Another shooting in Colorado.

[fish gunner]

Thats uuu some unbiased media there. Kid wanted to join the US airforce hmm shiny ***** maybe but dont sound like much of a communist .
"The recent shootings on US military bases have also been in gun free areas of those bases. One of them was also with a shotgun, not your much maligned AR15 with standard capacity mags." Ur going to have to post a link for that ,cause ime no such thing in any military compound . Now the yanks are special but im quite sure its sop to have a standing gate guard . With random foot or vehicle patrols . Now if one were to enter a building one would of course clear breach and drop mag but I've never heard of a no go zone for a patrol on a camp duty. Hey there Americas.
"What does your rant about standard capacity magazines have to do with this case? The young socialist who believed strongly in gun control legally purchased his pump action shotgun, then went on a crime spree"
Not sure what you mean by standard capacity mag . A stirling smg has a standard 30 round mag , a Lewis gun has a 50round drum , the ar "standard" mag is 10 .so a 30 round mag would be high capacity no??. It was used to show the available freely accessible firearms in close proximity to "firearm free zones " as a mute point .the fire arm free zone is not the problem, the tackticle firearms at the end of the block falling into the wrong hands is.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Thats uuu some unbiased media there. Kid wanted to join the US airforce hmm shiny ***** maybe but dont sound like much of a communist .
"The recent shootings on US military bases have also been in gun free areas of those bases. One of them was also with a shotgun, not your much maligned AR15 with standard capacity mags." Ur going to have to post a link for that ,cause ime no such thing in any military compound . Now the yanks are special but im quite sure its sop to have a standing gate guard . With random foot or vehicle patrols . Now if one were to enter a building one would of course clear breach and drop mag but I've never heard of a no go zone for a patrol on a camp duty. Hey there Americas.
"What does your rant about standard capacity magazines have to do with this case? The young socialist who believed strongly in gun control legally purchased his pump action shotgun, then went on a crime spree"
Not sure what you mean by standard capacity mag . A stirling smg has a standard 30 round mag , a Lewis gun has a 50round drum , the ar "standard" mag is 10 .so a 30 round mag would be high capacity no??. It was used to show the available freely accessible firearms in close proximity to "firearm free zones " as a mute point .the fire arm free zone is not the problem, the tackticle firearms at the end of the block falling into the wrong hands is.

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Security: As the usual suspects call for stricter gun control, the fact remains that a gunman with two prior gun-crime arrests entered a secure military facility with a stolen ID and found no one able to shoot back.

It was Fort Hood all over again. Aaron Alexis, a gunman whose prior behavioral warning signs were ignored, opens fire in an installation belonging to the most powerful military on Earth and those who protect our nation and design our weapons are not allowed to have a weapon to defend themselves.

He was more equipped than the 12 people he killed on the base who were not permitted to carry weapons on the base, thanks to former President Bill Clinton.

In 1993 the president issued orders that barred members of the military and their civilian contractors from carrying personal firearms on base. Even officers were disarmed under the law.

Almost as soon as Clinton assumed office, in March 1993 the Army imposed regulations forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms and making it almost impossible for commanders to issue firearms to soldiers in the U.S. for personal protection.

That ban extends to virtually all U.S military bases and related installations.

Under the ruling enacted by the Clinton administration, there must be "a credible and specific threat against personnel" before military personnel "may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection."

This was the reason that the Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was able to go on a rampage for a full 10 minutes in 2009 without being stopped.

This is why, at Fort Hood, home of the heavily armed and feared 1st Cavalry Division, a civilian policewoman from off base was the one whose marksmanship ended Hasan's terrorist rampage, to this day obscenely called "workplace violence," denying survivors and the dead medals and benefits.

The liberal reaction to the Navy Yard massacre mirrors the reaction, after Fort Hood, of Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

He opined, "This latest tragedy, at a heavily fortified army base, ought to convince more Americans to reject the argument that the solution to gun violence is to arm more people with more guns in more places." What?

On Monday night, anchor John Roberts asked Mandy Foster, the wife of one of the soldiers shot at Fort Hood, how she felt about her husband's upcoming deployment to Afghanistan. She responded: "At least he's safe there and he can fire back, right?" Safer than at the Washington Navy Yard or Fort Hood.



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[hillbillyreefer]

Oh and the standard issue AR15 mag was 20 rounds when adopted by the USAF in 1962 and has since been updated to 30.

From: http://www.keltecforum.com/articles/a4/a4.html

[2-1-1] Early Designs
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The original AR-15 magazines were made by ArmaLite, the company responsible for the design of the AR-10 and AR-15 rifles, among others. They were aluminum, 20-round magazines and had waffle-pattern ridges, though later examples had only the vertical ridges. These mags are very rare, and are generally collectors' items. Floorplates were stamped:

ArmaLite(r) AR-15
Patents Pending
CAL. 223
COLT'S PT.F.A.MFG.CO.INC.
HARTFORD, CONN.U.S.A.

[rugatika]

Why would liberals rather sacrifice the lives of innocent children than admit they are wrong? How cold and soulless do you have to be to believe that deeply in your ideology?

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by rugatika

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...bias_case.html

Haven't heard much about this on the news.

Anyone wanna guess why his rampage was stopped? http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...ooter-n1763415




I have to wonder what kind of coverage this would be getting if he was a member of the teaparty?

Looking forward to the comments

Saw it on the news...heard it on the CBC.

Not as much coverage as some but then again the victim count was small by comparisson so not as eye catching to the media.

I do not believe that the coverage or lack thereof had anything to do with a highschool students politics.

In fact...I think its pretty lame for anyone to try to further their agenda using annecdotal reference to individual tragedy.
Pro-Anti... it doesn't matter.

One kid with a gun making poor choices and killing another is just that and lone events should not be seen as an opportunity to score points.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Why would liberals rather sacrifice the lives of innocent children than admit they are wrong? How cold and soulless do you have to be to believe that deeply in your ideology?

I'm sure a lot of those liberals aren't "Breeders", but they have time, money and an agenda to push. Fishgummer hates guns.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

I'm sure a lot of those liberals aren't "Breeders", but they have time, money and an agenda to push. Fishgummer hates guns.

That must be why he bought one from me last year.

Guys entitled to his opinion and lets face it... its a bit of s stretch to assign political ideology to a troubled teen then make the leap that there is some sort opf Liberal conspiracy at play here.

There are however always extremeists on both sides that might try to make hay with it.

They have theirs and obviously...looking at this thread...we have ours as well.