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07-22-2019, 12:49 PM
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Trail cams on private land
What the [L] is with some folk? Was over checking on the grass on a pasture and found not one but three trail cams.
When I'm asked for permission to hunt I always state no cams but it seems people just don't care what the land owner wants. Do these same people think it would be alright for me[or anyone for that matter] to up trail cams in their house? Thinking I'll shut down permission to only those I know as I'm sick and tired of idiots.
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07-22-2019, 01:18 PM
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Indeed happens way too often, the good news is the culprit will come and ask if you have them, at least that's what happened to us. We returned them in a bag, they just required reassembly
Your land, your rules, simple.
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07-22-2019, 01:46 PM
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Shut er down for a year or two. Lite er up with signs and when someone asks why, explain to them that permission comes with conditions which were broken and now theyve ruined it for everyone. Bloody drones and cameras are really an infringement of privacy unless they belong to you.
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07-22-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pitw
What the [L] is with some folk? Was over checking on the grass on a pasture and found not one but three trail cams.
When I'm asked for permission to hunt I always state no cams but it seems people just don't care what the land owner wants. Do these same people think it would be alright for me[or anyone for that matter] to up trail cams in their house? Thinking I'll shut down permission to only those I know as I'm sick and tired of idiots.
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Good for you man shut it down I'd say 5-10 years explain nothing to nobody do what you want.
That's the way the ball bounces some people will do what they want no matter what.
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07-22-2019, 02:13 PM
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Go put a piece of tape over the lenses of the trail cams and leave a note letting the cam owners know they have lost their permissions.
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07-22-2019, 02:17 PM
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use them for target practice
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07-22-2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JDK71
use them for target practice
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Specially the drones.
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07-22-2019, 02:57 PM
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Specially the drones.
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yes moving target is always good
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07-22-2019, 02:35 PM
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use them for target practice
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This.
Would make for a great u tube vid of you can film at high speed to display in slow mo.
One with 22, another in 308 and the third with shotty. Effects of kinetic energy is always a good watch.
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07-22-2019, 02:43 PM
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Did you pull the cams?
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07-22-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HalfBreed
This.
Would make for a great u tube vid of you can film at high speed to display in slow mo.
One with 22, another in 308 and the third with shotty. Effects of kinetic energy is always a good watch.
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it sure would
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07-22-2019, 02:59 PM
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I were brought up by parents who lived through the thirty's so destrroying anything kinda/sorta goes against the grain. Instead I have written a note to place in a ziplock bag for all three devices.
To the owner of the camera that was here. You can get your camera back by contacting the land owner.
You can also get permission to hunt here again once you have installed camera's throughout your house[bedrooms, front room etc]. and yard that the land owner can access by computer. Until this is done the land will be shut down to hunters I don't know, thanks to you.
Gotta wait for the wife to get home to do the printing thingy as I ain't got that figured out either. If ya come up with an addition I like, it will be included.
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07-22-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pitw
I were brought up by parents who lived through the thirty's so destrroying anything kinda/sorta goes against the grain. Instead I have written a note to place in a ziplock bag for all three devices.
To the owner of the camera that was here. You can get your camera back by contacting the land owner.
You can also get permission to hunt here again once you have installed camera's throughout your house[bedrooms, front room etc]. and yard that the land owner can access by computer. Until this is done the land will be shut down to hunters I don't know, thanks to you.
Gotta wait for the wife to get home to do the printing thingy as I ain't got that figured out either. If ya come up with an addition I like, it will be included.
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You are a better man than me.
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07-23-2019, 07:41 AM
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private land
This is why a couple like the wife and i cant get permission to hunt private land ...idiots that cant follow landowner rules .
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07-23-2019, 07:51 AM
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Maybe I'm the dumb one here (pffffttt) but what's the issue with putting up trail cams in the BUSH? Sorry are you a nudist that travels around and rolls naked in the bush? I get the "dOn'T pUt CaMeRaS iN mY hOmE" part but out in the bushes, the dude is just trying to see what all is out there for game.
Did he screw them into the trees, causing damage? Putting trail cameras up is a very low impact thing and I GUESS if you really hate having someone else's cameras OUT IN THE BUSH then cool that's your thing but really I think you over reacted. The majority of people use trail cameras these days.
Plus I always carry a card reader with me so if I come across a camera I'm pulling the card, reading it (gotta find those monster bucks) and deleting any evidence that I was in the area.
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07-23-2019, 07:57 AM
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Don’t mess with other people’s stuff, period.
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07-23-2019, 08:04 AM
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I follow land owner rules and if I do find s camera on the bush i K leave alone- it’d Not mine ,
No different than finding a chain saw , quad ,truck,traps or anything else that has obviously been left there to be retrieved later .
If it is not yours and not your land - crown or otherwise leave it alone , and that includes trail cameras .
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07-23-2019, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
Maybe I'm the dumb one here (pffffttt) but what's the issue with putting up trail cams in the BUSH? Sorry are you a nudist that travels around and rolls naked in the bush? I get the "dOn'T pUt CaMeRaS iN mY hOmE" part but out in the bushes, the dude is just trying to see what all is out there for game.
Did he screw them into the trees, causing damage? Putting trail cameras up is a very low impact thing and I GUESS if you really hate having someone else's cameras OUT IN THE BUSH then cool that's your thing but really I think you over reacted. The majority of people use trail cameras these days.
Plus I always carry a card reader with me so if I come across a camera I'm pulling the card, reading it (gotta find those monster bucks) and deleting any evidence that I was in the area.
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It is landowners property and he makes the rules. He does not have to justify them to anyone. If he doesn't want cameras, he doesn't want cameras. Either follow the rules or get out. Pretty simple.
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07-23-2019, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewM
It is landowners property and he makes the rules. He does not have to justify them to anyone. If he doesn't want cameras, he doesn't want cameras. Either follow the rules or get out. Pretty simple.
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i guess i'm with whitetailab on this, but you are sure right about the landowners rules being the rules..........whether they make sense or not is beside the point.
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07-23-2019, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewM
It is landowners property and he makes the rules. He does not have to justify them to anyone. If he doesn't want cameras, he doesn't want cameras. Either follow the rules or get out. Pretty simple.
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I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr" thing, cameras strapped to a tree are harmless.
I expected some butthurt out of my post, and I was right.
Like I said, unless the dude is running around nude in his field and bush what is the actual harm, aside from hurt feelings (like he obviously has)
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07-23-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr" thing, cameras strapped to a tree are harmless.
I expected some butthurt out of my post, and I was right.
Like I said, unless the dude is running around nude in his field and bush what is the actual harm, aside from hurt feelings (like he obviously has)
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It is his land so he can make up whatever "dumb" rule he feels like. It is simple, if you don't like the rules don't hunt there. It isn't butt hurt unless yours is hurting. Find somewhere else. Not hard at all.
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07-23-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr" thing, cameras strapped to a tree are harmless.
I expected some butthurt out of my post, and I was right.
Like I said, unless the dude is running around nude in his field and bush what is the actual harm, aside from hurt feelings (like he obviously has)
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Maybe the landowner does run around in the nude or maybe he simply does not like the use of trail cams, drones, quads , trucks or even bows .
I know lots of farmers who don’t like gun hunters and some that din’t Like bow hunters .
Who cares, their rules .......
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07-23-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr" thing, cameras strapped to a tree are harmless.
I expected some butthurt out of my post, and I was right.
Like I said, unless the dude is running around nude in his field and bush what is the actual harm, aside from hurt feelings (like he obviously has)
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There's also a fair chance that the owner of the cameras DOESN'T have permission to hunt or trespass on the property, so the land owner is justified in removing them from his property. Leaving a note as to how the cameras can be claimed is a sign of respect by the OP that the owner of the camera is lucky the OP shares.
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07-23-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr" thing, cameras strapped to a tree are harmless.
I expected some butthurt out of my post, and I was right.
Like I said, unless the dude is running around nude in his field and bush what is the actual harm, aside from hurt feelings (like he obviously has)
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You think it's ok to break the landowners specific rules because you think they're "dumb"? Then complain when the landowner gets all "butthurt"? You sound like the reason decent hunters get turned down when asking for permission. You know what they say. One bad apple...
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07-24-2019, 02:52 PM
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[QUOTE=WhiteTailAB;4004901]I get that, but it's a dumb rule IMO. Like I said, they're harmless. To me it's more of a "iM tHe oWnEr"
Not sure if I'm reading this right BUT it sounds to me like an
"authority complex", that we have here...What part of -NO- is so hard to understand
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09-16-2019, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewM
It is landowners property and he makes the rules. He does not have to justify them to anyone. If he doesn't want cameras, he doesn't want cameras. Either follow the rules or get out. Pretty simple.
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It should be this simple for sure, but unfortunately for ethical, honest hunters that attitude of "I want to" seems to get distorted into "its my right who cares if its your land". And exactly as you stated "Follow the rules or get out" pretend you have a pair and try to actually "man up" instead of pouting like a three year old that gets told no.
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07-23-2019, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
Maybe I'm the dumb one here (pffffttt) but what's the issue with putting up trail cams in the BUSH? Sorry are you a nudist that travels around and rolls naked in the bush? I get the "dOn'T pUt CaMeRaS iN mY hOmE" part but out in the bushes, the dude is just trying to see what all is out there for game.
Did he screw them into the trees, causing damage? Putting trail cameras up is a very low impact thing and I GUESS if you really hate having someone else's cameras OUT IN THE BUSH then cool that's your thing but really I think you over reacted. The majority of people use trail cameras these days.
Plus I always carry a card reader with me so if I come across a camera I'm pulling the card, reading it (gotta find those monster bucks) and deleting any evidence that I was in the area.
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Here lies the problem, the OP stated he did not want camera's as a stipulation of access to their PRIVATE property... Does not matter at all what anyone thinks or feels about their camera's this was a condition placed on access.
It's no wonder every season more land is locked....
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07-23-2019, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
Maybe I'm the dumb one here (pffffttt) but what's the issue with putting up trail cams in the BUSH? Sorry are you a nudist that travels around and rolls naked in the bush? I get the "dOn'T pUt CaMeRaS iN mY hOmE" part but out in the bushes, the dude is just trying to see what all is out there for game.
Did he screw them into the trees, causing damage? Putting trail cameras up is a very low impact thing and I GUESS if you really hate having someone else's cameras OUT IN THE BUSH then cool that's your thing but really I think you over reacted. The majority of people use trail cameras these days.
Plus I always carry a card reader with me so if I come across a camera I'm pulling the card, reading it (gotta find those monster bucks) and deleting any evidence that I was in the area.
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Sounds like you are the number one reason that respectful hunters get turned down from hunting on private land. The kind of guy who may ask for permission but likely will just trespass. If you dont like it then buy your own land. Attitudes like yours stink. Stop being a lazy ass and stop checking other peoples cams. Do your own research.
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07-23-2019, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by crownb
Sounds like you are the number one reason that respectful hunters get turned down from hunting on private land. The kind of guy who may ask for permission but likely will just trespass. If you dont like it then buy your own land. Attitudes like yours stink. Stop being a lazy ass and stop checking other peoples cams. Do your own research.
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I have lots of land to hunt on, thanks. No need to trespass as I don't break the law because I like hunting and guns too much to risk lose that.
You'd never know if anyone with a card reader checked your cams, bro.
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07-23-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB
I have lots of land to hunt on, thanks. No need to trespass as I don't break the law because I like hunting and guns too much to risk lose that.
You'd never know if anyone with a card reader checked your cams, bro.
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Do us all a favor and stick to your Dad's land that you posted no hunting signs on. You are complaining about the rules that other people have yet you brag about posting your Dad's land.
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