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Old 08-05-2020, 12:33 PM
brewster29 brewster29 is offline
 
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Smile Need Quickload help

I am hoping someone here can run QL for my 280 Rem.

I plan to use RL 23 and/or RL 26, CCI 200, rem brass, Barnes 145 LRX.
My rifle has a 24” barrel.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bruce
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:00 PM
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I think they need case capacity also
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:32 PM
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I think they need case capacity also
Yes, salt works as well as water.
Cartridge OAL and distance from lands would help also...
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:04 PM
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Email alliant they will give you recommendations for loads with that combo. You need a lot more data for quick load most guys that run it may not want to give out the info for safety reasons.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:06 PM
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This is for RL23
Code:
Cartridge          : .280 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 145, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30282
Useable Case Capaci: 58.029 grain H2O = 3.768 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-23

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    47.10   2455    1940   31749   9068     95.5    1.465
-09.0   91    47.62   2482    1984   32692   9180     96.0    1.448
-08.0   92    48.14   2510    2028   33667   9289     96.5    1.431
-07.0   93    48.67   2538    2073   34675   9395     96.9    1.415
-06.0   94    49.19   2565    2119   35718   9496     97.3    1.399
-05.0   95    49.71   2593    2165   36794   9595     97.7    1.383
-04.0   96    50.24   2621    2211   37909   9689     98.0    1.367
-03.0   97    50.76   2648    2258   39063   9779     98.3    1.351
-02.0   98    51.28   2676    2305   40256   9865     98.6    1.335
-01.0   99    51.81   2703    2353   41489   9946     98.9    1.320
+00.0  100    52.33   2731    2401   42767  10024     99.1    1.304
+01.0  101    52.85   2759    2450   44088  10096     99.3    1.289
+02.0  102    53.38   2786    2499   45458  10164     99.5    1.274
+03.0  103    53.90   2814    2549   46876  10227     99.7    1.259
+04.0  104    54.42   2841    2599   48345  10285     99.8    1.244
+05.0  105    54.95   2868    2649   49868  10338     99.9    1.229

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    52.33   2875    2662   52510   9675    100.0    1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    52.33   2531    2062   34658   9692     92.6    1.412
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:07 PM
Ariu Ariu is offline
 
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This is for RL26
Code:
Cartridge          : .280 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 145, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30282
Useable Case Capaci: 58.029 grain H2O = 3.768 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   82    47.10   2353    1783   27359   9215     89.6    1.545
-09.0   83    47.62   2381    1826   28150   9363     90.3    1.528
-08.0   84    48.14   2410    1869   28966   9509     91.0    1.511
-07.0   85    48.67   2438    1914   29810   9652     91.6    1.494
-06.0   86    49.19   2467    1959   30682   9792     92.3    1.477
-05.0   86    49.71   2496    2005   31585   9930     92.9    1.460
-04.0   87    50.24   2525    2052   32518  10065     93.5    1.444
-03.0   88    50.76   2554    2100   33484  10196     94.1    1.427
-02.0   89    51.28   2583    2148   34484  10323     94.7    1.411
-01.0   90    51.81   2612    2197   35519  10447     95.2    1.395
+00.0   91    52.33   2641    2246   36590  10567     95.7    1.379
+01.0   92    52.85   2671    2297   37699  10683     96.2    1.363
+02.0   93    53.38   2700    2348   38849  10795     96.7    1.347
+03.0   94    53.90   2730    2399   40040  10901     97.1    1.331
+04.0   95    54.42   2759    2452   41274  11004     97.5    1.315
+05.0   96    54.95   2789    2505   42553  11101     97.9    1.300

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     91    52.33   2829    2577   45198  10598     99.9    1.280
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     91    52.33   2404    1860   29575   9638     85.0    1.497
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:31 PM
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Thank you to those that responded. I now have enough data to start safely working up some loads.

Barnes had not tested and did not have plans to try RL23, but they had recipes for RL26 in 270 Win (awfully close to a 280, no?) that were a useful source of starting information...

Bruce
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