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Old 03-18-2017, 05:38 PM
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Default Giving "gifts" to landowners.

So if I recall correctly, in my Hunters Ed; it stated that landowners cannot get paid and accept gifts for letting hunters hunt on their land. From what I have seen and hear, EVERYONE does it. I mean it's rude going on their land, hunting and not giving a gift of thanks. I have heard everything from meat from the animal, beer, vodka, timmies cards, sausage, and other things.

So what do ya'll do??
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Old 03-18-2017, 06:02 PM
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One guy from Quebec that came here to hunt pigeons every year would give everyone a few tins of maple syrup...
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Old 03-18-2017, 06:18 PM
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Only time I hunted private land was last year I gave the elderly couple a tommies card and some jerky and sausage and have been invited back but private lands not my thing so won't be doing it again
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:35 PM
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Only time I hunted private land was last year I gave the elderly couple a tommies card and some jerky and sausage and have been invited back but private lands not my thing so won't be doing it again


Only time I hunt private land is for waterfowl. It's hard to find a good spot on crown land to hunt snows and get nice flocks of Canada's.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:44 PM
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Fresh baking at Christmas, goes along way to winning over the lady of the house. Fresh sausage from a harvest and a sincere thank you and a hearty handshake. We are lucky to have landowners who allow access, tiss nice to show them their kindness is noted and not taken taken for granted
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:45 PM
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I seen 10-12 Canadian geese today that's a good sign 👍
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Crown Royal.
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One cattle rancher whose land I hunt, gave him a euro-mounted 4x4 that I found rotting in his field the previous winter. He had seen the deer before, and was hoping to arrow it but never saw it during bow-season.


Another farmer (right across the road from the cattle rancher) who lets me hunt his land, bought him his favorite Scotch (brand slips my mind) last Xmas... $60 well spent.

They were gifts out of respect & friendship... Not for letting me hunt there.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:17 AM
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... They were gifts out of respect & friendship... Not for letting me hunt there...
Thrown more than the odd rope, and learned a long time ago how to run a squeeze gate.
Strung and stretched a little wire from time to time as well.

If you can, the very best is to offer your willing hands when he needs one.

Other than that - Smoked Salmon

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Old 03-19-2017, 02:41 AM
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I try to maintain a relationship with the landowners that grant us access throughout the year. I will stop by during the summer to visit. Sometimes lend a hand if needed. Sometimes just enjoy a cold beer from the cooler and a chat.
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We gave a bit of sausage and some meat. They said that we are always welcome there. It's a small price to pay in the long run.
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Small box of Belgian Chocolates to our landowner host of the last 30 years.
They have always been appreciated.
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:58 AM
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The intent of the regulations, it's to prevent landowners from selling or trading access for hunting, not to prevent hunters and landowners from being friends. Yet some idiots go as far as to advertise on Kijiji to pay for access for the purpose of hunting. Good for the OP for actually paying attention during his Hunter Ed course.
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One thing that ranchers really like is to be offered some help come branding time which is just around the corner.
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So if I recall correctly, in my Hunters Ed; it stated that landowners cannot get paid and accept gifts for letting hunters hunt on their land. From what I have seen and hear, EVERYONE does it. I mean it's rude going on their land, hunting and not giving a gift of thanks. I have heard everything from meat from the animal, beer, vodka, timmies cards, sausage, and other things.

So what do ya'll do??
So what do you do ??

How do you BREAK the law?

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Hello everyone,

I want to start hunting but have no clue how to start since my dad doesn't hunt and my friends all moved. I know in order to use a firearm, I would need a firearms license but do I still need anything if I would want to use a bow? Also what would I need to hunt deer or coyotes? Please be kind haha.

Thanks!
Now you are making how to videos to teach other hunters ! I am impressed.
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A few nice steaks etc between landowner and hunter is very much appreciated.
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Thrown more than the odd rope, and learned a long time ago how to run a squeeze gate.
Strung and stretched a little wire from time to time as well.

If you can, the very best is to offer your willing hands when he needs one.

Other than that - Smoked Salmon

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I thought it was a "given" that myself & others would offer free labour.

That was the first thing I said after being granted permission, "if you need ANY help around the farm, just call/text/ask"...

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So what do you do ??

How do you BREAK the law?



Now you are making how to videos to teach other hunters ! I am impressed.
I'm not catching your drift here haha. Not sure if you're being rude or nice...

The way I break the law is by helping out where I can. Many people trespass on the property I hunt and the fellow is so tired he stopped even checking. I just let him know and he deals with it.
People wonder why farmers hate hunters. Maybe if people didn't just assume a farmer has too much land to constantly check for poachers, hunters would have a better chance eating some great land to hunt.
I don't really offer gifts, I just "accidentally" leave something.
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:31 PM
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I'm not catching your drift here haha. Not sure if you're being rude or nice...

The way I break the law is by helping out where I can. Many people trespass on the property I hunt and the fellow is so tired he stopped even checking. I just let him know and he deals with it.
People wonder why farmers hate hunters. Maybe if people didn't just assume a farmer has too much land to constantly check for poachers, hunters would have a better chance EATING some great land to hunt.
I don't really offer gifts, I just "accidentally" leave something.
I don't usually EAT land, and as far as "leaving something" I clean up after myself and let the landowners know that I appreciate the access by cutting trees off the fence and putting it back up where a moose has run over it, and offer to get rid of coyotes around the calving area.
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:48 PM
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Odd how every year a bottle of there favorite falls out of my truck and right in to the land owners hands lol
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:50 PM
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I don't usually EAT land, and as far as "leaving something" I clean up after myself and let the landowners know that I appreciate the access by cutting trees off the fence and putting it back up where a moose has run over it, and offer to get rid of coyotes around the calving area.
Dang autocorrect. I meant getting some great hunting land.
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Gifts are ok, as long as they are not a CONDITION for access. Most landowners who allow me permission to hunt are also friends.

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Old 03-19-2017, 08:06 PM
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Gifts are ok, as long as they are not a CONDITION for access. Most landowners who allow me permission to hunt are also friends.

LC
I tried to gain access on Hutt land and he out front told me he loves beer. I mean not an issue for me, but many people have issues with Hutts charging close to $400 per gun for waterfowl hunts.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:28 PM
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So why is is illegal to give a gift? Is it just to stop land owners from charging us to get permission? Or is it ment to equal us out and make sure that buddy who has enough money to buy a truck for a landowner doesnt get permission due to that?

I figure the gift depends on the owner. I dont deal with folks who expect praise and gifts for being nice enough to do me a favour. If the only rhing you expect me to do is respect the property and follow your rules ill be more than happy to do a days work or give you a bottle of whisky.
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I'm not catching your drift here haha. Not sure if you're being rude or nice...

The way I break the law is by helping out where I can. Many people trespass on the property I hunt and the fellow is so tired he stopped even checking. I just let him know and he deals with it.
People wonder why farmers hate hunters. Maybe if people didn't just assume a farmer has too much land to constantly check for poachers, hunters would have a better chance eating some great land to hunt.
I don't really offer gifts, I just "accidentally" leave something.
You ask kind of an odd question in light of this statement you made back in September of last year.

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I also found out that we cannot even give a Timmies card for letting us hunt on their land.
First you say it's illegal, then you think it's illegal, then you ask what we do, {to break the law}
You don't see a problem with that?

For a 24 year old collage graduate/newbe hunter you ask a lot of hot button questions.

Gifting landowners,
Shooting feral horses,
Jack Lighting,
buying a smuggled rifle
using drones for hunting,
Shooting next to someone's RV,
Why members get banned,
Someone messing with your trail cam,
Hunting partner trust issues,
Baiting migratory birds,


And that's just a partial list from the past 12 months.

Pretty ambitious for a newbe that knew nothing about hunting until this past year.




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Hello everyone,

Been a member here for a while now mostly in the fishing forums. New to hunting altogether though. Only "hunting" experience I have is shooting gophers by my house and target with a .22 pellet gun.
But in


December of 2014
you say;

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Also I have hunted in Texas but not with the guides.
September 2016;

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I used to guide in Texas and was I supposed to make every client sign a contract that they won't tell their friends or I will sue them?

Your story has holes in it my friend.
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You ask kind of an odd question in light of this statement you made back in September of last year.



First you say it's illegal, then you think it's illegal, then you ask what we do, {to break the law}
You don't see a problem with that?

For a 24 year old collage graduate/newbe hunter you ask a lot of hot button questions.

Gifting landowners,
Shooting feral horses,
Jack Lighting,
buying a smuggled rifle
using drones for hunting,
Shooting next to someone's RV,
Why members get banned,
Someone messing with your trail cam,
Hunting partner trust issues,
Baiting migratory birds,


And that's just a partial list from the past 12 months.

Pretty ambitious for a newbe that knew nothing about hunting until this past year.




April 2016

But in


December of 2014
you say;

September 2016;




Your story has holes in it my friend.
Super sleuth! Quite the breach in integrity. Sorry to see that.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:00 AM
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You ask kind of an odd question in light of this statement you made back in September of last year.



First you say it's illegal, then you think it's illegal, then you ask what we do, {to break the law}
You don't see a problem with that?

For a 24 year old collage graduate/newbe hunter you ask a lot of hot button questions.

Gifting landowners,
Shooting feral horses,
Jack Lighting,
buying a smuggled rifle
using drones for hunting,
Shooting next to someone's RV,
Why members get banned,
Someone messing with your trail cam,
Hunting partner trust issues,
Baiting migratory birds,


And that's just a partial list from the past 12 months.

Pretty ambitious for a newbe that knew nothing about hunting until this past year.




April 2016

But in


December of 2014
you say;

September 2016;




Your story has holes in it my friend.
First I would love to congratulate you on how much spare time you have on your hands, retired PI?

Secondly, not a good ex Private Investigator because you don't look at the context. Let me explain...

The guiding in Texas was for saltwater fishing out of Galveston for a smaller company.

December 2014 posting is related to me hunting in Texas, that is not Alberta so you cannot include that to my experience when the pigs here are not the same. In addition to that, going on a pig hunt and not shooting anything isn't much experience for me.

I think there is a deeper issue that you have, looking for every single thing you could prosecute me for.
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You ask kind of an odd question in light of this statement you made back in September of last year.



First you say it's illegal, then you think it's illegal, then you ask what we do, {to break the law}
You don't see a problem with that?

For a 24 year old collage graduate/newbe hunter you ask a lot of hot button questions.

Gifting landowners,
Shooting feral horses,
Jack Lighting,
buying a smuggled rifle
using drones for hunting,
Shooting next to someone's RV,
Why members get banned,
Someone messing with your trail cam,
Hunting partner trust issues,
Baiting migratory birds,


And that's just a partial list from the past 12 months.

Pretty ambitious for a newbe that knew nothing about hunting until this past year.




April 2016

But in


December of 2014
you say;

September 2016;




Your story has holes in it my friend.
Thank you for pointing this out Keg!
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Thank you for pointing this out Keg!
Bravo! Taking things out of context.
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