Electric Motors Only waters in AB. Keep this list handy

[nicemustang]

Definitions

"power-driven" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an internal combustion engine or a steam engine. ( propulsion mécanique ) "

"electrical propulsion" means a mode of propulsion provided by a main propelling machinery that is an electric motor powered by electric cells. ( propulsion électrique ) "

SCHEDULE 3

(Subsection 2(3))

WATERS ON WHICH POWER-DRIVEN VESSELS ARE PROHIBITED

ALBERTA


Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
Item Name Given by the Gazetteer of Canada or Description Local Name Location Reference Alberta Land Titles Act Reference System)

Southern Region

1. Michelle Reservoir 5-7-3-W4
2. Reesor Lake 20-8-1-W4
3. McQuillan Lake 13-8-19-W4
4. Round Lake 16,17-1,2-W4
5. Beaverdam Lake 1,2-27,28-W4
6. Cochrane Lake 30-4-27-W4
7. Bullshead Reservoir 28,29-8-4-W4
8. Emerald Lake 8-8-5-W5
9. Brooks Aqueduct Pond 15-18-14-W4

Central Region

1. Dobson Reservoir 12-30-8-W4
2. Fyten Reservoir 9-30-24-W4
3. Michichi Reservoir 19-30-18-W4
4. Severn Creek Reservoir 11-26-22-W4
5. Stafford Lake (Brooks Children′s Pond) 4-19-14-W4
6. Tilley A Reservoir 8-18-12-W4
7. Tilley B Reservoir 31-18-12-W4
8. Huber Reservoir 36-37-13-W4
9. Mound Red Reservoir 11-45-28-W4
10. Sardine Lake 32-48-4-W5
11. Twin Lakes 46-3-W5
12. Short Hills (Cran) Pond 2-42-19-W4
13. Windsor Lake 10-42-22-W4
14. Ashland Dam 32-48-4-W5
15. Gooseberry Park Pond 22-36-6-W4
16. Winchell Lake 2-29-5-W5
17. Fish Lake 2-43-10-W4
18. Bigelow Reservoir 34-25-W4
19. Mirror Reservoir 29-40-22-W4
20. Lacombe Lake 52°26′ 113°48′
21. Coronation Reservoir 24-36-11-W4

East Slopes Region

1. Eccles Pond 8-53-24-W5
2. Cache Lake 52-26-W5
3. Donald Lake 4-53-1-W6
4. Emerald Lake 5-62-11-W5
5. Emerson Lakes 52-21-W5
6. Graveyard Lake 52-26-W5
7. Joachim Lakes 18-57-3-W6
8. Kinky Lake 50-26-W5
9. Laura Lake 32-61-11-W5
10. Mary Gregg Lake 48-24-W5
11. À la Pêche Lake 33-55-6-W6
12. Wildhorse Lakes 49-26-W5
13. Millers Lake 8-53-19-W5
14. Sang Lake Surprise Lake 9-53-15-W5
15. Schuman Lake 61-8-W5
16. Margaret Lake 15-28-9-W5
17. Rat Lake 11-38-9-W5
18. Peppers Lake 30-35-12-W5
19. Goldeye Lake 14-40-16-W5
20. Shunda Lake Fish Lake 40-15-W5
21. Tay Lake 6-36-8-W5
22. Phyllis Lake 17-36-7-W5
23. Mitchell Lake 36-37-8-W5
24. Alford Lake 4-36-8-W5
25. Pierre Greys Lakes 6-57-4-W6
26. Open Creek Reservoir 31-42-4-W5
27. Dunn Lake 7-54-25-W5
28. Petite Lake 12-54-26-W5
29. Upper Moose Horn Lake 31-50-1-W6
30. Lower Moose Horn Lake 6-51-1-W6
31. Kia Nea Lake 49-26-W5
32. Peanut Lake 9-55-15-W5
33. Pegasus Lake 61-11-W5
34. Victor Lake 35-56-8-W6
35. Beaver Lake 16-35-6-W5

Northeast Region

1. Black Nugget Mine Pit 2,11-49-18-W4
2. Eden Lake 13-53-2-W5
3. Chickakoo Lake 34-53-1-W5
4. Hubbles Lake 9-53-1-W5
5. Lower Chain Lake 17,18-69-23-W5
6. Sauer Lake 33-53-1-W5
7. Star Lake 20-52-2-W5
8. Mile 18 Lake 18-71-13-W4
9. Hamilton Lake 59-13,14-W4
10. Ashland Dam 20-48-3-W5
11. Shuster Lake 35-43-5-W4

Peace River Region

1. Figure Eight Lake 20-84-25-W5
2. Mirage Lake 79-8-W6
3. Running Lake 34-88-7-W6
4. Spring Lake 23-75-11-W6
5. Stoney Lake 31-86-3-W6
6. Ole Lake 30-84-12-W6
7. Twin Lake 97-22-W5
8. Hilltop Lake 75-7-W6
9. Machaeisis Lake 23,27-107-16-W5
10. Swan Lake 70-25,26-W5

Reference to Canadian law.

Updated links:
Transport Canada: Here
Vessel law: Here

[The Fisherman Guy]

Thanks Musty, great for us solar powered canoe types!

[Ken07AOVette]

great info, thanks for sharing the list!

Now, in the great tradition of asking how far limits can be stretched, does that mean I can use my 20.5' Inboard if I only fire up my trolling motor?

[nicemustang]

I think so yes, but no 100% sure of that one. See many people doing it.

[tallieho]

thanks for the info mustang

[Jack&7]

Thanks for the info, mustang.

I am curious about one thing, though: why would anyone be against using a steam powered engine on a lake?

The reason I ask is because i have a friend who built a beautiful cedar-strip canoe and has it powered by a hand-made steam engine. It is incredibly cool! I am assuming the internal combustion engine is prohibited due to the possible enviromental impact due to contamination of a lake...but what reason would there be against a steam-powered unit?

[mikeym]

probably more to do with the lubricating oil and possible leakage and contamination. most steam engines will still use lubricating oils in them and these can leak into the water. electric motors don't use lubricating oils.

that would be my guess.

rgds
Mike

[floppychicken]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

great info, thanks for sharing the list!

Now, in the great tradition of asking how far limits can be stretched, does that mean I can use my 20.5' Inboard if I only fire up my trolling motor?

From what I can remember, there were signs at many lakes that stated 'No Engine Mounted' watercraft were permitted. I think Beaver lake has such a sign, but I can't remember.... Pretty sure you can't take ANY Engine mounted boat into most 'Electric Only' Lakes. Would be good to have Clarification on that one....

/J..

[floppychicken]

Great list there 'NiceMustang' !!

Will be investigating some of these lakes this year with my Buddies new Inflatable !

Cheers,

/J...

[GaryF]

Yes, I know old thread. Was looking at the regulations for boats but in multiple sections they list the same bodies of water. Section 1 is completely banned of boats(Chain and travers have boat launches tho??), 2 is motors and electrics(Cow and crimson??), and 3 is motors. But multiple lakes are in all 3 sections???? So what is correct? How do you determine which schedule to follow?

[Kim473]

Hmmm, does this apply to driving a car on the ice. It has a gas engine and could lose oil on the ice which would melt into the lake? Or how about the ice auger? Know many augers do lose some gas out the carb and places. Just asking.
Thx for the info.

[Bigtoad]

My question is, why does it not specifically tell you in the regs? They drive me absolutely crazy!

I think Barry Mitchell should just take over production of the regs and align them with his Alberta Fishing Guide information. One magazine that has the regs, the size and type of fish, directions on how to find it and access locations, motor types/limits, and a colour map that you can actually use!

It makes sooooo much sense! I guess that is why SRD hasn't done it yet

Cheers.

[duffy4]

Originally Posted by Kim473

Hmmm, does this apply to driving a car on the ice. It has a gas engine and could lose oil on the ice which would melt into the lake? Or how about the ice auger? Know many augers do lose some gas out the carb and places. Just asking.
Thx for the info.

Actually the "electric only" regulations have nothing to do with gas&oil.

It is for safety sake. That is probably why the steam engine part is there.

Small lakes with lots of people use can not safely allow "big speedy boats".

Boating regulations are not part of SRD regulations, they are "Federal oceans and waters" or something like that.

I was at a lake in a provincial park once and a fellow was about to unload an OHV to go on the lake ice-fishing. A "park warden" informed him that OHV were not allowed in the park so he could not unload it in the parking lot and drive it to the lake. However he told the fellow that he could back out onto the lake and unload the OHV there and drive it only on the lake.

The dry ground was Provincial parks regulations but the lake was Federal regulations. However the "park warden" was able to enforce provincial fishing regulations on the lake.

[nicemustang]

Department of ocean and fisheries actually.

[kostianych]

great info, thanks

[dodger]

Originally Posted by floppychicken

From what I can remember, there were signs at many lakes that stated 'No Engine Mounted' watercraft were permitted. I think Beaver lake has such a sign, but I can't remember.... Pretty sure you can't take ANY Engine mounted boat into most 'Electric Only' Lakes. Would be good to have Clarification on that one....

/J..

This is the only info I could find on the forum that is close to what I am looking for. I was wondering the same thing floppychicken asked ( is a boat with a gas engine mounted to the boat allowed on an electric only lake?? ) I remember a thread where someone stated even with it tilted out of the water you are not permitted to launch it in an electric only lake?? Does anyone have a link that may help me. I spent some serious time trying to find some clarification on the federal website.

Regards, Dodger.

[bobalong]

Originally Posted by dodger

This is the only info I could find on the forum that is close to what I am looking for. I was wondering the same thing floppychicken asked ( is a boat with a gas engine mounted to the boat allowed on an electric only lake?? ) I remember a thread where someone stated even with it tilted out of the water you are not permitted to launch it in an electric only lake?? Does anyone have a link that may help me. I spent some serious time trying to find some clarification on the federal website.

Regards, Dodger.

I phoned the Fish and Wildlife in Edmonton a few years ago and asked them about having a gas motor on the boat in Star Lake. He said that as long as the prop is not in the water it is fine. I have used mine on Star ever since.
I have never saw the sign mentioned above stating "No engine mounted watercraft" it may be different at those lakes. I only asked specifically about Star Lake.

[dodger]

Thanks !!
Dodger.

[Torquil]

Originally Posted by Jack&7

Thanks for the info, mustang.

I am curious about one thing, though: why would anyone be against using a steam powered engine on a lake?

The reason I ask is because i have a friend who built a beautiful cedar-strip canoe and has it powered by a hand-made steam engine. It is incredibly cool! I am assuming the internal combustion engine is prohibited due to the possible enviromental impact due to contamination of a lake...but what reason would there be against a steam-powered unit?

I like to think it is cause when people relax and fish they dont want yahoos water skiing past them at several miles per hour.
but I am idealistic.
I searched this list out cause I have a small inflatable that i recieved for a safety award.
was going to get an electric motor but i have decided i am too cheap so will stick with my oars

thanks for the list guys

[SD1797]

Time for a bump to the top...was out on star lake and was told by property owner that gas motors were not allowed...went back to the laugh and guess what? No mention of that on the sign with the lakes rules and regulations.

[CMichaud]

I asked the morinville by-law guys about heritage. A sign is posted that says "no motors"

On the Justice site it says "no vessels"

This link seems to list the applic restirctions...

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/r...120/index.html

Have yet to hear back from them

[yetiseeker]

Originally Posted by SD1797

Time for a bump to the top...was out on star lake and was told by property owner that gas motors were not allowed...went back to the laugh and guess what? No mention of that on the sign with the lakes rules and regulations.

If you look at the sign when leaving the road (before the hill down into the lake), there is a sign showing a propeller with a strike through it. So, it does have a sign stating no gas. Agreed it's not on the lake regs, but it does show it.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by yetiseeker

If you look at the sign when leaving the road (before the hill down into the lake), there is a sign showing a propeller with a strike through it. So, it does have a sign stating no gas. Agreed it's not on the lake regs, but it does show it.

That sign includes electric powered, not just gas.

[yetiseeker]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

That sign includes electric powered, not just gas.

Huntsfurfish,

I disagree with your statement. You are allowed electric motors on Star.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

That sign includes electric powered, not just gas.

Check boating exam.

https://www.boatsmartexam.com/ca/boa...practice-test/

[Lornce]

Last September I was at Beaver Lake. When I came in F & W was ticketing a fellow with an electric and a kicker on his tinner. It was up, it didn't matter, Ticket was for a gas motor on a restricted lake, plain and simple. The officer also took a swab across the motor.

[yetiseeker]

So I read through the 2016 fishing regs. I can't seem to locate the section showing which waters are electric only.

Does anyone know where this information can be found.

Thanks

[Lornce]

It's not in the Fishing regulations, look for it on the Gov of Canada site
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/r...120/index.html

Look for SCHEDULE 3

[fluxcore]

From what I've been told you cannot have a gas motor on an electric only lake period, even if it's up.

[bobalong]

Originally Posted by fluxcore

From what I've been told you cannot have a gas motor on an electric only lake period, even if it's up.

And I was told that if the motor is up, prop not in water it is fine. That is the problem with leaving the regulation open to interpretation by anglers and F/W officers.
This debate has been going on for years and F/W or whoever makes the boating laws refuse to clearly define the regulation. All they would have to do is state that gas motors can not be used or mounted on boats in lakes that have the restriction.