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09-18-2017, 12:52 AM
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An Odd Request...Does anyone read handwritten Polish?
Wondering if any of our members can read handwritten polish? It might be russian too. The reason for my request is I have to old pictures with writing on the back of them. They have importance to my family tree.
If you do read either of these languages maybe I could PM you a picture of the writing.
I unfortunately don't read either language. I thought the AO forums might have a translator resource. Couldn't find a translator online that would work with the pictures.
Thanks
Red Bullets
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09-18-2017, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Bullets
Wondering if any of our members can read handwritten polish? It might be russian too. The reason for my request is I have to old pictures with writing on the back of them. They have importance to my family tree.
If you do read either of these languages maybe I could PM you a picture of the writing.
I unfortunately don't read either language. I thought the AO forums might have a translator resource. Couldn't find a translator online that would work with the pictures.
Thanks
Red Bullets
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sand the pict thx
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09-18-2017, 12:11 PM
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Wasn't sure how to post a pic in a PM so I will just post them here and hopefully someone is able to PM me the translations. Thanks for the responses.
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This country was started by voyagers whose young lives were swept away by the currents of the rivers for ten cents a day... just for the vanity of the European's beaver hats. ~ Red Bullets
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09-18-2017, 12:16 PM
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Seeing the "i" in the writing I know it is not Russian...the Russian alphabet does not have an "i"....could be Polish...they are quite similar so someone who could read either one should be able to translate...I lost my Russian reading ability year's ago.
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09-18-2017, 12:18 PM
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That would be Ukrainian language
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09-18-2017, 12:20 PM
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I did make out "Photographs" on the top of the second picture
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09-18-2017, 12:55 PM
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You could try typing it into google translate.
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09-18-2017, 04:35 PM
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That isn't Russian or polish, that looks ukranian to me.
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09-18-2017, 04:42 PM
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on a smartphone google translate lets you hover the camera over the image and it tries to translate it right on the phone screen. give give that a try. probably wont work with hand written stuff but worth a shot.
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09-18-2017, 04:43 PM
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Russian and Ukrainian are both written in the Cyrillic alphabet, an eastern alphabet that has no similarity to our own. This writing is not in Cyrillic, therefore it is neither Russian nor Ukrainian. I recognize a few words that may be Polish, but my reading of Polish is limited to typed text. I could not read either of my parents' Polish writing.
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09-18-2017, 04:47 PM
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I agree with KGB. With the exception of a single letter "i", all other letters are proper handwritten Cyrillic, maybe "K" is written as a Latin version too, hard to see .
Looks like Ukrainian to me, at least few words I can make out, like "Просимо", name "Иванку" sounds Ukrainian as well.
Or some other Slavic language, but not Russian
Last edited by ak-71; 09-18-2017 at 05:07 PM.
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09-18-2017, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bullets
Wasn't sure how to post a pic in a PM so I will just post them here and hopefully someone is able to PM me the translations. Thanks for the responses.
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Possibly one of the Balkans states? Any former CF members here recognize the script?
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09-18-2017, 04:53 PM
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Slovakian
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09-18-2017, 08:03 PM
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Sent to a friend who's fluent in polish and Slovak, and knows something of most Slavic languages. I'll let you know either in a post or pm.
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09-18-2017, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jednastka
Russian and Ukrainian are both written in the Cyrillic alphabet, an eastern alphabet that has no similarity to our own. This writing is not in Cyrillic, therefore it is neither Russian nor Ukrainian. I recognize a few words that may be Polish, but my reading of Polish is limited to typed text. I could not read either of my parents' Polish writing.
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I will bet you $50 just for the heck of it that it is written in a perfect Cyrillic alphabet. I'm sure that AK -71 will throw in another $50!
We will then go and have a few shots of vodka - and you are invited!
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09-18-2017, 09:37 PM
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What about serbo-croat
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09-18-2017, 09:41 PM
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Its not in Slovak for sure. We use latin alphabet.
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09-18-2017, 10:10 PM
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It seems that the letter m has a line above it in several od the words. I believe these are called a macron
Is this wtitten in Kurrent?
Kurrent is an old form of German-language handwriting based on late medieval cursive writing, also known as Kurrentschrift, Alte Deutsche Schrift ("old German script") and German cursive. Over the history of its use into the first part of the 20th century, many individual letters acquired variant forms.
Wiki link here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurrent
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09-18-2017, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB
I will bet you $50 just for the heck of it that it is written in a perfect Cyrillic alphabet. I'm sure that AK -71 will throw in another $50!
We will then go and have a few shots of vodka - and you are invited!
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That would be highly unethical of me, but free 50$ and vodka...
Ukrainian is the only language using "i" along with Cyrillic alphabet that I can think of.
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09-18-2017, 10:16 PM
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my vote is for ukrainian as well. polish is using latin alphabet, this is cyrillic.
btw "i" that is "not russian" as someone mentioned - all depends on the date of the writing. for a while cyrillic had both "i" and "и".
to the OP - sorry while i can understand spoken ukrainian and even can read some, i'm not 100 fluent, and with the quality of the photos i can't be much help
ak-71, belarussian language also using "i". probably some eastern slavik languages as well. maybe bulgarian...
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09-18-2017, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ak77
my vote is for ukrainian as well. polish is using latin alphabet, this is cyrillic.
btw "i" that is "not russian" as someone mentioned - all depends on the date of the writing. for a while cyrillic had both "i" and "и".
to the OP - sorry while i can understand spoken ukrainian and even can read some, i'm not 100 fluent, and with the quality of the photos i can't be much help
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I think Ukrainian still use "i". Older Russian alphabet used another funny letter absent in this text.
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09-18-2017, 10:25 PM
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Ok this is fun...
In Russian cursive, as well as in some others based on the Cyrillic script (for example, Bulgarian), a lowercase Т looks like a lowercase m, and a macron is often used to distinguish it from Ш, which looks like a lowercase w (see Т). Some writers also underline the letter ш to reduce ambiguity further.
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09-18-2017, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ak77
my vote is for ukrainian as well. polish is using latin alphabet, this is cyrillic.
btw "i" that is "not russian" as someone mentioned - all depends on the date of the writing. for a while cyrillic had both "i" and "и".
to the OP - sorry while i can understand spoken ukrainian and even can read some, i'm not 100 fluent, and with the quality of the photos i can't be much help
ak-71, belarussian language also using "i". probably some eastern slavik languages as well. maybe bulgarian...
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You are right about Belarussian, Bulgarian doesn't use "i", I just looked it up.
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09-18-2017, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ak-71
You are right about Belarussian, Bulgarian doesn't use "i", I just looked it up.
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lol, i'm from belarus, i should know
ukrainian actually using both "i" and "и" and they even sound differently.
OP, the first letter is actually more legible. seems like regular correspondence between friends or family members.
"Comrade Ivan(ko), i hope this letter finds you and your family in good health..." kind of deal.
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09-18-2017, 10:35 PM
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Such an innocent post, yet it uncovered most of FSB agents stationed in Alberta
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09-18-2017, 11:06 PM
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doh, i think those agents are losing qualifications if they fall for something so simple and innocent.
lol
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09-18-2017, 11:39 PM
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Ok we will take AK77 into the vodka party . He is one of us....
But only one condition: he is bringing the caviar....
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09-19-2017, 12:33 AM
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Thanks for the dialogue folks. I thought it might be written in ukrainian so I will see if a ukrainian minister I know can read the notes.
Interesting how two 100+ year old handwritten messages of unknown family origin bring together a brothership of vodka and caviar in the new millennium.
Can I come? I will bring the borscht for borscht/vodka shooters and sauerkraut perogies.
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09-19-2017, 06:22 AM
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09-19-2017, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bullets
Thanks for the dialogue folks. I thought it might be written in ukrainian so I will see if a ukrainian minister I know can read the notes.
Interesting how two 100+ year old handwritten messages of unknown family origin bring together a brothership of vodka and caviar in the new millennium.
Can I come? I will bring the borscht for borscht/vodka shooters and sauerkraut perogies.
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Well let's see: I'm in Edmonton and AK-71 is in Calgary, we don't know where AK77 is.... yeah I think we can meet at your place in central Alberta. I do like borscht a lot!! It's all depends on how RED are your bullets, LOL!!
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