had an interesting chat with a conservation officer today about broadheads

chironomidkraut · #1 05-22-2013, 07:37 PM

well i was asking him about whats considered a barbed broadhead and he told me his definition was any broadhead that resisted being pulled out of an object, he says that they are perfectly ok to use as long as they have a legal cut diameter.
his answer really surprised me cause i always thought barbed broadheads were banned in alberaso it looks like i will be getting the swept back qad exodus th

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Lefty-Canuck · #2 05-22-2013, 07:44 PM

I would get a second opinion as it states in the regs that barbed heads are not legal for hunting.

LC

chironomidkraut · #3 05-22-2013, 07:46 PM

ya i brought that up to him and he kept telling me about cut diameter thats all that matters so hmmmm more comments would be great

MathewsArcher · #4 05-22-2013, 07:52 PM

The regulations were reworded a few years ago and now read as below:

Any arrow other than an arrow that has a tip that bears a head
that
(a) is not intentionally designed to resist being withdrawn
after it has penetrated an object,

The word intentional is important to note.....

chironomidkraut · #5 05-22-2013, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

The regulations were reworded a few years ago and now read as below:

Any arrow other than an arrow that has a tip that bears a head
that
(a) is not intentionally designed to resist being withdrawn
after it has penetrated an object,

The word intentional is important to note.....

that to me means illigal, thats what i told him too

MathewsArcher · #6 05-22-2013, 07:59 PM

Not illegal unless the head was intentionally designed to resist being pulled out.

7 REM MAG · #7 05-22-2013, 08:47 PM

intentionally designed to me means sold by the manufacturer as such or modified by you to resist withdrawal

chironomidkraut · #8 05-22-2013, 08:50 PM

Can someone post a pic of a head that was designed not to be pulled out please, getting very confused now

MathewsArcher · #9 05-22-2013, 09:06 PM

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/inne...ple-point.html

338Bluff · #10 05-22-2013, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/inne...ple-point.html

That is a fishing point, not a hunting broadhead.

MathewsArcher · #11 05-22-2013, 10:33 PM

Yup...

338Bluff · #12 05-22-2013, 11:10 PM

And therefore not illegal.....unless someone sharpened it and was caught trying to harpoon a moose with it.

Better have real strong cord on the bowfishing reel cause its going to be a rough ride.

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #13 05-23-2013, 08:49 AM

The legal defination of a "Barbed Broadhead means"
According to my findings there has to be at least a 90 degree angle between the end of the broadhead blade and arrow shaft any blade below 90 Degree of ferulle and FIXED is barbed...

However heads such as the T3 for example which are below 90 Degree of ferulle...are NOT barbed because they are not fixed..they dont resist removal and blades retract...

Neil

petew · #14 05-23-2013, 09:57 AM

MathewsArcher · #15 05-23-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

The legal defination of a "Barbed Broadhead means"
According to my findings there has to be at least a 90 degree angle between the end of the broadhead blade and arrow shaft any blade below 90 Degree of ferulle and FIXED is barbed...

However heads such as the T3 for example which are below 90 Degree of ferulle...are NOT barbed because they are not fixed..they dont resist removal and blades retract...

Neil

Barbed is no longer mentioned in the wildlife act or regulations.....

Stinky Coyote · #16 05-24-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 338Bluff

And therefore not illegal.....unless someone sharpened it and was caught trying to harpoon a moose with it.

Better have real strong cord on the bowfishing reel cause its going to be a rough ride.

Lol, awesome visual

lapua · #17 06-09-2013, 10:46 PM

ya bow fishing a moose, hold my beer and watch this lol

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #18 06-10-2013, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

Barbed is no longer mentioned in the wildlife act or regulations.....

Correct ..this is The legal defination of a "Barbed Broadhead for the rest of the world that does mention it...

Neil

Okotokian · #19 06-10-2013, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

Not illegal unless the head was intentionally designed to resist being pulled out.

Gee, wonder how you legally judge the intent of the manufacturer? Sounds like a poorly worded and unenforcable regulation.

TommyBC · #20 06-20-2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Gee, wonder how you legally judge the intent of the manufacturer? Sounds like a poorly worded and unenforcable regulation.

lol! No kidding. Why would they even stipulate "intentional"? Intention doesn't make the difference. Either it is or it isn't.

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #21 06-20-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Gee, wonder how you legally judge the intent of the manufacturer? Sounds like a poorly worded and unenforcable regulation.

A couple good points above, I am not sure why SRD re-worded it..

Because IMHO ...Any big game broadhead manufacturer unless speacialized [ mostly fishing ] would be STUPID to state that their broadhead is " intentionally designed to resist being withdrawn
after it has penetrated "...that would deminish their sales substancially

Most barbed broadheads that have not passed thru an animail and remain inside the body cavity WILL resist being withdrawn...however was it intenionally designed to do that...I believe not!!!

it should be re-worded to state FIXED BARBED...as I believe that some mecanical heads were mistakenly classified by some as barbed...but they are NOT barbed as the blades will not remain a barbed state after impact...the blades fold back.

JMHO
Neil