What is wrong with people???

[sns2]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

The simple fact remains, that most people that have tried drugs or alcohol, did not become addicted. People make the choice to try a substance, and then to abuse it until it becomes an addiction. Once they become addicted, then things change, but it's about choices to get to that point.

Truth^^^

Unfortunately, those refugees never made a choice to live under a dictator, be caught in a civil war, and face death if they stayed. DonK, you are to be applauded.

[winged1]

Originally Posted by ex811

So a terrorist shooting in the US just occurred the day after Calgarians learn that about 300 residences (to date) will be made available, free of course, to the Syrian refugee's coming to Calgary.
If I was a homeless/out of work Calgarian and see the City/landlords suddenly make accomodations available to these refugee's, I might be a little pizzed. Then you learn about the terrorists shootings in the US...that simply pizzed turns to utter frustration.

I don't agree with the method they choose to vent, but I can see why people are so frustrated.

I'd be pizzed too, but not with the needy, with those that judge who gets help. It's a distorted perspective, and it's not motivation to graffiti hate slogans. These are common thugs that need to be reprimanded.

Drugs are the perverbial slippery slope. You need the disposition to walk the path, and once on it, it's hell. Society as we know it will always have a fringe element. Even if we elevate thier status, the void they left will soon be filled. You cannot eliminate homelessness, unless we increased the capacity of our jails and hospitals.

[notpoliticallycorrect]

Originally Posted by sns2

Truth^^^

Unfortunately, those refugees never made a choice to live under a dictator, be caught in a civil war, and face death if they stayed. DonK, you are to be applauded.

Yeh but they made the choice to run and not fight, now they are our problem.

[Don K]

Originally Posted by notpoliticallycorrect

Yeh but they made the choice to run and not fight, now they are our problem.

Had to fight when you have no weapons (or very few) and watch your families being butchered in front of you... I thnk I'd grab my family and head for greener pastures too. Be grateful you were born into the world in a country like ours and not some s**t hole 3rd world country...

[Mistagin]

Have you ever been over there Don?

I have, so has my son (CF). The amount and types of weapons in the hands of 'ordinary' people in many places in the ME makes the USA look unarmed. OF course, in Syria Bashar disarmed the common folk so they couldn't rise up - how'd that work out for him.

Apparently Lebanon is relatively unarmed (common folk) but how many 'terrorist' groups are operating there - they seem to be able to get arms pretty easily.

We had tea with a Bedouin Seikh and his family in Jordan (lots of family), really nice, friendly guys. Since I'm kinda tuned in to look for weapons I saw guns everywhere, and they weren't locked up and unloaded. In fact, several of his boys accompanied us on an excursion as our protectors. Lotsa guns. Of course the military was everywhere too. We had armed 'escorts' all over the place in Egypt and Jordan. But not in Israel; there soldiers are everywhere - and their guns are everywhere - locked and loaded ready to go at any time.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Don K

Merry Xmas

Its Christmas Don and always has been. Removing that part of a great season is contrary to the post you made very well.

I do not agree with many of the things that you obviously believe are facts in your statements, but I do applaud your compassion and intolerance for indescriminate hate. I cannot help but see that you have wholesale bought into the garbage that our media and bias western news sources have irresponsibly fed you.

The refugees we are working to take are not predominately Christian, they are not capable of quickly adapting to our society, they have not indicated that they are coming to be Canadian, and they are coming at a great expense to us so we should have great expectation.

When my family immigrated they came at there own expense without consideration for there socio-economic status, nor their need for refuge. They came to become Canadian, they came to create their own means and they fought in all the confilcts that identified them as patriots.

I am against Canada shamefully treating our soldiers, bypassing the meager and inadequate processes we normally have to vet immigrants and displacing current Canadian needs to help these people. This said, I am not against helping these people through other means than Government projects that amount to nothing more that a select few pompous twits trying to gains more twitter fans.

That all said, I'd also like to throw the cowardly racists that feel a swastika and racial slurs in spray paint are effective methods of apposing our governments actions into jail for a period of time required to change their mind.

[762Russian]

The pair of idiots in question.

[Crankbait]

So it was Muslims after all like rugatika pointed out.

[6.5x47]

Originally Posted by rugatika

All is not always what it appears to be. Might not be the case in this instance...but not exactly unheard of either.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2483...robert-spencer

Exactly what's going on. These people never get caught.....agent provocateur. There will be new laws in place, like in quebec, so if and when things do get out of hand nobody will have the nerve to speak out. EPS probably already forming a new division and getting closer to their requested 15milion of funding.

[winged1]

Well that's as clear as mud.

[whiteout]

Don, you have a PM.

[58thecat]

People!

Spend four days hanging out in the woods etc with my lab no issues, go into town and I shake my head.

[Angus81]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Its Christmas Don and always has been. Removing that part of a great season is contrary to the post you made very well.

I do not agree with many of the things that you obviously believe are facts in your statements, but I do applaud your compassion and intolerance for indescriminate hate. I cannot help but see that you have wholesale bought into the garbage that our media and bias western news sources have irresponsibly fed you.

The refugees we are working to take are not predominately Christian, they are not capable of quickly adapting to our society, they have not indicated that they are coming to be Canadian, and they are coming at a great expense to us so we should have great expectation.

When my family immigrated they came at there own expense without consideration for there socio-economic status, nor their need for refuge. They came to become Canadian, they came to create their own means and they fought in all the confilcts that identified them as patriots.

I am against Canada shamefully treating our soldiers, bypassing the meager and inadequate processes we normally have to vet immigrants and displacing current Canadian needs to help these people. This said, I am not against helping these people through other means than Government projects that amount to nothing more that a select few pompous twits trying to gains more twitter fans.

That all said, I'd also like to throw the cowardly racists that feel a swastika and racial slurs in spray paint are effective methods of apposing our governments actions into jail for a period of time required to change their mind.

X2

[histyle]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Its Christmas Don and always has been. Removing that part of a great season is contrary to the post you made very well.

I do not agree with many of the things that you obviously believe are facts in your statements, but I do applaud your compassion and intolerance for indescriminate hate. I cannot help but see that you have wholesale bought into the garbage that our media and bias western news sources have irresponsibly fed you.

The refugees we are working to take are not predominately Christian, they are not capable of quickly adapting to our society, they have not indicated that they are coming to be Canadian, and they are coming at a great expense to us so we should have great expectation.

When my family immigrated they came at there own expense without consideration for there socio-economic status, nor their need for refuge. They came to become Canadian, they came to create their own means and they fought in all the confilcts that identified them as patriots.

I am against Canada shamefully treating our soldiers, bypassing the meager and inadequate processes we normally have to vet immigrants and displacing current Canadian needs to help these people. This said, I am not against helping these people through other means than Government projects that amount to nothing more that a select few pompous twits trying to gains more twitter fans.

That all said, I'd also like to throw the cowardly racists that feel a swastika and racial slurs in spray paint are effective methods of apposing our governments actions into jail for a period of time required to change their mind.

X3. This is what a civil debate looks like.

[valley]

WOW awesome

[Hagalaz]

Originally Posted by whiteout

The two companies that are offering subsidized and free (for the first three months) rent are private businesses. No money is coming out of your pocket to pay for it and they are free to rent to whoever they want and for whatever price they want.

That is not the point. The point is that these free residences are for refugees only. What about the previously mentioned Canadian homeless? Why aren't they being given free housing? People get irritated when they see that the refugees coming here are going to be treated better than down on their luck Canadians are being treated.

[pinelakeperch]

Originally Posted by Don K

We do need to be selective. The families we are helping with have been on a wait list since 2012... I didn't realize that there is such a huge number of people waiting to go somewhere, good people that can and will do good things, that can't get out as countries have been slow to open up.

We have our own problems here, I understand that, and our social programs don't need excess pressure. We have so many in our country that are unwilling to make a diference or get off their asses to support themselves. Unemployment IS rising, yet there ARE EMPLOYERS THAT CAN'T FIND PEOPLE TO FILL JOBS... Why? Because so many of 'us' are either too lazy or too good to fill these not high paying, not very 'attractive' jobs.

As far as refugees from Syria, most were educated and affluent as this country was a decent place until the radical Muslims decided to divide and conquer... The ones that are out are mostly good, humble, hard working and affluent... The daughter of the one family is going to be attending UofC to get into Medicine, her older brother has a part time job (already paying taxes!) and the younger son is in high school. This is after 4 weeks...

They've already taken on English names as well.

We are completely furnishing 2 residences for them, from salt and pepper shakers, blinds, supplies, food and furniture. Many friends of ours have stepped up and given gift cards and other smaller things. It's overwhelming...

The best thing for me was seeing them light up when I mentioned a Christmas tree. They want to fit in and be a part of our society, we just need to give them an opportunity and not turn our backs to them.

If you and the family are comfortable, you should post some pictures. While your stories are touching and paint a great picture, I think some pictures would do an even better job. Good for you!