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Old 02-15-2017, 01:49 PM
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Hello everyone, first off this email is not intended to offend ( or try to) anyone

in my opinion its time to restrict hunting rights.

Hunting big game in Alberta should be the same for all races.

Guide lines
-draw system for "everyone"
-no hunting out of season
-price of tags etc same for "everyone"

Hunting regulations should be the same no matter what race you are.

I am tired if seeing the destruction of our game in Alberta by
-over hunting
-to many tags handed out
-poachers
-and special hunting privileges where there should not be.

Time to simply change the rules so they are fair to everyone.

our big game animals need to reproduce and not be taken down when they are pregnant.

to me there is no longer "well its our right" " no its not"

time to protect one of the greatest rights we should all have.. " but it is also time to simply make it fair for all"




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Old 02-15-2017, 01:52 PM
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Is this POV based on feelings or science?
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:05 PM
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our big game animals need to reproduce and not be taken down when they are pregnant
Elk are born in May/Jun following a gestation period of 8 1/2 months. So no cow elk hunting from Sep onward? Or is it just a matter of more pregnant vs less pregnant? A dead cow cannot reproduce if it's.............dead.

Wondering what you are advocating here?
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:06 PM
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I agree 100% with the original post in the sense that there should be the same set of rules for everyone. I too believe the time of certain rights need to be challenged and that for everyone to live in harmony all should abide by the same set of rules.
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:11 PM
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Default is this not essentially entitlement

If I had special privileges why on earth would I give them up to you. Should you not just stop competing and complaining about what I have that you feel entitled to?? Study basic common law principles, "any right once granted can never be extinguished".
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:41 PM
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You are bitching about an issue covered by a Federal Goverment mandate, not a Provincial Government mandate.
You are bitching about a subject few politicians(successful ones at least) have any stomach or balls to even think about let alone voice publically about. It's in a nutshell a political no fly zone.

You've got multi national conferences and UN mandates about aboriginal rights.

You're like a salmon swimming against the current.

Let's focus on maybe changing the mindset of non aboriginals about where wildlife fall in the order of importance, let's change the it's only a (insert animal species here) attitude. Let's see wildlife abuse get the same attention and wide spread scorn that impared driving does.


The other subject you're on about is, well it never ends well around these parts.

Wanna go off about rights enshrined before my Gran Dad's days, maybe there's another forum better suited for you.
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If I had special privileges why on earth would I give them up to you. Should you not just stop competing and complaining about what I have that you feel entitled to?? Study basic common law principles, "any right once granted can never be extinguished".


If elk became endangered we are allowed to continue hunting them into extinction? Currently its my right to buy an elk tag. Yikes.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:05 PM
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I'm not native but why should they change anything for you or anyone else.

That's my opinion just saying.
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I agree 100% with the original post in the sense that there should be the same set of rules for everyone. I too believe the time of certain rights need to be challenged and that for everyone to live in harmony all should abide by the same set of rules.
I'm a left-wing voter and I believe this too. If there was a referendum, I'd vote that everyone should be treated equally by all levels of government.

Until that happens, though, I'm still taking advantage of the treaty rights. I only hunt for food for my family (1-2 big game animals a year), and barely take advantage of NIHB health benefits since I already have good employer benefits. (NIHB pays for the 20% or so that work doesn't pay for.)

Call me hypocritical, but I'll use any benefits the world gives me. That said, I won't *abuse* them like a small percentage of other people do; I'll use them to the spirit of the treaty that gave them to me.

Oh, and the no GST thing is a myth for the most part. It's true only for goods and services sold on reserves, but keep in mind many reserves have their own sales taxes. I don't live on reserve, so I pay income tax and sales tax just like everyone else.
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Is this POV based on feelings or science?
like I stated my opinion
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Default I am just playing devils advocate

But your opinion on what should be or could be is not "right" based it is merely an opinion. It has been expressed many times and always leads to the same conclusion the thread is closed. It has been pointed out on many threads that the rights based hunting is has and will be allowed until no one else can hunt and beyond. Those enjoying the privilege of hunting do not get to dictate equality terms to those with a right to hunt.
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Hello everyone, first off this email is not intended to offend ( or try to) anyone

in my opinion its time to restrict hunting rights.

Hunting big game in Alberta should be the same for all races.

Guide lines
-draw system for "everyone"
-no hunting out of season
-price of tags etc same for "everyone"

Hunting regulations should be the same no matter what race you are.

I am tired if seeing the destruction of our game in Alberta by
-over hunting
-to many tags handed out
-poachers
-and special hunting privileges where there should not be.

Time to simply change the rules so they are fair to everyone.

our big game animals need to reproduce and not be taken down when they are pregnant.

to me there is no longer "well its our right" " no its not"

time to protect one of the greatest rights we should all have.. " but it is also time to simply make it fair for all"




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Hit the search button and you'd find your post is not needed and is redundant. Due to the fact that there is 20 shut down threads all saying what you did. You have over three hundred posts and must just be tired of everything going so smooth here the last few weeks. Its called trolling
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