ACT NOW!!!!! "Upcoming gun bill ‘scaring the hell out of the Liberal caucus,’"

[8x68S]

Just passing info along
As posted on another forum:
"Ok Guys Now is the time to go into code red scenario. This morning the Hill times is reporting that the upcoming gun bill is scaring the living s***t out of rural liberals, I called my MP this morning a liberal and he told me that the bill is far more severe than anticipated, i.e. gun bans and reclassification for all semi-autos. Look guys if you don't start contacting your liberal MP's were Screwed. My Mp claimed it was an Australian model legislation. God help us, and help yourselves by contacting your MP"S, email them, send letters, call them, bombard them with everything we got. I usually don't panic but I want my kids to own my guns and with this bill were doomed.

https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/12...rns-put/137000

contact your MP, Ralph Goodale, and Justin Trudeau.

You can find your MP'S contact info at this link:http://www.parl.gc.ca/parliamentarians/en/members

Two email accounts for Goodale: hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, ralph.goodale@parl.gc.ca

justin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca

Lets go guys and gals make it happen.

UPDATE: To everyone asking where I got my info, my MP Peter Shiefke was told that bans and or reclassifications are being throughly examined as real and legitimate possibilities, by the PMO and Goodale. After the polysesouvient poll they have become serious about moving all semi-autos into restricted category and prohibiting ar-15 in order to seem progressive. Also Mark Holland is behind this, my MP told me he would consider voting against if he deems it unfair to gun owners, he only won his seat by 9%.



Rural/Urban and Urban/Rural Ridings won by 5 per cent or less, 2015 election

Riding name Province Winner Party Riding type 2015 margin of victory
St. John’s East Nfld. Nick Whalen Liberal U/R 1.4%
Fundy Royal N.B Alaina Lockhart Liberal R/U 3.8%
Beloeil-Chambly Que. Matthew Dubé NDP U/R 1.7%
Pierre-Boucher-Les Patriotes-Vercheres Que. Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc U/R 0.4%
Chicoutimi-Le Fjord Que. Denis Lemieux Liberal U/R 1.4%
Jonquiere Que. Karine Trudel NDP U/R 0.7%
Lac-Saint Jean Que. Denis Lebel Conservative U/R 4.8%
Laurentides-Labelle Que. David Graham Liberal U/R 2.4%
Mirabel Que. Simon Marcil Bloc U/R 1.4%
Montmagny-L’Islet-Kamouraska-Riviere-du-Loup Que. Bernard Généroux Conservative R/U 0.6%
Riviere-du-Nord Que. Rhéal Fortin Bloc U/R 1.9%
Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot Que. Brigitte Sansoucy NDP U/R 1.1%
Saint-Jean Que. Jean Rioux Liberal U/R 4.1%
Salaberry-Suroit Que. Anne Minh-Thu Quach NDP U/R 1.3%
Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte Ont. Alex Nuttall Conservative U/R 0.2%
Cambridge Ont. Bryan May Liberal U/R 4.5%
Chatham-Kent-Leamington Ont. Dave Van Kesteren Conservative R/U 4.5%
Hastings-Lennox and Addington Ont. Mike Bossio Liberal R/U 0.5%
Kenora Ont. Bob Nault Liberal R/U 1.6%
King-Vaughan Ont. Deb Schulte Liberal U/R 3.2%
Kitchener-Conestoga Ont. Harold Albrecht Conservative R/U 0.5%
Nickel Belt Ont. Marc Serré Liberal U/R 5%
Northumberland-Peterborough South Ont. Kim Rudd Liberal R/U 3%
Parry Sound-Muskoka Ont. Tony Clement Conservative R/U 4.4%
Simcoe North Ont. Bruce Stanton Conservative R/U 3.7%
Churchill-Keewatinook Aski Man. Niki Ashton NDP R/U 3%
Kildonan-St. Paul Man. MaryAnn Mihychuk Liberal U/R 2.8%
Desnethé-Missinippi-Churchill River Sask. Georgina Jolibois NDP R/U 0.3%
Regina-Lewvan Sask. Erin Weir NDP U/R 0.3%
Central Okanagan-Similkameen-Nicola B.C. Dan Albas Conservative U/R 2.4%
Kootenay-Columbia B.C. Wayne Stetski NDP U/R 0.4%
Mission–Matsqui-Fraser Canyon B.C. Jati Sidhu Liberal U/R 2.3%
Pitt Meadows-Maple Ridge B.C. Dan Ruimy Liberal U/R 2.5%"

[6.5 shooter]

Just say thanks to all the gunies who voted Liberal last election....Ya didn't Like Harper thought you would try something different......Well here ya go 40 years of fighting the Liberal gun ban and you goofs...voted them in AGAIN...have fun, my fight is over yours is just beginning.

[sdvc]

Idiots but useful according to communists and george soros!

[CaberTosser]

I saw an article last night that touched on Goodale and Trudy mentioning some kind of changes to gun control but could not find it to post to a thread. It does sound ominous and its timed to coincide with the furor over the US shootings. People hear about a shooting there and it registers with them as though its some kind of a problem here. I figured there would be something coming in terms of dumb new restrictions on the law abiding since last fall. Of course the Liberals won't bother to address the failing legal system or crack down on actual criminals.

Time to get those things you've been wanting before you can't! Even if its just a stripped AR lower receiver you'll want to be grandfathered as a legal owner.

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

Time to get those things you've been wanting before you can't! Even if its just a stripped AR lower receiver you'll want to be grandfathered as a legal owner.

$99 stripped lower
http://www.armseast.ca/aero_precisio...iver_stripped/

$80 stripped lower
https://www.theammosource.com/store/...0rlm0cckv212g2

I think this is money well spent.
If you have a restricted license and no ar, get a stripped lower today.
Then there will be one more ar owner.
Tell your friends.
We need numbers!

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by dewey cox

$99 stripped lower
http://www.armseast.ca/aero_precisio...iver_stripped/

$80 stripped lower
https://www.theammosource.com/store/...0rlm0cckv212g2

i think this is money well spent.
If you have a restricted license and no ar, get a stripped lower today.
Then there will be one more ar owner.
Tell your friends.
We need numbers!

x1000

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

$99 stripped lower
http://www.armseast.ca/aero_precisio...iver_stripped/

$80 stripped lower
https://www.theammosource.com/store/...0rlm0cckv212g2

I think this is money well spent.
If you have a restricted license and no ar, get a stripped lower today.
Then there will be one more ar owner.
Tell your friends.
We need numbers!

(Cue announcer and presentation style parodying a 'feed & school the starving children' commercial)

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[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by dewey cox

$99 stripped lower
http://www.armseast.ca/aero_precisio...iver_stripped/

$80 stripped lower
https://www.theammosource.com/store/...0rlm0cckv212g2

i think this is money well spent.
If you have a restricted license and no ar, get a stripped lower today.
Then there will be one more ar owner.
Tell your friends.
We need numbers!

👍

[elkhunter11]

After the last federal election, I liquidated all of my restricted firearms, and my non restricted ACR , because I suspected that the new government would enact some asinine legislation in order to appease the emotions of the anti firearms crowd. I wasn't really using them much, so I reinvested the money elsewhere rather than end up with firearms that would be reclassified or prohibited, which could drastically reduce their value. Now after hearing about the ruckus within the government over the upcoming changes, I am wondering if I will even be able to hunt with my semi auto waterfowl shotgun, or if the fools in power will make that illegal like it is in Australia.

[RavYak]

You won't stop them by opposing them. Someone needs to form a realistic platform on firearms and then propose it publicly to gain support and sway politicians to get behind you. If you only oppose the changes you will lose as there aren't enough of you but if you can get a bill with some proactive changes and allowances for reasonable firearm ownership/use then you might be able to get enough people on board.

Making all semi automatic firearms restricted is drastic. Semi automatic hunting rifles and shotguns do have a place in hunting. What I would propose is some sort of intermediate level classification between non restricted and restricted that applies to all non restricted semi automatic firearms and has tighter regulations but still allows hunters to use semi automatic hunting rifles/shotguns.

Prohibiting AR-15's is also drastic, restricted is fine. Reclassifying some other assault style firearms as restricted would be reasonable though.

Make a good platform and I would support you guys, I think the proposed changes if true are ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me if our liberal government would consider doing these things though and they will likely see more support then opposition in doing so...

[GrandSlam]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

$99 stripped lower
http://www.armseast.ca/aero_precisio...iver_stripped/

$80 stripped lower
https://www.theammosource.com/store/...0rlm0cckv212g2

I think this is money well spent.
If you have a restricted license and no ar, get a stripped lower today.
Then there will be one more ar owner.
Tell your friends.
We need numbers!

Done! Thanks for the links

[CaberTosser]

I'm against the entire premise of a party whipping the vote with their MP's, that's counter to democracy and representing the people whose behalf they're supposed to be working for. I don't care if its the Libs, the Cons, the NDP or the Greens. Every MP should represent their wishes of the majority of their respective constituency.

[8x68S]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Just say thanks to all the gunies who voted Liberal last election....Ya didn't Like Harper thought you would try something different......Well here ya go 40 years of fighting the Liberal gun ban and you goofs...voted them in AGAIN...have fun, my fight is over yours is just beginning.

Some of us didn't vote Liberal. Any help for those of us that still give a chit would be useful.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by 8x68S

Some of us didn't vote Liberal. Any help for those of us that still give a chit would be useful.

After reading most of the responses in this post most people on this forum don't give a sh11......so carry on...I fought for 40 years..

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

After reading most of the responses in this post most people on this forum don't give a sh11......so carry on...I fought for 40 years..

They talk the talk, but they don't Walk the talk.

They're just bunch of posers

[markg]

When is this legislation going to be tabled? How long would it take to implement? How long to it take from when the gun registry was made law until it was implemented?

The reason I ask is that they may not be able to make any kinds of meaningful changes before there term is over and we can elect an alternative government.

There is a lot of Hersey about this upcoming legislation. I won't try and fight something that does not yet exist. However if the kind of changes are proposed that have been mentioned then I would say that it is the duty of every firearms owner to support all candidates across our nation that would oppose this. The hard part is trying to make a difference outside of our province. I am confident that most Albertans have seen the results of our current federal and provincial governments and will have the wisdom to go in a different direction. It's the rest of Canada where we will have to direct our time talents and treasure to making a difference for our beloved sport

[lmtada]

Trudeau angry at his MP for questioning him on gun regulation.

https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/12...rns-put/137000

[sjr]

And is there anyone out there that is surprised at our dear PM , not sure how you say dictator in Quebec but ....

[Newellknik]

Maudit Cochon !

[CBintheNorth]

In my opinion everyone needs to bottle their anger and save their frustration for the month before the next election.
The penguins have a majority and nothing we gun owners (minority) say to them will do anything.
Write everything stupid that they do or want to do down. When the time is right, remind everyone that will listen about every detail.
And come up with a snappy catch phrase like "Stop Harper", people seem to listen hopelessly to catch phrases.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

In my opinion everyone needs to bottle their anger and save their frustration for the month before the next election.
The penguins have a majority and nothing we gun owners (minority) say to them will do anything.
Write everything stupid that they do or want to do down. When the time is right, remind everyone that will listen about every detail.
And come up with a snappy catch phrase like "Stop Harper", people seem to listen hopelessly to catch phrases.

I like collecting photos of JT with dubious people. When election time rolls around, I start using them frequently, to make people think about what sort of person he is, and draw their own conclusions. Photos like this - with a 'You can tell a man's character by the company he keeps'

Screen Shot 2014-10-29 at 1.49.25 PM by Andrew Whittick, on Flickr

[Dewey Cox]

I’m starting to wonder if our efforts would be better spent on getting Alberta to separate from canada.

[HunterDave]

I’d love to read the entire article but I won’t subscribe to do it.

Here’s an article that I could access. Sorry, I can’t copy and paste the article at the moment.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/tr...l-legislation/

[New Hunter Okotoks]

"Now that's REAL change!"

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

I’m starting to wonder if our efforts would be better spent on getting Alberta to separate from canada.

It's coming. Just one more whack at the wedge. The writing is on the wall people.

[Dewey Cox]

RavYak:
If your husband asks you to compromise, that’s great, because you are both working towards the same cause and there’s give and take on both sides.
The government only wants to take away from us. How is agreeing to them only taking away a bit every few years a compromise? What are they giving in exchange?

[HunterDave]

Justin campaigned on introducing stricter gun legislation so it shouldn't come as a surprise that this is happening. I think that some of you are over reacting a bit. What he proposed was to reintroduce businesses maintaining a registry of the firearms sold, maybe a few other things similar to that. No where did he state that there would be a gun grab. I'll take a wait and see approach before jumping on the crazy train.

[raab]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

Justin campaigned on introducing stricter gun legislation so it shouldn't come as a surprise that this is happening. I think that some of you are over reacting a bit. What he proposed was to reintroduce businesses maintaining a registry of the firearms sold, maybe a few other things similar to that. No where did he state that there would be a gun grab. I'll take a wait and see approach before jumping on the crazy train.

Trudeau and the Liberals specifically stated they wouldn't bring back the gun registry, and would put the decision making of classification to the RCMP. No where did they say they'd take peoples guns or have stricter legislation. For the most part they were going to stay out of the gun debate which would be the smart thing to do. If they go through with this its just another black mark for the treasonous Trudeau, and shows how stupid he really is. He is without a doubt the WORST politician in the history of Canada.

[markg]

Originally Posted by raab

Trudeau and the Liberals specifically stated they wouldn't bring back the gun registry, and would put the decision making of classification to the RCMP. No where did they say they'd take peoples guns or have stricter legislation. For the most part they were going to stay out of the gun debate which would be the smart thing to do. If they go through with this its just another black mark for the treasonous Trudeau, and shows how stupid he really is. He is without a doubt the WORST politician in the history of Canada.

I am old enough to remember his fathers governments, at this point ill pretty much call it a draw.

[wwbirds]

You see on FB and someone click baits it so it appears as a real news story. Tried going into the Hilltimes link and the message was "subscribers only story".
I saw these panic headlines on FB yesterday several times and read the article it was linked to from start to end. Aside from the captioned headline there was very little content about the new gun legislation except the speculation that even the caucus thought it would be "surprizing" with out going into any details on what the surprizes would be. The major content of the article was concerning how backbenchers were discouraged from stating their opinion in caucus and how many were upset that several unelected representatives of the PMO were allowed to attend the caucus.
Seems like a hole lot of making a mountain out of a mole hill for the sake of blowing things out of proportion and selling more newspapers.