BC trades away outdoor recreation rights to continue industrial encroachment in the Peace region

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Wrote Conroy repeatedly. Crickets.

Word I am getting is that they are somewhat taken aback and scared of the level of backlash this has caused. Good. They should be!

Nog

We haven’t got any response from letters or emails from her, just the sit down GOABC had with her a few weeks ago.

The update we got this morning now said there likely won’t be an announcement until April 22nd from Conroy and the Gov. of BC.

There was some hope last week I guess, but FN is not happy with what was proposed and it’s off the table now. From my take it’s looking like FN are pushing for exactly what was initially proposed, and that’s what they’re going to get

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

There was some hope last week I guess, but FN is not happy with what was proposed and it’s off the table now. From my take it’s looking like FN are pushing for exactly what was initially proposed, and that’s what they’re going to get

Then it's off to Court we go...

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Then it's off to Court we go...

Well sir tomorrow is supposed to be the day. I guess I can expect another sleepless night waiting for the government to decide my fate

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

Well sir tomorrow is supposed to be the day. I guess I can expect another sleepless night waiting for the government to decide my fate

Heard the same on this end...

Fingers Crossed...

Nog

[rk4]

Any news today?

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by rk4

Any news today?

Nope. They put it off yet again.
Was supposed to be no later than today so they can proceed with the LEH intel next week.
My bet says they will announce Friday so they can quickly slither back under their rocks for the weekend...

Nog

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Nope. They put it off yet again.
Was supposed to be no later than today so they can proceed with the LEH intel next week.
My bet says they will announce Friday so they can quickly slither back under their rocks for the weekend...

Nog

That’s typical govt practice isn’t it?

[IronNoggin]

Long since past the date when the new Regs should have been out.

Questions going unanswered.

A bit of a hint was just posted on the BC Hunting FB site:



https://www.facebook.com/groups/ther...ingandfishing/

[IronNoggin]

This just in:

May 12, 2022

Sean Olmstead, President
Scott Ellis, Executive Director and CEO
Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia
103-19140 28th Avenue
Surrey, British Columbia V3Z 6M3

Dear Sean Olmstead and Scott Ellis:

Thank you for your letters of March 11, 2022, and March 28, 2022, regarding the Peace Region hunting regulation change proposals that had been open for public engagement. The Province of British Columbia appreciates the efforts made by guide outfitters in advancing reconciliation with Indigenous Nations, and the contributions made by guide outfitting in generating economic activity for our rural and remote areas.

The engagement process has now concluded, and we are preparing for a decision which will be finalized shortly. I am aware of the operational challenges your members are facing in the interim. Please appreciate that this complex work is part of meaningful reconciliation with Treaty 8 First Nations and we are ensuring they have input into wildlife management decisions on their traditional territory.

The hunting regulation changes are an interim measure and part of a broader package of actions to improve wildlife stewardship, uphold Treaty rights, and enhance habitat conservation. Over the next two years, the Province and the Treaty 8 First Nations will work together to develop an approach to wildlife co-management that improves our shared understanding and management of the wildlife resources in a manner consistent with the Together for Wildlife Strategy.

Thank you for your continued engagement with David Skerik, Director, Strategic Initiatives, on this file; we are grateful for your input. If you have further information to share, please email David.Skerik@gov.bc.ca.

Again, thank you for writing to share your concerns.


Sincerely,
Katrine Conroy Minister
Ministry of Forests Office of the Minister Mailing Address:
PO Box 9049 Stn Prov Govt
Victoria, BC V8W 9E2
Tel: 250 387-6240
Fax: 250 387-1040
Website: www.gov.bc.ca/for

pc: Honourable John Horgan, Province of British Columbia
Mike Hykaway, A/Assistant Deputy Minister, North Area, Ministry of Forests
David Skerik, Director, Strategic Initiatives, Northeast Region, Ministry of Forests

https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/...ORRsx3EyTb66is

[Torkdiesel]

So tomorrow is apparently the day…..

Katrine Conroy the Minister is supposed to make a public address and roll out the new framework.

From the somber announcement we got today regarding “changes” coming but no specifics I’m guessing it’s going to be detrimental to some of us in the north east

[Torkdiesel]

A day early…..

I’m only 50% Screwed

https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/for...vb_cIj4XHU6ihQ

[IronNoggin]

Hunting closures, regulation changes announced in Northeast B.C.

https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/for...ast-bc-5389458

Lawyer says Lock & Load...

[IronNoggin]

Changes to hunting regulations support reconciliation, wildlife stewardship

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022FOR0033-000792

"These decisions were informed by extensive engagement with the public, First Nations, the Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia and the BC Wildlife Federation. "

All but one of which told them NO DAMN WAY!!

What a load of pure bovine excrement!!!

Nog

[Torkdiesel]

They forgot to mention closing caribou completely in that good news feel good announcement!

I love how they claim they reached a decision in collaboration with First Nations and Guide Outfitters. The First Nations stated their demands and the government told us to pile sand and gave them everything they wanted.

And before anyone claims this wasn’t what First Nations wanted we had a meeting with them where they could have backed off and this wouldn’t have happened. They said no !

[IronNoggin]

B.C. turns its back on science with changes to wildlife management

The government of British Columbia has abandoned science-based wildlife with its decision to curtail hunting in the Peace-Liard region.

Caribou hunting will be banned and moose hunting severely curtailed over roughly 22 per cent of the province under new regulations released this week.

What the government press release omits is that B.C. has also negotiated a deal that will see 195 forestry, oil and gas projects proceed in the traditional territory of the Blueberry River First Nation. Another 20 industrial projects in Blueberry territory are still up for negotiation.

The new regulation is a direct response to last year’s Yahey v British Columbia decision by the B.C. Supreme Court, which ruled that the Treaty 8 rights of the Blueberry First Nation had been infringed by the cumulative impacts of industrial development.

​“The government has allowed Treaty 8 territories to be damaged by industrial development, but rather than address that problem, B.C. has opted to imposed hunting regulations that have no basis in science,” said B.C. Wildlife Federation Executive Director Jesse Zeman.

https://bcwf.bc.ca/b-c-turns-its-bac...fe-management/

[IronNoggin]

Jesse Zeeman speaks out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcTXxkhomOo

[59whiskers]

If the NDP get elected in Alberta in the next provincial election there is no doubt we could see the same problem here. What a load of Crap.

[IronNoggin]

B.C. makes contentious change to moose, caribou hunt in northeast

B.C. has made sweeping changes to moose and caribou hunts in the Peace Region, a move that has the support of some local First Nations while hunting groups are firmly opposed.

On Thursday, the province announced it would close all caribou hunts in the northeast region of the province while making broad changes to the moose hunting season, including the closure of the hunt during August for at least one year.

However, conservationists and members of the hunting community who have been firmly opposed to the changes since they were proposed months ago said the province's decision is a substantial overstep that could put guide outfitters out of business.

Jesse Zeman, executive director with the B.C. Wildlife Federation, says the regulations are too broad and don't adequately address issues raised in the supreme court ruling about the "cumulative effects" of industrial development.

"The province has made these changes across the entire region, including places where there are no cumulative effects," said Zeman, noting that the rules will apply to extremely remote hunting locations only accessible by float plane or horse back.

"Rather than dealing with issues around cumulative effects — oil and gas, logging, Site C — instead, they said we're just going to get resident hunters out of this area," he added.

Advocacy group the B.C. Backcountry Hunters and Anglers said the changes are misaligned with B.C.'s own current wildlife data, which "show an abundant moose population in the region and a sustainable harvest rate for both moose and caribou."

"Science is not playing a role in the outcome of wildlife conservation in B.C.," said Zeman. "The province has nuked significant parts of the landscape in the Peace."

"Hunting regulations are not going to fix these problems," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ast/ar-AAXEHoJ

[IronNoggin]

I just now received some very grim news.
The folks that I had been working with on this file have decided not to pursue the matter legally.
They cited several reasons, the foremost being they believe the case is not winnable.

I am beyond frustrated at this point.

If anyone has any other options or ideas I would be all ears.
More than willing to throw what I can in terms of time & energy towards getting this BS overturned.

Really REALLY Bummed Out!
Nog

[IronNoggin]

Politics not science driving moose hunt changes

B.C.’s hunting and wildlife community says politics, not science, is driving the province’s changes to caribou and moose hunting regulations in the Peace Region.

The government announced last week it was scrapping open season on moose hunting in the Peace – traditionally from Aug. 15 to Oct. 31 – and implementing limited entry hunting rules that would include full closures in August and early October. Caribou hunts in the region were closed entirely.

But wildlife stewardship and habitat conservation aren’t the government’s primary consideration, said Jesse Zeman, executive director of the BC Wildlife Federation.

https://northernbeat.ca/opinion/poli...s-say-critics/

[CDNOutdoorsman]

this will surely lead to increased poaching, you can bet your last $ on that.

[IronNoggin]

First Nations weigh in on new Northeast hunting regulations

It undermines the new path forward that we were promised, say chiefs

"The regulations create disproportionate impacts among Treaty 8 Nations and for local residents."

"Doig River First Nation, Halfway River First Nation, Prophet River First Nation and West Moberly First Nations," the statement went on to say, "all have grave concerns about these regulations."

“The recent amendments to the hunting regulations do not represent what we had hoped to achieve when we entered into these discussions with the Province," said Doig River chief Trevor Makadahay.

"Right from the start we presented options to the Province for limiting impacts on local hunters. They were all rejected."

"The regulatory changes are a unilateral action of the Minister of Forests," added Prophet River chief Valerie Askoty, "that do not reflect the proposals advanced by Treaty 8 First Nations."

https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/for...ations-5423900

Smoke and mirrors as the FN already know that the government cannot directly give the locals more opportunity, yet they act like they are the one that are pushing for it. Just ask what Chief Roland Wilson got when these restrictions came out..... immediately he and his band (West Moberly) dropped the court challenge against Site C. Prophet River was one for the three bands who pushed for this, along with West Moberly and Saulteaux...

What a cluster this government has created...

Nog

[marky_mark]

Ha they will throw the govt under the bus because the govt won’t do or say anything back to them lol
They have them by the nuts

[IronNoggin]

MLA introduces bill promoting science-based hunting regs

Kootenay East MLA Tom Shypitka today introduced the Wildlife Amendment Act, a private member’s bill that would lay the groundwork for a new independent funding model for wildlife and habitat management

“This model would be eligible to receive funding and revenue from the different levels of government, including municipal, provincial, federal, and Indigenous governments. This legislation would ensure that 100 per cent of the revenue from licences, as well as fees from hunting and other forms of land use, such as stakeholder, philanthropy, and industry usage, would all go towards funding wildlife and habitat management,” said Shypitka (pictured above).

The bill’s proposed funding model is partially distanced from the government and would ensure decisions on regulations are science-based and in the best interest of wildlife viewers, hunters, hikers, and other outdoor enthusiasts in British Columbia.

“This bill will be the foundational element that will allow for better data collection, mapping, and identifying of critical wildlife areas among other benefits. Such improvements, in turn, will lead to science-based decision-making to protect our wildlife and habitat for generations to come,” added Shypitka.

https://www.e-know.ca/regions/east-k...-hunting-regs/