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11-13-2007, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Any one hear shoot a 25-06
Im a big fan of the 25-06 wondering if any one else does. What loads do ya use? What rifle is it? etc.
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11-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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I use one for deer and smaller and have a 30-06 for anything bigger. Both are Rem 700's. I use factory loads in both. 25-06 ballistic 115's. Both have 3-9x40 3200's
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11-13-2007, 07:52 PM
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Don't have one but that is my next cartridge purchase.
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11-13-2007, 08:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I love mine
Just picked up a used Sendero in 25-06 last week and it shoots great. The Fusion ammo i used to sight it in with is accurate. Shot only 15 rounds are so but can cover a three shot group at 200 yards with a small coin, calling a flyer or two. Burris 3X9. Man, I am happy with the gun and the cartridge!
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11-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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25-06 & 25-06 Ackley Improved
I liked my first 25-06, LH M77 MII, so much, that I had a semi-custom built on a LH M70 in 25-06 AI. Haven't had much time to 'work' with the AI, but it should be great. It has a 27" barrel so as not to waste all that powder capacity.
I've had good luck with 75 Vmax and H4350, very hard on gophers and coyotes. Hornady BTSP 117 and H1000 or IMR 7828. First load I'll be trying in the AI will be RE22 and 110 Nosler AB.
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11-13-2007, 08:54 PM
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The 25-06 is a very nice caliber. I have an Encore and shoot Federal 115 grain nosler partitions. I buddy of mine got a Sako from P&D for $900.00. (Lucky bugger) That's how I was first introduce to the cartridge.
Ed S.
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11-13-2007, 10:13 PM
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11-13-2007, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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what is the highest grain bullet you can use in a 25-06.
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11-13-2007, 10:26 PM
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The 3 deer I have shot with the B.T.'s were bang flops, and i think it is because they are so frangible. They go through the ribs and explode tearing apart the lungs. I haven't hit a shoulder yet, so don't know what will happen then.
I wouldn't hesitate using it for Elk/Moose with better constructed bullets. Probably TSX or similar.
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11-13-2007, 10:54 PM
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Two of my hunting partners use the 25-06,one a remington 700,and the other a tikka t-3.One uses the 100gr partition,and the other the 110gr accubond,both in handloads.Both bullets work very well on deer and a 100gr partition did a great job on a very large bull moose.The hunter normally carries a 300win mag on moose hunts,but we were supposedly on a deer hunt when the moose unexpectedly showed up.I personally killed about a dozen deer,a few pronghorn,a mountain goat,and an elk with the 257wby,which uses the same bullet but about 200fps faster than the 25-06.The 257's are my personal favorites for deer and smaller game,but I prefer a larger bullet and more energy for elk and moose.
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11-13-2007, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mallard man
what is the highest grain bullet you can use in a 25-06.
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I think it is 120 gr.
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11-13-2007, 11:36 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary AB
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I have used the 25-06 since 1984. By my recollection, I have harvested 50 MD, Wt and antelope with the 25-06.
I have used the 120 gr Speer boattail, the 120 gr Speer Grand Slam, and the last four have (including a whitetail buck tonight) shot with the 115 gr Barnes TSX.
I am really beginning to become fond of the TSX. The buck was slightly quartering to me at 51yds. I shot him on the point of the shoulder, where the neck joins the body. By the time the rifle came down from recoil, the buck was on the ground. I don't think it even twitched. Won't loose much meat at all. Other bullets I have ysed, I would have lost at least one shoulder with that shot.
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11-14-2007, 07:53 AM
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I have a 25-06 in a nef with the choate stock (the one on the ultra varmit hunter) and love it! One of reasons i got this gun is it had the 26 inch barrel. The favourite load that it seems to like are the 117 gr sst's from Hornady. It also likes the 100 gr vital shok nosler ballistic tips from federal, and Winchester's ballistic silver tip's. I took a 5 point bull elk this year using ONE 100 gr federal bullet. I am very impressed with this caliber!
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11-14-2007, 09:08 AM
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i just picked up a mossburg 4x4 and got them topped off with 110 grn accubonds ,,for load development will let u know how it does soon...
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11-14-2007, 09:40 AM
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11-14-2007, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
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i just picked up a mossburg 4x4 and got them topped off with 110 grn accubonds ,,for load development will let u know how it does soon...
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Refer to loading manuals I have shot the 110 accubonds with RL22 this renders the best fps. but not accurate IMR 4064 H 4831 and the load I use at present that produces .500 .675 accuracy @ 100 in a Browning A bolt is 49gr IMR 4350 with a Fed 210 primer its a little slow at average just over 3100fsp.
Just to get myself in trouble I think this to be more than Just a marginal Moose or Elk cartridge not the ultimate by any means but it affords good shot placment and wicked knock down for a small bullet. The Accubond is a great bullet!
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11-14-2007, 10:02 AM
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I also use 25.06. My recipe for my Ruger 77 and it loves them is IMR 4350, 47 g, Federal 210's, Speer 120 Spitzer. 2900 fps. I use them on moose or deer or elk. I have a Harris bipod and a Leupold VX2, yeah shes heavy.
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11-14-2007, 05:04 PM
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i love mine im only 16 and it was my first rifle in a model 700 with a bushnell 3200 i have killed 1 yote, 1 deer, 1 raven and a wolf hopefully make that 2 deer any time soon i have only shoot factory loads 120 corelokts mostly but i have all the reloadin stuff just havnt set it up yet
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11-14-2007, 05:36 PM
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Just to get myself in trouble I think this to be more than Just a marginal Moose or Elk cartridge not the ultimate by any means but it affords good shot placment and wicked knock down for a small bullet.
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I've got a couple of them but couldn't agree with you more Donny. Great calibre for deer, sheep and antelope but definitely not my choice for the bigger stuff. I shoot Trophy Bonded Bearclaws out of mine and like you say...wicked knock down for a small pill.
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11-14-2007, 07:52 PM
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Stick with 115 to 120 grain Partitions, A-Frames or x bullets. You need not only the good bullet construction, but a substantial sectional density to aid in penetration.
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Bullet construction is far more important than the sectional density of the unfired bullet.The sectional density of the unfired ,unexpanded bullet means very little,as it is the sectional density of the bullet as it penetrates that is important.For example,the partition usually retains about 65% of it's weight while a tsx usually retains about 90% of it's weight.Therefore a 100gr tsx will retain about 90gr while a 120gr partition will retain about 78gr.In other words,the lighter tsx could actually have a higher sectional density as it penetrates,resulting in more penetration than the heavier partition.
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11-14-2007, 08:36 PM
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25-06
Mine is a tikka 695. I usually load 100 gr ballistic tips, with Reloader 22.
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11-14-2007, 09:48 PM
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11-14-2007, 09:55 PM
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Actually, regardless of petals breaking off or not, all bullets tumble upon impact. This is very easy to see in ballistic gel. No bullet mushrooms in a perfectly uniform manner and therefore tumbles the instant it begins to expand. I think a lot of the theories on sectional density and such fail to consider this. There seems to be a magic speed for evey bullet for maximum penetration.
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11-14-2007, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheephunter
Actually, regardless of petals breaking off or not, all bullets tumble upon impact. This is very easy to see in ballistic gel. No bullet mushrooms in a perfectly uniform manner and therefore tumbles the instant it begins to expand. I think a lot of the theories on sectional density and such fail to consider this. There seems to be a magic speed for evey bullet for maximum penetration.
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Bang on the money Sheep my appreciation for the Accubond is that it has a great BC as does the Ballistics tip but holds up for the tumble where the BT never did hold together. In the end the 25-06 has stood the test of time and is a solid performer with a good selection of bullets given weight restrictions
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11-14-2007, 10:29 PM
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11-14-2007, 10:50 PM
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I have shot thousands of both tsx/x bullets and Partitions.
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If you have shot thousands of tsx/x and partitions,you either practice a great deal with expensive bullets,or you have probably killed more game than everyone on this forum put together.
Personally,I have only fired perhaps seven hundred or eight hundred tsx/x/mrx and partition bullets,the vast majority of which were developing loads,testing trajectories,and verifying zeros.I have only been present for the recovery of perhaps a couple of dozen partitions and a dozen or so tsx/x bullets from game,and in all cases,the tsx/x bullets retained significantly more weight.I have seen many more animals killed with these bullets,but the majority were pass throughs,so I can't comment on weight retention for those bullets.
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11-14-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lurch
I am not a ballistics expert Sheep, and am only going by what I have seen in the field. It would stand to reason that some tumbling would happen - but I have learned long ago when it comes to bullet actions and performance - nothing is absolute.
At any rate, back to the original purpose of the post.
My brother is shooting 100 grain speer bullets over H4831 with pretty good results accuracy wise too.....
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Tumbling is absolute!
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11-14-2007, 11:47 PM
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11-15-2007, 06:18 AM
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You need to read the post about character assassination SJ. I can appreciate your thoughts and opinions, but I do not appreciate the condescending statement.
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My post was not meant to attack anyones character,just making the statement that you must either practise a great deal,or that you have shot more game than the vast majority of people ever will.I have shot many premium bullets myself,but not nearly as many as you have.
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11-15-2007, 06:42 AM
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I didn't read the SJ's post as a personal attack myself, and did't read anything "bad" into it , either.
HOWEVER, all this ballistics talk only matters AFTER the bullet hits where it is supposed to!
I have had my character absolutley attacked by others on a very popular gun forum for using Gamekings.
Why? "because they are a "sh**t bullet, they break up"!
I have loaded Game Kings for many people over the years , as well as other
"non premium " bullets, and anytime anyone complained about the bullets was when they were doing a postmortem on a dead critter ( most of which went "bang flop"!)
I've seen failures on all bullets made, and good kills.
Too many variables come into play other than a bullet's contstruction when it come to killing to label any one bullet as "the best".
I think sometimes we get too wrapped up in one little thing, especially about bullet type and different cailbers, and not concentrate on how to put the bullet where it is supposed to go.
Ya gotta hit what you are aiming at before killing it.
Okay, I'm done, I feel much better now!
Cat
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