Porcupines!!!!!!!

[calgarychef]

No choke the part about bringing the porkies to the neighbours was tongue in cheek. I guess you didn't get that, must not be able to understand from on top of your high horse. And by the way the blanket doesn't take ALL of the quills out and I'm sure the porky can still defend itself quite well. I don't know how you think bringing cats into the conversation makes any sense, but hey who am I to judge?

You want to kill porkies go ahead, I never said you shouldn't , I said I probably won't. Sheesh, take a pill.

[FlyTrapper]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

No choke the part about bringing the porkies to the neighbours was tongue in cheek. I guess you didn't get that, must not be able to understand from on top of your high horse. And by the way the blanket doesn't take ALL of the quills out and I'm sure the porky can still defend itself quite well. I don't know how you think bringing cats into the conversation makes any sense, but hey who am I to judge?

You want to kill porkies go ahead, I never said you shouldn't , I said I probably won't. Sheesh, take a pill.

I agree with Calgarychef here. You no what, I'm not saying you can't kill them, I just think it causes disrespect to the animal. Imagine you are walking around and doing something you always do (which may bug a neighbor in some way) and all of a sudden, BAM, there's a bullet in you?! Just doesn't seem fair to me, if your dog is having issues with it, relocate the animal.. But like I said, not saying you can't do it, just putting in my thoughts.

["No Choke"Lord Walsingham]

Flytrapper,

As per statements made by yourself in your thread "New Gun" I am aware you are interested in Hunting and are 14 years of age. As such, I understand why your statements here are what they are. If and when you harvest your first game animal, perhaps you will then understand how one can have great respect for and care deeply about an animal one Hunts. I wish you all the best in life and for many happy and safe years afield should you choose to step foot there in the future.

One bit of wisdom that I shall offer you concerning rural life is that relocating problem wildlife onto the property of a neighbour is not good, in fact it is a highly disreputable tact to take. If such an action were discovered, it may well lead to serious problems with said neighbour in the future. In short - this is highly unethical behaviour.

CalgaryChef,

I was operating under the auspices of you being a grown adult. I see I was off base on the matter. I too was having some fun in my reply to yourself and I get the intent of your prior post. The cat mention was a part of this as well as linked to the mutilation aspect as mentioned in doing so. None the less, stating you are "against" something implies you have a problem with others conducting said activity and believe such acivity should not occur and/or be illegal. This seems especially so when seperate mention is made of your own actions on the matter as demonstrated by your closing statement in your first post on this thread.

As you can see by reading the Forum Rules/Preamble there are many people of all ages (a high number of whom are children) whom read posts here on Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum. As such, I believe responsibility and Ethics should be highlighted at all times. FlyTrapper (a young urbanite with an interest in the Outdoors) seemed to believe what you stated as per relocation on to a neighbours property as actually reasonable where as you and I know perfectly well how terrible that is. Alas, we are not the only ones reading this Forum.

Your actions in this thread meet the definition of an internet troll to be sure -

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

It is clear that the intent of this thread as concieved by the Original Poster is to recieve Porcupine elements for craft purposes and as such is pro-Porcupine harvest. You may not care about the species as a game animal (yes, I know it is not regulated as a game animal in Alberta). On the other hand, one of my favourite things about Alberta is that they may be freely harvested, unlike in many other jurisdiction such as British Columbia. Perhaps you would be better served to relocate to such a jurisdiction. Same goes for others who wish to besmirch Porcupine harvest.

It is a rarified interest for the most part and I am very exciting to read a thread on the topic. Hopefully this thread and others like it will be left alone in the future to proceed pleasantly.

[pickrel pat]

Originally Posted by "No Choke"Lord Walsingham

Flytrapper,

As per statements made by yourself in your thread "New Gun" I am aware you are interested in Hunting and are 14 years of age. As such, I understand why your statements here are what they are. If and when you harvest your first game animal, perhaps you will then understand how one can have great respect for and care deeply about an animal one Hunts. I wish you all the best in life and for many happy and safe years afield should you choose to step foot there in the future.

One bit of wisdom that I shall offer you concerning rural life is that relocating problem wildlife onto the property of a neighbour is not good, in fact it is a highly disreputable tact to take. If such an action were discovered, it may well lead to serious problems with said neighbour in the future. In short - this is highly unethical behaviour.

CalgaryChef,

I was operating under the auspices of you being a grown adult. I see I was off base on the matter. I too was having some fun in my reply to yourself and I get the intent of your prior post. The cat mention was a part of this as well as linked to the mutilation aspect as mentioned in doing so. None the less, stating you are "against" something implies you have a problem with others conducting said activity and believe such acivity should not occur and/or be illegal. This seems especially so when seperate mention is made of your own actions on the matter as demonstrated by your closing statement in your first post on this thread.

As you can see by reading the Forum Rules/Preamble there are many people of all ages (a high number of whom are children) whom read posts here on Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum. As such, I believe responsibility and Ethics should be highlighted at all times. FlyTrapper (a young urbanite with an interest in the Outdoors) seemed to believe what you stated as per relocation on to a neighbours property as actually reasonable where as you and I know perfectly well how terrible that is. Alas, we are not the only ones reading this Forum.

Your actions in this thread meet the definition of an internet troll to be sure -

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

It is clear that the intent of this thread as concieved by the Original Poster is to recieve Porcupine elements for craft purposes and as such is pro-Porcupine harvest. You may not care about the species as a game animal (yes, I know it is not regulated as a game animal in Alberta). On the other hand, one of my favourite things about Alberta is that they may be freely harvested, unlike in many other jurisdiction such as British Columbia. Perhaps you would be better served to relocate to such a jurisdiction. Same goes for others who wish to besmirch Porcupine harvest.

It is a rarified interest for the most part and I am very exciting to read a thread on the topic. Hopefully this thread and others like it will be left alone in the future to proceed pleasantly.

Ummm....ummmm.....nevermind.

[Red Bullets]

What disturbs me most about this porcupine issue is:

Because certain animals are not designated as game animals or are not regulated does not mean those "un"-game animals can be killed at leisure.
I understand controlling problem animals but some people are suggesting to blast away at all they see. Sort of a kill 'em all attitude. Bad suggestions IMO.
These are the same people that in ten years will be complaining they can't figure out why they don't see any wildlife around.

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I will practice due diligence in understanding the balances in nature that my actions may have impact on.
I will walk softly with a direction. Red Bullets

["No Choke"Lord Walsingham]

Originally Posted by Red Bullets

What disturbs me most about this porcupine issue is:

Because certain animals are not designated as game animals or are not regulated does not mean those "un"-game animals can be killed at leisure.
I understand controlling problem animals but some people are suggesting to blast away at all they see. Sort of a kill 'em all attitude. Bad suggestions IMO.
These are the same people that in ten years will be complaining they can't figure out why they don't see any wildlife around.

This is a great point. (Hence my "Please do Harvest with caution, Ethics and RESPECT FOR GAME PERSUED" statement earlier in the thread.)

Alot of fun and silliness has been had on this thread, yet one of the finest points to keep in mind is to not extirpate nor harvest much too heavily. Too many should definitely not be taken from a single location.

None the less I do not believe that Porcupines are anywhere near being at risk of extirpation anywhere in Alberta as of this writing. Porcupine new borns have a fine survival rate as they are quite functional (quills included) within hours of birth. Additionally the adults of the species appear to reproduce effectively. Furthermore, this is a species persued by few predators, Human or animal. Most Hunters do not take them even when presented as a target of opportunity.

As such, Porcupines are an underutilized resource here in Alberta. Contrast this with species that are highly regulated (rightly so) such as Pronghorn Antelope, Mountain Goat or even Turkey. If there were no regulations concerning these Big Game species, extirpation would be gauranteed in a single season!

The solution is to take to porcupines you can use and share the wealth of harvest with others where possible. Epecially if one kills a Porcupine as a pest or simply eats them but does not utilize their hide/quills then providing them to someone such as our Original Poster would certainly not be harmful to say the least.

[FlyTrapper]

Originally Posted by "No Choke"Lord Walsingham

Flytrapper,

As per statements made by yourself in your thread "New Gun" I am aware you are interested in Hunting and are 14 years of age. As such, I understand why your statements here are what they are. If and when you harvest your first game animal, perhaps you will then understand how one can have great respect for and care deeply about an animal one Hunts. I wish you all the best in life and for many happy and safe years afield should you choose to step foot there in the future.

One bit of wisdom that I shall offer you concerning rural life is that relocating problem wildlife onto the property of a neighbour is not good, in fact it is a highly disreputable tact to take. If such an action were discovered, it may well lead to serious problems with said neighbour in the future. In short - this is highly unethical behaviour.

CalgaryChef,

I was operating under the auspices of you being a grown adult. I see I was off base on the matter. I too was having some fun in my reply to yourself and I get the intent of your prior post. The cat mention was a part of this as well as linked to the mutilation aspect as mentioned in doing so. None the less, stating you are "against" something implies you have a problem with others conducting said activity and believe such acivity should not occur and/or be illegal. This seems especially so when seperate mention is made of your own actions on the matter as demonstrated by your closing statement in your first post on this thread.

As you can see by reading the Forum Rules/Preamble there are many people of all ages (a high number of whom are children) whom read posts here on Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum. As such, I believe responsibility and Ethics should be highlighted at all times. FlyTrapper (a young urbanite with an interest in the Outdoors) seemed to believe what you stated as per relocation on to a neighbours property as actually reasonable where as you and I know perfectly well how terrible that is. Alas, we are not the only ones reading this Forum.

Your actions in this thread meet the definition of an internet troll to be sure -

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

It is clear that the intent of this thread as concieved by the Original Poster is to recieve Porcupine elements for craft purposes and as such is pro-Porcupine harvest. You may not care about the species as a game animal (yes, I know it is not regulated as a game animal in Alberta). On the other hand, one of my favourite things about Alberta is that they may be freely harvested, unlike in many other jurisdiction such as British Columbia. Perhaps you would be better served to relocate to such a jurisdiction. Same goes for others who wish to besmirch Porcupine harvest.

It is a rarified interest for the most part and I am very exciting to read a thread on the topic. Hopefully this thread and others like it will be left alone in the future to proceed pleasantly.

Well I still do not agree fully but I can see where you are coming from. And thank you for the wishes!

[Juggernaut]

I will kill a porcupine without hesitation IF there is a risk for a dog being injured. But never if there are no dogs around. Letting your dog get hammered by a porcupine to "teach it a lesson" could destroy it's hunting aggression on other animals and make it timid to flush.

7 porcupines vs 1 dog.... I have never seen a gang of porcupines... what color bandanas do they wear?