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07-28-2015, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I have chronographed Superformance loads, Light Magnum loads, Heavy Magnum loads, as well as other similar high velocity loads, and in the vast majority of cases, the velocity produced was less than advertised. In some cases, the actual velocity was as much as 150fps less than advertised, but it's usually closer to 50-100fps. It all depends on the particular rifle that they are fired in.
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I agree....but would find it very believable. I've seen 130g Winchester soft points clock just a hair under 3100 out of my Rem mountain rifle with factory 22' bbl. 3200 is hoofing it, my 280ai spits 145's out at that speed with a 24" pipe, and a case full of 7828.
As to the earlier recomdation by another poster, I'd skip the 130g ballistic tips for the bigger stuff, even though I'm sure they can produce dramatic kills. I know some calibers are heavily jacketed, but not so sure about the 277's.
Oops almost forgot, yes the 270 will handle everything Alberta has to offer except maybe a bison If you reload I'd go 260, or 7-08, but the 270 covers it all with a touch more recoil.
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07-28-2015, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Homesteader
I agree....but would find it very believable. I've seen 130g Winchester soft points clock just a hair under 3100 out of my Rem mountain rifle with factory 22' bbl. 3200 is hoofing it, my 280ai spits 145's out at that speed with a 24" pipe, and a case full of 7828.
As to the earlier recomdation by another poster, I'd skip the 130g ballistic tips for the bigger stuff, even though I'm sure they can produce dramatic kills. I know some calibers are heavily jacketed, but not so sure about the 277's.
Oops almost forgot, yes the 270 will handle everything Alberta has to offer except maybe a bison If you reload I'd go 260, or 7-08, but the 270 covers it all with a touch more recoil.
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Nope. It'll handle bison too : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPZkn6GeB8k
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07-28-2015, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Heavyhitr
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Obviously, it has the power to kill an elephant, but I'd pick a better tool for the job. I'll be honest I haven't looked into it here in Alberta, I do know some places put a minimum energy, caliber/bullet weight in the hunting regs for such things.
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07-28-2015, 01:52 PM
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Ya, well, I've seen a buffalo killed at short range with a 44 mag ranchhand as well...
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07-28-2015, 08:00 PM
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Yeah, I like 270 too. But the new gun is for a lady, so recoil is an important factor.
I even thought of getting another 30-06, then when going out together can share ammo, and noworry about ammo mixup at all. But still prefer a 7mm-08 after seeing so many comments.
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07-30-2015, 01:32 PM
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.270 Win
A .270 is a great rifle, my favorite, the only rifle I used. I use to hunt around Wainright, when they had the Chronic Waste tags. You could shoot lots of deer back then. And, just about every deer dropped right in their tracks, with a 130 grain. I would go 140 or 150 for bigger game. However, my brother shot a giant 6 by 6 elk up towards Grande Praire with a 130 grain. Dropped right in it's tracks. Shot placement is key. If you can't shoot or take the proper shot, you shouldn't be shooting at any animal. They feel pain and don't need to suffer. I have my cow elk and buck muley for WMU 527. Can't wait for hunting season. Good luck and safe hunting. As for Grizzlies, I always carry a shotgun with slug barrel and collapsible stock. Hopefully, I never have to meet one. They are a beautiful animal and would never want to have to hurt one.
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07-30-2015, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by freeride
I would take my 270 on a moose hunt. Shot placement is everything as it is with any caliber.
Personally I would go with something other then a 270 if you have a 30-06 though. Both cases look very close if your on a hunt together and you could load a 30-06 in a 270 by mistake. Could try a short action that you wouldnt get mixed up.
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You can't do that it's not possible without pushing the bullet into the case, the other way around yes, and it hurts.
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07-30-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotwheels81
Who still hunts with a .270? Dident they expire or something 20yrs ago? Can you still get ammo for em?.... .270? Really?... How boring.
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i think that sums it up
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07-30-2015, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Heavyhitr
Holy cow people! Absolutely no love for the good old proven 308?? If I was considering the 7mm08 I would just go with the 308... Which I did. Recoil difference is only on paper IMO with similar bullet weights. I can't tell the difference between A 140gr 7-08 and 150gr 308 in almost identical weighing rifles. 150gr (especially the tsx/ttsx) is good for everything from mice to Moose. If you're worried about bears and want something heavier just pick up a box of 180 grainers... Hornady just introduced 220gr RN loaded ammo as well. If you walk into any gun store/ A place that sells ammo pretty much anywhere in the world you will find 270, 308, and 30-06 on the shelf. Not only is the 308 going to be easier to find it's going to be cheaper as well = more time at the range. If you do start to reload the 308 and 06. Shoot The same caliber bullet. It's also a short action so there shouldn't be a mixup with shells. I'm going in the face here lol.. Don't get caught up in splitting hairs Reading about which is better on the net. They all will work if you do your part and if there's any question you've already got the Mack daddy of versatility - 30-06!
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I'm with this guy,,if your dropping case size for a 7mm08 you might as well use a 308
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07-30-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tactical Lever
He was looking for something a little lighter in recoil for his wife mainly. If he's got a 30-06 already, there is very little difference. And the shells could still be mixed up (.308 in 30-06) which was a concern of his.
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If someone can manage that they have no business even holding a gun
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07-30-2015, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck
The only thing better is the 280 Rem.
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Enough said
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07-30-2015, 02:23 PM
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I like the .270 Winchester , have owned many have killed moose , elk, big bears and lots of deer using them, if I did my part(shot placement) the .270 did the job every time with authority,
Matter if fact was shooting one of my favourite .270,s yesterday, a 50 year old Husqvarna Feather Weight bolt action, 22 inch barrel,, kicks the snot out of you even with 130 grn factory loads, but shoots dime size groups at 100 yards,,,,
I'm used to recoil , my .416 Mag, .338 Win a Mag, 9.3x62mm Muaser, 30-06 etc, no prob !
But that.270 Feather Weight is a Kicker
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07-30-2015, 02:30 PM
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Personally I would go with something other then a 270 if you have a 30-06 though. Both cases look very close if your on a hunt together and you could load a 30-06 in a 270 by mistake. Could try a short action that you wouldnt get mixed up.
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Good luck with that, you would have to put enough pressure on the cartridge to push the bullet into the case, and collapse the neck enough to get the case far enough into the chamber to close the bolt.
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07-30-2015, 11:05 PM
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Shooting a grizzly and shooting at a grizzly that is after are 2 different situations. So if ur really serious about the potential of dealing with a cranky grizz you better have all the firepower you or wife can handle. 300mag is a good starting place with very good bullets. Your best hope is that the hydro-shock will put it down long enough to punch it some more. Cause if he gets on you your odds start to go very bad. I got a 2nd chance with bear coming in on me while laid out on ground. 300WM with 200 Partition in the gut at 1 metre fom end of barrel and she never even landed on me. I was very glad I took the 300 that day and not my 270. Or take bear spray...I heard it works. Read book by James Gary Shelton 'Bear Attacks II'
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