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Old 01-12-2021, 04:19 PM
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Please provide one case in Alberta where anyone has been charged with hunting over a crop they planted for habitat improvement on their own deeded land. There is none, just like you will not find any terms referencing planting crops for the purpose of hunting is illegal.



Placing an attractant is a temporary action which singles out your intent... Planting a field of dreams which is used through out the year is improving habitat for all species.



Did you bother to even look at the Ross Creek program I shared links ? It is black and white these shareholders are not breaking laws by improving the habitat and allowing the general public to access for the purpose of hunting.



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Old 01-13-2021, 09:40 PM
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I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not... I pointed you to just one of many current examples of habitat enhancement which was done by wildlife organizations.



It is actually better to take your final cut on alfalfa a couple weeks before fall. The new growth will be candy to the species that use that as a food source.

How on earth is creating habitat illegal ?

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100% sarcastic. I don’t have pheasants where I live. You provided an example of habitat improvement for the sake of animals, specifically birds,not for the sake of hunting. You are just wording it so you are planting a food plot to be a wildlife stewardess who just happens to be hunting there.... these tree stands over this cornfield are for birdwatching, the gun is for bears, and the deer just happened to walk out past the sign saying “no deer allowed”
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Old 01-14-2021, 09:58 AM
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I did provide you with the project at Ross Creek. The planting of food plots have been rotated from corn to this past seasons winter wheat.

https://pheasantsforeverchinook.ca/n...wheat-project/

The planting of food plots are habitat improvement, there is zero grey area as every species in the respective area benefit from these. If your worried, place signage so the target species understands the risk of grazing there.

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What the government does on ACA land is not necessarily the same as what you can do on private land. By your logic because the cops carry a pistol, its therefore legal for me.
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Old 01-14-2021, 01:24 PM
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100% sarcastic. I don’t have pheasants where I live. You provided an example of habitat improvement for the sake of animals, specifically birds,not for the sake of hunting. You are just wording it so you are planting a food plot to be a wildlife stewardess who just happens to be hunting there.... these tree stands over this cornfield are for birdwatching, the gun is for bears, and the deer just happened to walk out past the sign saying “no deer allowed”
The project I referenced at Ross Creek is just one of many, I thought due to the use of the words "food plot" in their improvement of the habitat there is would be easy to understand planting is not baiting. I was wrong.

There are no bears in this area and it is very obvious you have not researched this or even read to improve you understanding of food plots in Alberta.

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What the government does on ACA land is not necessarily the same as what you can do on private land. By your logic because the cops carry a pistol, its therefore legal for me.
Oh boy, the government has no stake in the organizations who fund this project at Ross Creek. It is very obvious you have no idea and are commenting with your opinion only.



For both of you, Alberta's big game hunting regulations state

It is unlawful to

1. hunt big game with any weapon other than:


· a bow or cross-bow, and arrow or bolt, that are lawful for hunting big game (see page 42),

· a rifle and ammunition that are lawful for hunting big game,

· a muzzle-loading firearm .44 calibre or greater, or

· a shotgun and ammunition that are lawful for hunting big game.

2. set out, use or employ any of the following items for the purpose of hunting big game:

· ammunition of less than .23 calibre,

· ammunition that contains non-expanding bullets,

· an auto-loading firearm that has the capacity to hold more than 5 cartridges in the magazine,

· a shotgun having a gauge of .410 or less,

· a shotgun in a bird sanctuary,

· bait, except as permitted for the hunting of black bears (click here for more information on Black Bear baiting),

· a rifle or shotgun in WMUs 212, 248 or 410 (persons hunting under the authority of a Strathcona White-tailed Deer Licence, a Foothills Deer Licence, or an Antlerless Moose Special Licence in Strathcona County may hunt with a bow and arrow, cross-bow, muzzle loader or shotgun),

· a trap,

· a cross-bow and arrow that is not authorized (click here to view Hunting with a Cross-bow)



The wording is "set out, use or employ" is very key to baiting... There is no reference to planting crops or forage.



Now, our neighbors to the east can use bait legally to hunt big game, here is their definition of baiting...

Bait means any food, including salt and salt products intended to attract big game, but does not include fields of crop or forage, whether standing or harvested crops, forage or hay stacked in the field where it is grown, or grain that is scattered or piled as a result of farming operations; · In the provincial forest, in provincial parks or recreation sites and on unoccupied Crown land, no person shall: > Store bait at or near any bait location; · On private land or occupied Crown land, no person shall, without the permission of the owner or occupant, place bait, including salt and salt products, for hunting big game or feeding or attracting other wildlife. It is recommended that salt or salt products used for hunting purposes be placed in a leak-proof container;

It is fairly obvious that food plots do not constitute baiting even in a province that allows baiting for the purpose of hunting big game.

I have provided more than enough factual information, even wildlife organizations using food plots, you two have provided nothing but your opinions.

Jim

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It's pretty easy to find deer trails.... especially with snow on the ground.
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The project I referenced at Ross Creek is just one of many, I thought due to the use of the words "food plot" in their improvement of the habitat there is would be easy to understand planting is not baiting. I was wrong.

There are no bears in this area and it is very obvious you have not researched this or even read to improve you understanding of food plots in Alberta.



Oh boy, the government has no stake in the organizations who fund this project at Ross Creek. It is very obvious you have no idea and are commenting with your opinion only.



For both of you, Alberta's big game hunting regulations state

It is unlawful to

1. hunt big game with any weapon other than:


· a bow or cross-bow, and arrow or bolt, that are lawful for hunting big game (see page 42),

· a rifle and ammunition that are lawful for hunting big game,

· a muzzle-loading firearm .44 calibre or greater, or

· a shotgun and ammunition that are lawful for hunting big game.

2. set out, use or employ any of the following items for the purpose of hunting big game:

· ammunition of less than .23 calibre,

· ammunition that contains non-expanding bullets,

· an auto-loading firearm that has the capacity to hold more than 5 cartridges in the magazine,

· a shotgun having a gauge of .410 or less,

· a shotgun in a bird sanctuary,

· bait, except as permitted for the hunting of black bears (click here for more information on Black Bear baiting),

· a rifle or shotgun in WMUs 212, 248 or 410 (persons hunting under the authority of a Strathcona White-tailed Deer Licence, a Foothills Deer Licence, or an Antlerless Moose Special Licence in Strathcona County may hunt with a bow and arrow, cross-bow, muzzle loader or shotgun),

· a trap,

· a cross-bow and arrow that is not authorized (click here to view Hunting with a Cross-bow)



The wording is "set out, use or employ" is very key to baiting... There is no reference to planting crops or forage.



Now, our neighbors to the east can use bait legally to hunt big game, here is their definition of baiting...

Bait means any food, including salt and salt products intended to attract big game, but does not include fields of crop or forage, whether standing or harvested crops, forage or hay stacked in the field where it is grown, or grain that is scattered or piled as a result of farming operations; · In the provincial forest, in provincial parks or recreation sites and on unoccupied Crown land, no person shall: > Store bait at or near any bait location; · On private land or occupied Crown land, no person shall, without the permission of the owner or occupant, place bait, including salt and salt products, for hunting big game or feeding or attracting other wildlife. It is recommended that salt or salt products used for hunting purposes be placed in a leak-proof container;

It is fairly obvious that food plots do not constitute baiting even in a province that allows baiting for the purpose of hunting big game.

I have provided more than enough factual information, even wildlife organizations using food plots, you two have provided nothing but your opinions.

Jim
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