front.
I have a photo somewhere in my stuff of a Bomarc missile in erection mode from 446 Surface to Air Missile (SAM) Squadron, North Bay, that shows both the RCAF Roundel and the USAF Star and bars insignia on it. One being on the wings and the other on the fuselage.
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Originally Posted by Jack Hardin
The Legion at Innisfail (Branch # 104) has a 104 mounted in a straight up position out front.
I have a photo somewhere in my stuff of a Bomarc missile in erection mode from 446 Surface to Air Missile (SAM) Squadron, North Bay, that shows both the RCAF Roundel and the USAF Star and bars insignia on it. One being on the wings and the other on the fuselage.
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My brother spent several years in North Bay On, working for RCAF in the NORAD complex about 600 feet beneath in the granite rock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hardin
The Legion at Innisfail (Branch # 104) has a 104 mounted in a straight up position out front.
I have a photo somewhere in my stuff of a Bomarc missile in erection mode from 446 Surface to Air Missile (SAM) Squadron, North Bay, that shows both the RCAF Roundel and the USAF Star and bars insignia on it. One being on the wings and the other on the fuselage.
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CF-5 on display at the Calgary Military Museums.
Cool looking jet, but it was lacking in performance and capabilities.
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
I am a fan of aircraft but I lean more towards the bush planes.
There is nothing I like better then low and slow.
I've done a fair bit of air travel, working forestry (fire fighting and regen surveys) and I worked for a company that owned aircraft and flew in one of their aircraft a few times.
I even took flight training, till I ran out of money, and got married.
My experience with military aircraft is limited to just one aircraft. The Buffalo.
I rode in one and unloaded it a few times when it was hauling supplies into a fire I was working on up at Yates back in the 1960s.
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I'm an old fan of the Buffalo too, but it's being replaced by the Airbus C-295; http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canad...c295-1.3194690
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