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7mm-08 and Elk
Headed out for my first elk hunt next week. I want to know if anyone has any experience shooting elk with a 7-08? I know shot placement is paramount so we don't need to head down that road, I'll be shooting 140 grain Trophy Bonded Tips.
The other option is to pull out the old .303 but we will be hiking a lot and the XS-7 is tons lighter...
Thanks in advance.
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11-03-2011, 08:08 AM
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it will be just fine....put the bullet where it counts and you will have a full freezer
no reason to doubt that round at all.
good luck!!
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11-03-2011, 08:13 AM
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x2, with that bullet, or Accubond, TSX, partition. All good.
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11-03-2011, 08:17 AM
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I sure wouldn't hesitate
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11-03-2011, 08:19 AM
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No problem. Hit 'em where it hurts. 
140 Accubond, pass through at over 400.
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11-03-2011, 10:29 AM
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Nice elk, and good shooting WB.
As mentioned 7-08 will work fine inside normal hunting parameters. Look for a broadside, or quartering away shot you should have no problems.
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11-03-2011, 11:33 AM
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No problem. Hit 'em where it hurts.
140 Accubond, pass through at over 400. |
walking buffalo...... is that you with the elk?
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No problem. Hit 'em where it hurts.
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super bull WB congrats
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11-03-2011, 04:42 PM
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not to hijack but what are some thoughts on the SST on elk out of the same rifle.
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11-03-2011, 04:50 PM
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not to hijack but what are some thoughts on the SST on elk out of the same rifle.
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I'm personally a bit leery on them, I think they may be a bit 'soft', more like the Nosler ballistic tips? Great for deer, maybe not enough penetration for elk/moose. Haven't tried them on other than deer, and they work fine for that. Just my thought.....I'd stick to the accubond, partition, bear claw, tsx.....
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11-03-2011, 05:01 PM
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not to hijack but what are some thoughts on the SST on elk out of the same rifle.
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I've used 130 grain sst bullets in my .270 on deer and I wouldnt use them on elk. IMO they are MORE prone to fragmenting than the regular Interloc and corelokt type bullets. Corelokt and Interlock bullets in heavy-for-caliber weights have worked very well for me on moose so I would reccomend them for elk in cartridges pushing .270 ish velocitys. I would not use the SST's or any other non-bonded polymer tipped bullet on this size of game though.
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I have taken 2 elk with my 7mm-08 in the past few years. 130gr Barnes Triple Shocks. Farthest one was a shade under 200 yards. A nice 5x5 bull who never went 10 yds after being hit. The cow I shot was about 100 yds. She made it 25-30 yds. Never recovered a bullet.
Its enough gun, just do your part.
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not to hijack but what are some thoughts on the SST on elk out of the same rifle.
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I'd say premium or bonded bullets only for the thick skinned critters
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11-03-2011, 08:19 PM
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Load er up and have at er!!!
7MM-08 is enough gun for sure!
The animal won't notice the difference between that and a 7mm mag!
Dead is Dead
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11-03-2011, 08:34 PM
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walking buffalo...... is that you with the elk?
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That was me, 2 years ago.
I've had two haircuts since then.
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11-03-2011, 09:17 PM
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There is a picture of an elk taken in the Gun for my wife thread http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=109654. The bullet was found on the hide on the opposite side of the bull, on a lung shot at 90 yards or so. It was a 140 grain Sierra Pro Hunter bullet and it expanded to 20mm at the widest measurement and weighs 131.5 grains.
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Ask Rackmastr, his worked.
I just smoked my moose with a .270 and it is an equivalent cartridge.
Good bullets where they count.
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11-04-2011, 08:07 AM
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not to hijack but what are some thoughts on the SST on elk out of the same rifle.
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I have a good friend who shot a bull elk with his 7mm and SST handloads....terrible splashes....low penetration....very poor performance.
almost lost that bull...those are glorified varmint bullets...nothing more IMO
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11-04-2011, 08:39 AM
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Hornady's web page gives this description for the SST's.
Streamlined for ultra-flat trajectories.
Polymer tip for rapid expansion and maximum energy transfer.
Match-grade jacket delivers surgical accuracy.
Heavy construction with InterLock® feature delivers deep penetration every time.
Based on what Jamie tells us, the Hornady description must be misleading, or Jamie's friend may have tried to place the shot thru the shoulder when quartering towards at a fair distance. Either way, I have always been equipped with premium bullets for all my elk, Speer Grand Slams.
If I were you gramps, I'd use the pile of SST's you have for deer or target practise. I'm going to load up a 7-08 with 140gr Sierra Pro-Hunters and/or Gamekings after talking with Phil at Sierra. The 140 gr SGK and Prohunter are the same bullet except that the Prohunter is a FB bullet which stabilizes quicker for shots under 250 yards. The BT of the SGK has the boat tail which takes longer to stabilize but is very accurate at longer range.
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11-04-2011, 09:00 AM
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Hornady's web page gives this description for the SST's.
Streamlined for ultra-flat trajectories.
Polymer tip for rapid expansion and maximum energy transfer.
Match-grade jacket delivers surgical accuracy.
Heavy construction with InterLock® feature delivers deep penetration every time.
Based on what Jamie tells us, the Hornady description must be misleading, or Jamie's friend may have tried to place the shot thru the shoulder when quartering towards at a fair distance. Either way, I have always been equipped with premium bullets for all my elk, Speer Grand Slams.
If I were you gramps, I'd use the pile of SST's you have for deer or target practise. I'm going to load up a 7-08 with 140gr Sierra Pro-Hunters and/or Gamekings after talking with Phil at Sierra. The 140 gr SGK and Prohunter are the same bullet except that the Prohunter is a FB bullet which stabilizes quicker for shots under 250 yards. The BT of the SGK has the boat tail which takes longer to stabilize but is very accurate at longer range.
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I don't want to derail this thread but don't be afraid to try out SGKs <250yds. I've found them to be quite accurate from 100 on out.
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11-04-2011, 09:05 AM
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I don't want to derail this thread but don't be afraid to try out SGKs <250yds. I've found them to be quite accurate from 100 on out.
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No derail seen here BJ, that's actually the final choice that I made in fact. I'm gonna push them with H380 and WLR primers. What is your powder?
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11-04-2011, 11:58 AM
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No derail seen here BJ, that's actually the final choice that I made in fact. I'm gonna push them with H380 and WLR primers. What is your powder?
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Now it's a derail  I've never used them in a 7mm-08...and have never even owned a 7mm-08 for that matter.
.30-06
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.250AI
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H4831
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Those are rifles I've personally owned that SGKs worked out well in, I have recommend them to folks and seen good results in a handful of other cartridges up to .338 WM...but never a 7mm-08.
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I don't want to derail this thread but don't be afraid to try out SGKs <250yds. I've found them to be quite accurate from 100 on out.
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This is what SGK 130gr do in my .270 Winchester @ 500 yards
This is what they will kill @ 80 yards....last I checked I don't think a boar is considered a "thin skinned" animal is it?
This is what they look like recovered under the off-side hide....
Any Questions?
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11-04-2011, 01:38 PM
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My SGK experiences have been quite similar. Show me 5 groups in a row at 500 like the one you posted and I would be very impressed.
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11-04-2011, 03:09 PM
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If I do it once it means I can do it 100 times right?  I was just as equally impressed and surprised but I will say that rifle is as factory as they come and is Sub- MOA all day everyday. The shots for that target were made prone shooting off of a Harris Bi-pod.....my target is actually signed by a witness too.
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This bull HATED my 7-08AI and 140TSX....for about 5 seconds till he tipped over. 328 yards....through both shoulders...
I'd shoot anything in Canada except for big bears with this rifle. Would have no issues with a mountain grizz, good shot placement, and a well constructed bullet. Then again, the stock was just cut to fit my wife so now its 'hers' and I get to shoot the 7SAUM instead....
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I would be impressed with three groups like that in a shooting session,let alone five in a row. Like everyone else, I like to shoot a great group, but I put much more faith what a rifle can do on a regular basis, than I do on what it has done once or twice.
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The wife and I both shoot HER 7mm08. She has taken two elk and I have taken three with it. Barnes Triple Shocks. None of them made it the 250 yards out of the field. I'm very impressed.
I have also used it for deer and moose.
Some experts on the Forum refer to it as a girls gun but they haven't a clue in my opinion.
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This bull HATED my 7-08AI and 140TSX....for about 5 seconds till he tipped over. 328 yards....through both shoulders...
I'd shoot anything in Canada except for big bears with this rifle. Would have no issues with a mountain grizz, good shot placement, and a well constructed bullet. Then again, the stock was just cut to fit my wife so now its 'hers' and I get to shoot the 7SAUM instead....
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Is that the bull that Jim (elkhunter1234) spotted for u in wmu108?
Thats a heck of an elk!
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Is that the bull that Jim (elkhunter1234) spotted for u in wmu108?
Thats a heck of an elk!
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No Tyler That is Trevors bull.
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