New Drone Regulations Announced

[elkhunter11]

The new regulations have been announced. What used to be guidelines have now been made regulations.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana...neau-1.4027486

[bigskinner]

So this means l can fly over your house at 80 metres and take pics of your naked wife on the lawn ,as long as l don't go below 75 metres , rightRIGHT

[bruinsmaniac]

"But he added that Transport Canada has noticed a large increase in the number of reported safety incidents involving drones in the last three years: 41 in 2014, 85 in 2015 and 148 last year."

I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN WHAT 'SAFETY INCIDENTS' THEY ARE REFERRING TO. THAT IS A PRETTY BROAD SPECTRUM. IF A GUY CRASHES ONE INTO HIS OWN HOUSE, CAR OR FAMILY THEN THE LAW PROTECTS IDIOTS. THE ARTICLE MADE ME LAUGH. SOMETHING TO DRUM UP NEWS IMO

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

So this means l can fly over your house at 80 metres and take pics of your naked wife on the lawn ,as long as l don't go below 75 metres , rightRIGHT

your wife is naked on your lawn? i think you have bigger concerns

[Jeron Kahyar]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

So this means l can fly over your house at 80 metres and take pics of your naked wife on the lawn ,as long as l don't go below 75 metres , rightRIGHT

Honestly not sure how this argument always comes up with drones. It wasn't legal to video your Naked wife in your backyard before drones, still isn't.

Originally Posted by http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-162.html

Voyeurism

162 (1) Every one commits an offence who, surreptitiously, observes — including by mechanical or electronic means — or makes a visual recording of a person who is in circumstances that give rise to a reasonable expectation of privacy, if

(a) the person is in a place in which a person can reasonably be expected to be nude, to expose his or her genital organs or anal region or her breasts, or to be engaged in explicit sexual activity;

(b) the person is nude, is exposing his or her genital organs or anal region or her breasts, or is engaged in explicit sexual activity, and the observation or recording is done for the purpose of observing or recording a person in such a state or engaged in such an activity; or

(c) the observation or recording is done for a sexual purpose

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

So this means l can fly over your house at 80 metres and take pics of your naked wife on the lawn ,as long as l don't go below 75 metres , rightRIGHT

The 75m is horizontal. Basically can't fly over anyone not involved in the drone operations.

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

your wife is naked on your lawn? i think you have bigger concerns

Read again ,NOT MY WIFE ,yours

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

The 75m is horizontal. Basically can't fly over anyone not involved in the drone operations.

NOPE , the way l read it ,it says l cant be within 75 meters , nothing said about horizontal , just have to be over 75 metres away from house ,vertical or horizontal , but not over 90 metres high , so if l fly over your house at 80 metres , l should be within the law.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

The 75m is horizontal. Basically can't fly over anyone not involved in the drone operations.

The 75m pretty much makes it illegal to fly them in your own back yard in most cities. Even if the distance was straight line, you couldn't take off or land without passing within 75m of another home in most city locations.

[Drewski Canuck]

For God Sakes Elkhunter and Fish e o,

If your wife is outside naked on the lawn right now, at least go offer her a blanket or something. She could be suffering frost bite!

Drewski

[Okotokian]

maybe they are not far off, but....

Calculate the effective vertical range of a 12 ga. shotgun firing a 3 1/2" load of BB. THAT should be the altitude limit. If you can bring down a drone with said load, the act of doing so should be perfectly legal. Also easily enforceable

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

Read again ,NOT MY WIFE ,yours

there i go i drank too much again and got a wife

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

NOPE , the way l read it ,it says l cant be within 75 meters , nothing said about horizontal , just have to be over 75 metres away from house ,vertical or horizontal , but not over 90 metres high , so if l fly over your house at 80 metres , l should be within the law.

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/mediaroom/i...-aircraft.html

Is the actual interm order that they are talking about.

Don't rely on a news article for all your legal advice.

One thing I think they are going to have to change is that drones are UAV's and not model aircraft. Transport Canada has posted the above new rules for drone users and it states 75m lateral distance.

(5) (1) A person must not operate a model aircraft

(a) at an altitude greater than 300 feet AGL;
(b) at a lateral distance of less than 250 feet (75m) from buildings, structures, vehicles, vessels, animals and the public including spectators, bystanders or any person not associated with the operation of the aircraft;
(c) within 9 km of the centre of an aerodrome;
(d) within controlled airspace;
(e) within restricted airspace;
(f) over or within a forest fire area, or any area that is located within 9 km of a forest fire area;
(g) over or within the security perimeter of a police or first responder emergency operation site;
(h) over or within an open-air assembly of persons;
(i) at night; or
(j) in cloud.


Transport Canada's info site for Drone operations in Canada
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...y-legally.html

[hillbillyreefer]

The similarities between some on this site and good old Wendy Cukier are staggering.

You people use the same justification and fear,mongering as her to destroy others hobbies.

Congratulations.

Remember these same people are writing new firearms rules as we speak. I bet the drone owners won't be supporting gun owners. No 2 groups will stand up to the tyranny of government, so we all have our freedoms eroded. Just something for you antis to think about.

[rugatika]

I don't even have a drone, so the more regulations the better.

[Sporty]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

The similarities between some on this site and good old Wendy Cukier are staggering.

You people use the same justification and fear,mongering as her to destroy others hobbies.

Congratulations.

Remember these same people are writing new firearms rules as we speak. I bet the drone owners won't be supporting gun owners. No 2 groups will stand up to the tyranny of government, so we all have our freedoms eroded. Just something for you antis to think about.

When a "hobby" encroaches on someone else's privacy then there needs to be regulations.

You can thank all of the *****hats out there like my neighbor and his son who pulled out their drone every time someone had a backyard BBQ last summer. They weren't even subtle about it, often times the dad would make a comment when we'd see him outside such as "good looking steaks the other night". Some of our friends don't even want to come over for BBQ's anymore because of the frequency of when the drone would be scoping out the yards.

The son went so far as to hover over another yard in the neighborhood when the 16 year old daughter and her friends were out suntanning in the yard. The girl's dad put a stop to that fairly quickly but drones in urban areas are becoming a problem when they're invading someone's privacy.

They should be banned in urban areas all together IMO.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Sporty

When a "hobby" encroaches on someone else's privacy then there needs to be regulations.

You can thank all of the *****hats out there like my neighbor and his son who pulled out their drone every time someone had a backyard BBQ last summer. They weren't even subtle about it, often times the dad would make a comment when we'd see him outside such as "good looking steaks the other night". Some of our friends don't even want to come over for BBQ's anymore because of the frequency of when the drone would be scoping out the yards.

The son went so far as to hover over another yard in the neighborhood when the 16 year old daughter and her friends were out suntanning in the yard. The girl's dad put a stop to that fairly quickly but drones in urban areas are becoming a problem when they're invading someone's privacy.

They should be banned in urban areas all together IMO.

As with most things, a few idiots usually ruin it for everyone. And that 75m distance will pretty much rule out drone use in most neighborhoods.

[chasingtail]

Are these laws just inside urban areas or do they include rural areas? Drones could be good for checking cows but the 500m rule away from user would ruin that. Not that it would stop me.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

The similarities between some on this site and good old Wendy Cukier are staggering.

You people use the same justification and fear,mongering as her to destroy others hobbies.

Congratulations.

Remember these same people are writing new firearms rules as we speak. I bet the drone owners won't be supporting gun owners. No 2 groups will stand up to the tyranny of government, so we all have our freedoms eroded. Just something for you antis to think about.

I find your sign-off quote interesting.
You complain that people think it their right to have hunting access and such to your property...but I should have to put up with some jakwad who wants to intrude on my privacy.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by Sporty

When a "hobby" encroaches on someone else's privacy then there needs to be regulations.

You can thank all of the *****hats out there like my neighbor and his son who pulled out their drone every time someone had a backyard BBQ last summer. They weren't even subtle about it, often times the dad would make a comment when we'd see him outside such as "good looking steaks the other night". Some of our friends don't even want to come over for BBQ's anymore because of the frequency of when the drone would be scoping out the yards.

The son went so far as to hover over another yard in the neighborhood when the 16 year old daughter and her friends were out suntanning in the yard. The girl's dad put a stop to that fairly quickly but drones in urban areas are becoming a problem when they're invading someone's privacy.

They should be banned in urban areas all together IMO.

That is clearly crossing lines.

Have you talked with your neighbor explaining it makes you and your guests feel awkward and uncomfortable when he does that, not to mention it's just in poor taste?

Not insinuating you personally but it's amazing how many people will stew over neighbors actions and vent about them without ever knocking on his door to have a friendly conversation.

I believe they should absolutely NOT be banned in urban areas, if a kid or anyone for that matter wants to go to the school field in the evening and use one he should be allowed to.

Had a neighbor with one last summer & he would do the occasional quick fly-by, didn't bother me one bit. If he wants to have a look at me sitting on my deck having a beer, have at er. Dosent bother me at all. This whole ban everything mindset really needs to stop

[gunsight]

just get a frequince jammer and watch it fall.no firearm required.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by Sporty

When a "hobby" encroaches on someone else's privacy then there needs to be regulations.

You can thank all of the *****hats out there like my neighbor and his son who pulled out their drone every time someone had a backyard BBQ last summer. They weren't even subtle about it, often times the dad would make a comment when we'd see him outside such as "good looking steaks the other night". Some of our friends don't even want to come over for BBQ's anymore because of the frequency of when the drone would be scoping out the yards.

The son went so far as to hover over another yard in the neighborhood when the 16 year old daughter and her friends were out suntanning in the yard. The girl's dad put a stop to that fairly quickly but drones in urban areas are becoming a problem when they're invading someone's privacy.

They should be banned in urban areas all together IMO.

These rules will be about as effective as the gun registry and licensing keeping criminals from obtaining firearms. They will be less effective actually, when is a cop going to waste his time chasing a drone pilot?

Oh well, let the banning continue, soon enough you'll lose something you care about.

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

These rules will be about as effective as the gun registry and licensing keeping criminals from obtaining firearms. They will be less effective actually, when is a cop going to waste his time chasing a drone pilot?

Oh well, let the banning continue, soon enough you'll lose something you care about.

They were interested last year in Fort McMurray when reported.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

I find your sign-off quote interesting.
You complain that people think it their right to have hunting access and such to your property...but I should have to put up with some jakwad who wants to intrude on my privacy.

Actually accessing my property and flying a drone over it are completley different things. How can you equate trespassing on property someone actually has a deed to to an RC aircraft flying in airspace that isn't owned by anyone?

I bet you'd be more than happy to barge onto leaseland as it's public, yet the public's airspace you seem to have a problem with others using. Hmmmmm, I believe the word I'm looking for is "hypocrisy"

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by JohninAB

They were interested last year in Fort McMurray when reported.

When people were flying them during the fire? I'd imagine they were, no different than flying them around an airport.

Some manufacturers put the distance limitations around aerodromes into their software, the drone won't take off or fly into the controlled zone.

Different than around the fire I realize.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Actually accessing my property and flying a drone over it are completley different things. How can you equate trespassing on property someone actually has a deed to to an RC aircraft flying in airspace that isn't owned by anyone?

I bet you'd be more than happy to barge onto leaseland as it's public, yet the public's airspace you seem to have a problem with others using. Hmmmmm, I believe the word I'm looking for is "hypocrisy"

So if someone shot an animal on your property from another property, and then retrieved it with a helicopter without setting foot on your property, you would have no issue with that?

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

So if someone shot an animal on your property from another property, and then retrieved it with a helicopter without setting foot on your property, you would have no issue with that?

Oh, FFS. No why would I? They never trespassed. I'm going to hold my breath waiting for something that stupid to happen.

I'm sure you'd freak out and call the fish cops because they were "using an aircraft" to hunt. At least that's what I gather from some of the comments in the "drone for checking my decoy spread" thread.

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

When people were flying them during the fire? I'd imagine they were, no different than flying them around an airport.

Some manufacturers put the distance limitations around aerodromes into their software, the drone won't take off or fly into the controlled zone.

Different than around the fire I realize.

Yes flying inside the NOTAM. It is unfortunate, but it is those types that are ruining it for the responsible users.

I was looking at buying one, but with all the new regulations coming into force not so eager to anymore.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by JohninAB

Yes flying inside the NOTAM. It is unfortunate, but it is those types that are ruining it for the responsible users.

I was looking at buying one, but with all the new regulations coming into force not so eager to anymore.

Guys getting nailed for that I have absolutely no problem with. I've been around light aircraft all my life, and know lots of pilots.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

Read again ,NOT MY WIFE ,yours

You guys are awesome....drone launched...pics to follow soon.