Pop Can Garbage Trucks

[nast70]

Why anyone would risk life and limb with a truck that has major suspension parts made from aluminum is beyond me. Too many people over load, over tow, over drive these trucks. It's kinda scary.
This 1/2 ton hit a curb at 5km/hr and snap.
My BIL is a tech and sent me this photo of a truck in his shop now...

[artie]

Originally Posted by nast70

Why anyone would risk life and limb with a truck that has major suspension parts made from aluminum is beyond me. Too many people over load, over tow, over drive these trucks. It's kinda scary.
This 1/2 ton hit a curb at 5km/hr and snap.
My BIL is a tech and sent me this photo of a truck in his shop now...

so what type of truck is this so I know what to look for if buying another truck

[nast70]

2016 Dodge 1/2 ton

[trouter]

Happened to me on my 2010 ram 1500. -38 out and I whipped the back around to face the other way on a back road in town. Tapped the curb and broke the axle and everything holding it together. Was not a hard hit, kids in the back didn't even notice it. The disappointment on my wife's face was worse than the tow and repair bill.

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by nast70

2016 Dodge 1/2 ton

Pretty much says it all.

[dale7637]

Go crawl under all manufacture's new iron. Its all aluminum control arms and components. Has been for a long time.

[Fish along]

Originally Posted by nast70

Why anyone would risk life and limb with a truck that has major suspension parts made from aluminum is beyond me. Too many people over load, over tow, over drive these trucks. It's kinda scary.
This 1/2 ton hit a curb at 5km/hr and snap.
My BIL is a tech and sent me this photo of a truck in his shop now...

Cast aluminum?is this what front end linkages are made of these days?

[fishtank]

Those aluminum parts will help with fuel economy , wait til they start to use plastic ... oh snap

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by fishtank

Those aluminum parts will help with fuel economy , wait til they start to use plastic ... oh snap

Better than alluminum. 'Plastic' has been used in Corvette suspension and Formula 1 for years. Now of course this isn't the same plastic that your household products are made of...but properly used it would be way better than aluminum. Guaranteed the reason they use aluminum is it's a lot cheaper.

[4K3OGH]

Is that not cast?

[ChickakooKookoo]

Aluminum is on average 3 to 4 times more expensive than steel.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by ChickakooKookoo

Aluminum is on average 3 to 4 times more expensive than steel.

It is used because it is much lighter than steel so more fuel efficient. Carbon reinforced plastic is a bit more expensive than the aluminum from what I've read.

[JB_AOL]

Solution:... Learn to drive and don't hit curbs..

FTR.. If that scares you, you should completely remove the interior of ANY vehicle, and see how little is protecting the passengers.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by fishtank

Those aluminum parts will help with fuel economy , wait til they start to use plastic ... oh snap

Or, is it magnesium ? Another thing, vehicle builders think in terms of California, metals lose a lot of strength, when it get's really cold.

Grizz

[Rastus]

It is "NOT" plastic, it is Carbon Fibre, maybe it is plastic in the newer cars.

[CNP]

Of course there is more steel in your truck than there is in an aircraft. The use of aluminum and composites is not something that anyone should arbitrarily think is a bad starting point. If you think so, stay on the ground.

Don't overload your truck and like someone else said...…..stay away from curbs.

Airliner composition by mass
Material B747 B767 B757 B777 B787 A300B4
Aluminium 81% 80% 78% 70% 20% 77%
Steel 13% 14% 12% 11% 10% 12%
Titanium 4% 2% 6% 7% 15% 4%
Composites 1% 3% 3% 11% 50% 4%
Other 1% 1% 1% 1% 5% 3%

[1899b]

Aluminum has been used in suspension parts for years in both cars and trucks.

[Okotok]

Originally Posted by Rastus

It is "NOT" plastic, it is Carbon Fibre, maybe it is plastic in the newer cars.

The parts are actually carbon fiber reinforced plastic. Just as FRP is fiberglass reinforced plastic. Makes for a strong composite.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by nast70

....at 5km/hr and snap.

Reminds me of the news article I heard that suggested most people who say they are working 70 to 100 hrs a week are actually only working 60.

[Smokinyotes]

I have never really understood why anyone would buy a Dodge. I guess because they are cheaper.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

So a 3 year old truck.
Probably having the rag being driven off of it by some young guy.
Probably being beat to heck and back, off- roading and who knows what else.
Probably has been taking a beating for months.

But the complaint is 'snapped hitting a curb at 5km/h'


Perhaps more to the story than is being told.

Some embellishment and lack of details from the pickup owner maybe?

3 years hitting the same spot over an over again until finally a seemingly easy hit causes it to break.

Point is, anything put through enough stress at the hands of an idiot, will break regardless of the materials used.

Or is it just easier to blame the manufacturer?

[colroggal]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

I have never really understood why anyone would buy a Dodge. I guess because they are cheaper.

I've had mine since new. Only ever had to worry about fluids. Stock tires were horrible, but they all are. Still on the original break linings at 88k.

I'm sure just like with anything there are good and bad examples.

Colin

[Husty]

Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK

So a 3 year old truck.
Probably having the rag being driven off of it by some young guy.
Probably being beat to heck and back, off- roading and who knows what else.
Probably has been taking a beating for months.

But the complaint is 'snapped hitting a curb at 5km/h'


Perhaps more to the story than is being told.

Some embellishment and lack of details from the pickup owner maybe?

3 years hitting the same spot over an over again until finally a seemingly easy hit causes it to break.

Point is, anything put through enough stress at the hands of an idiot, will break regardless of the materials used.

Or is it just easier to blame the manufacturer?

Well it is a 1/2 ton dodge. You get what you pay for.. Brand bashing aside could happen to any truck, it always seems like dodges front ends are their weak point.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Originally Posted by Husty

Well it is a 1/2 ton dodge. You get what you pay for.. Brand bashing aside could happen to any truck, it always seems like dodges front ends are their weak point.

True enough.

[cranky]

For all you Dodge haters.
I see GM uses aluminum upper control arms on its front suspension on Silverado's pickups. Id post the web site but its easy to find and im not exactly real computer literate.
Just sayin.

[nast70]

It's not brand bashing, but more about using it for what is meant for and not exceeding limits. All half tons have similar points of weakness, all geared to making the ride better, light weight for better fuel economy, basically glorified grocery getters.
Maybe it was abused, maybe it was a flaw right from the parts manufacture, maybe there's more to the storied 5km/hr speed. But the fact is its a half ton, and like many of you, I have seen 1/2 tons over limit on the highways with campers and families in them. This is a major part of the front end of the truck. If that part went while loaded on the highway, the end result could be, well use your own imagination.
If this makes one person change their mind about towing with a half ton and move into a HD or SD truck, I'm happy.

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Originally Posted by nast70

It's not brand bashing, but more about using it for what is meant for and not exceeding limits. All half tons have similar points of weakness, all geared to making the ride better, light weight for better fuel economy, basically glorified grocery getters.
Maybe it was abused, maybe it was a flaw right from the parts manufacture, maybe there's more to the storied 5km/hr speed. But the fact is its a half ton, and like many of you, I have seen 1/2 tons over limit on the highways with campers and families in them. This is a major part of the front end of the truck. If that part went while loaded on the highway, the end result could be, well use your own imagination.
If this makes one person change their mind about towing with a half ton and move into a HD or SD truck, I'm happy.

And that time of year again will be upon us soon enough.

[barbless]

Well as they say what DODGE stands for "Don't Over Drive Gutless Equipment"