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12-12-2015, 07:33 AM
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Broken ice flows
Ice flows just broke in the surrounding area of Calgary leaving caribou stranded and now people are pummelling them with timbits.
Dam global warming.
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12-12-2015, 07:56 AM
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Even though India has a huge population, their "carbon footprint" is nothing compared to urban soccer-moms.
Lets just say Iceland shouldn't be taxed. Most power is geothermal, and one hell of a nice country
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Fly in that ointment is the volcanic nature of the country, real Greenhouse gas emitters in the grand scheme of things.
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12-12-2015, 08:22 AM
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Fly in that ointment is the volcanic nature of the country, real Greenhouse gas emitters in the grand scheme of things.
Grizz
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Yet a lot of that large scale volcanic activity that spews ash into the atmosphere creates cooling, the ash acts as a shield and assists in cooling. I see it as cancelling itself out. The cooling I am talking about is just like a nuclear winter.
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12-12-2015, 08:52 AM
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Yet a lot of that large scale volcanic activity that spews ash into the atmosphere creates cooling, the ash acts as a shield and assists in cooling. I see it as cancelling itself out. The cooling I am talking about is just like a nuclear winter.
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So burning coal should do the same thing?
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12-12-2015, 09:42 AM
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From the 1970's to today, first it was global cooling, then global warming, and now the wonderfully generic term 'climate change'. What was the solution to each of these problems: government control of the energy industry, and re-distribution of wealth from the 'have countries' to the 'have-nots' to counter the so called problem. This is the biggest socialist/communist scheme EVER. It doesn't matter what science says, so long as it fits this agenda. Karl Marx would be proud. Useful idiots, indeed.
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This man nailed it - exactly whats going on. Cheers!
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12-12-2015, 02:46 PM
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So burning coal should do the same thing?
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No, because burning coal doesn't put out a cloud with high albedo.
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12-12-2015, 02:58 PM
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No, because burning coal doesn't put out a cloud with high albedo.
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Ahhh, so white smoke keeps the earth cool and grey smoke with flyash warms it up?...looks like all the bases are covered...
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12-12-2015, 03:07 PM
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Ahhh, so white smoke keeps the earth cool and grey smoke with flyash warms it up?...looks like all the bases are covered...
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Heat and light are both different types of energy. Light energy can be converted into heat energy. A black object absorbs all wavelengths of light and converts them into heat, so the object gets warm. A white object reflects all wavelengths of light, so the light is not converted into heat and the temperature of the object does not increase noticeably.
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12-12-2015, 03:31 PM
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So what is going to happen to the "Manmade Climate Change" religionists when they find out every falsehood they believe in is false and they cannot in their best wet dreams "control" the planets climate. I think it is the height of delusion to think we can control or fix or even undo a living planet.
But carry on with the false religion. To everyones detriment.
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12-12-2015, 05:47 PM
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Ahhh, so white smoke keeps the earth cool and grey smoke with flyash warms it up?...looks like all the bases are covered...
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Drhu pretty much summed it up. *ahem* smoke coming from volcanism isn't just CO2. Tons of particles of Si compounds really do reflect a ton of light, which is what I was talking about... Lmao
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12-12-2015, 09:06 PM
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You boys do realise that good old fashioned clouds are the biggest heat traps on the planet right? Do we tax water?
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12-12-2015, 11:27 PM
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Hydro energy! They increase water surface => evaporation => clouds! (Not by much compared to oceans, but it's OK). New tax!
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12-13-2015, 09:14 AM
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Hal your profile picture is perfect!
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12-13-2015, 09:23 AM
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Hal your profile picture is perfect!
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Yeah Halbert definitely has internet grumpy down to an art form. AO's very own Walter Matthau.
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