thinking of buying a yote gun.

25-06rem.model700 · #1 07-30-2007, 06:52 PM

i already own 2 "ok" yote guns a savage .22hornet (not flat shooting enough) and my 25-06, which gets the job down but i want some thing faster and flatter with out the kick (not that the 25-06 kicks bad just i like to see the bullet hit home) Im only 15 so the price of the price of the gun has a lot to do with my selection

#2 07-30-2007, 07:11 PM

Not trying to talk you out of buying a new gun but if money is an issue, there's sure nothing wrong with that .25-06. What grain bullets are you shooting out of it and how much speed are you looking for. The problem with some of the super fast, light-weight bullets is that the slightest breeze throws your accuracy out the window.

Wrongside · #3 07-30-2007, 07:22 PM

Sounds like you've got the 'short' and 'long' stuff covered. I'd think a .223 would fit nicely between the two you've got now. Although, it isn't faster or flatter than the 25-06 it would fill a niche.

My go to coyote gun has been a 25-06 and boy it does the job. I've been shooting the 75 Vmax @ around 3700 fps. Think I'll be trying something like the 110 Accubond this winter though.

I've just added a 223 Tikka for the shorter stuff. Also, 223 is quite economical to shoot, which is good in my book.

7 REM MAG · #4 07-30-2007, 09:26 PM

i shoot a 22-250 in tikka T3 stainless varmint and it kicks ass. but if your on a budget it deffinetly is not the right choice. i would reccomend that you look into a 204 or 22-250 in a remington 700 sps or a mossberg or weatherby even though i hate to say it will do well on a budget. You probabally already know this but spend as much on optics as your budget will allow, i personally would down grade my gun and up grade my scope

Dick284 · #5 07-31-2007, 08:32 AM

223 for playing, that's a no brainer.
I bought a 22-250 heavy barrel, and sure do like it for a more traditionl varmint gun stand point.
The 204 is developing quite the following, but I think the 22-250's ability to shoot heavier bullets makes it moe desirable for long bombs in varrying types of conditions.
Then there is a 243 with 55, 65, 70, and 75 grain bullets, they buck the wind better than their .224" cousins, and will reach as far as any of the other popular varmint calibers.

Confused yet?

Richard B. · #6 07-31-2007, 11:46 AM

The .223 has a wide variety of factoryammo and gun models to suit your preference and budget along with inexpensive practice ammo.

For less money I vote with Sheephunter and suggest handloading the .25-06.

Richard

roger · #7 07-31-2007, 06:15 PM

your 2506 is the best thing going...push some 75's or 87's out the pipe and your in business. and load up some 100's or 120's for anything up ungulates.

if you feel the need to spend money...get a better scope or better yet get basic reloading equipment and most of all, learn how to use it

Versatile · #8 07-31-2007, 08:00 PM

Even the 22-250 isnt too bad to shoot. You can buy that UMC stuff for a few dollars more a box than the UMC .223

Supermag · #9 07-31-2007, 08:16 PM

I have a heavy-barrelled Savage 12FV with the Accutrigger. It is easily my favorite gun!! It shoots the el-cheapo Wal-Mart white box 40 gr Winchester JHP rounds into an honest 3/4" group at 100m all day long! I have a pretty cheap Bushnell Legend 5-15 X40 with mildots on it, and it's sighted (I think) 1 1/2" high at 100, dead on at 200, and if I hold on the first mildot down, it's bang on at 300, with 3" groups. I can switch to the white box Winchester 55gr soft points, and the point of impact change is pretty minor. (The difference being, having to be bang on to whack gophers at 300m, vs a coyote at 300m)

The .223 isn't as fast as the .22-250, but then, the .22-250 isn't as fast as the .220 Swift. Hey, then your getting pretty similar to your .25-06, loaded hot with a light bullet.

The .223 would be a great gun for your locker, IMO.

Stinky Coyote · #10 08-01-2007, 09:03 AM

Sounds like your crying out for a .204 ruger to me. Watch the impacts in the scope and trajectory of a .22-250 but hitting power of a .223. The .204 is for you.

Dick284 · #11 08-01-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

Sounds like your crying out for a .204 ruger to me. Watch the impacts in the scope and trajectory of a .22-250 but hitting power of a .223. The .204 is for you.

So why not get the hitting power of the 22-250 and the trajectory of the 22-250?

The 25'06 will no doubt kill yotes, I've shot boat loads with mine but the problem is I have'nt found a hide friendly bullet yet, on about 60% of the yotes I've killed with the 75gr. V-Max's I've got some hum dinger exit wounds.

If my one season of shooting the 22-250 is any indication the 40gr. V-max's at 3900 are a way friendlier hide bullet.

Redfrog · #12 08-01-2007, 11:44 AM

If you just want them dead, really dead, like graveyard deaD, stick with the 25.06.
If you want to save the fur, use a ,223 to 300 yds. Savage or Tikka. for inexpensive guns. I prefer the Tikka.

I use a .220 Swift for long range stuff. I try not to shoot closer than about 200 yards. 60 gr. HP to 500+ yds. not much fur damage and bucks the wind good. Fast and flat. The trouble with shooting a swift for coyotes is that any other gun you ever buy for coyotes will always be a .220 Swift.

It's pretty hard to choke down a bologna sandwich after you've had a great ribeye.

Stinky Coyote · #13 08-01-2007, 01:01 PM

But if your even half sadistic like me....then you want to see those impacts in the scope

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Can't beat the .204 for that...it fits the bill for what he's asking. He's got the biggest of the large size coyote calibers already...this fits in the middle for him perfectly. Trust me kid...get the .204....its like having the .223 and the .22-250 all in one....with fries and a coke on the side too!

Its also just plain funner to shoot than everything mentioned so far.

Redfrog · #14 08-01-2007, 01:17 PM

S/C I had a 204, and you are right, it is a great flat shooter. I just kept grabbing my swift.

I ended up selling the .204

The .204 is very good if you reload. The 36gr berger or 39gr. Sierras are both good coyote bullets. A lot of the others splash on impact, and you end up with a runner with a lot of fur damage.
I have had clients use the .204 and definitely had bullet brand affect terminal results.

The .204 could realistically stretch the range to close to 400yds. I believe with the right gun and shooter.

Stinky Coyote · #15 08-01-2007, 01:29 PM

agree....have heard it runs out of good 'knock em down right there' steam after about 350 yrds...but that should be where the 25-06 will start to come in handy...so far i've only used the factory 32 gr v-max and i'm happy...big male at 235 and small female at 285 for my long shots and both dropped in that perfect and beautiful way that you hope they always drop

for your wide open stuff where your not even getting warmed up unless they are over 200 and it becomes funner once they get near 500 then i'd say minimum is 22-250, better yet your 220 swift and if a can reload a 25-06 then it would be a long range king too....but for the average 0-350 yrd coyote gun....there is none better than the .204 imo....reloader or not. 16 bucks a box of factory ammo makes it pretty awesome performance for the buck imo (over 4000 fps and generally sub-moa).

ABwhitetail · #16 08-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Has anyone tried the 25WSSM???

Dick284 · #17 08-01-2007, 06:26 PM

25WSSM=257 Bob AI in another shape.
Put 75gr's in it and let her rip, of course that's if you hand load, if you dont well, 75's are gonna be pretty hard to find on anyones shelf.