Rings vs Rail and rings

[jayquiver]

Never used a picatinny rail before but my Defiance Machine action came with a 20 MOA aluminum rail. I could remove it and use Talleys or Hawkins Rings (Long Range Hybrid Rings with 25 moa)

What the pros and cons of a rail? It will be on a hunting rifle with a floor plate.

If you think I should keep the rail what rings would you recommend for them?

[elkhunter11]

A rail usually offers more adjustment range for the placement of the rings. They also usually provide a very true ring alignment. On the negative, they are heavier, and they sometimes limit how low the scope can be mounted. The rail can also limit access to the ejection port, to load rounds from the top.

[renegadeg2]

I like rails because I get lots of room to move the rings and scope back and get comfy eye relief. Works nicely for the way I mount my ridles to my shoulder and cheek.

With rails, you often need low rings.

Soo many manufacturers make them. Leupold, vortex, nightforce, Weaver, etc...

I noticed that some folks like the quick disconnect option for their rings.

-Reza

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

A rail usually offers more adjustment range for the placement of the rings. They also usually provide a very true ring alignment. On the negative, they are heavier, and they sometimes limit how low the scope can be mounted. The rail can also limit access to the ejection port, to load rounds from the top.

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[jayquiver]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

A rail usually offers more adjustment range for the placement of the rings. They also usually provide a very true ring alignment. On the negative, they are heavier, and they sometimes limit how low the scope can be mounted. The rail can also limit access to the ejection port, to load rounds from the top.

I am concerned about accessing the ejection port, as I will be top loading, especially with my fat thumbs. lol.

[Smokinyotes]

I have a defiance deviant action with a 25 moa integrated rail. I have no issues accessing the port. I would phone Near Manufacturing and tell them what you plan on using for a scope and how high you want your objective lens off the barrel and they will probably build it.

[BigJon]

1 piece rails on BDL/ADL rigs aren’t my favourite b/c I too have big hands and don’t like the limited access to the loading/ejection port. As such I use two piece picatinny or weaver style bases. I prefer these to talleys, dovetails, etc. b/c I feel it’s a stronger mount and I can have a back-up scope in rings, ready to go or easily remove the scope for whatever reason and it will return pretty close to zero once remounted.

[Jerry D]

Rail offer more flexibility with position but will be heavier.

Generally straight rings can be mounted lower.

Looks at the arc m10 rings if you go with a rail.

You can also get a split rail where it doesn’t go over the ejection port.

Personally if the rail isn’t integrally machined into the action I would go with the Hawkins rings.

The rail was designed as a universal rail so that the optics and rings can be removed and reattached from one platform to another. You can also put other stuff on the rail such as a bubble level or dope cards etc.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

A rail usually offers more adjustment range for the placement of the rings. They also usually provide a very true ring alignment. On the negative, they are heavier, and they sometimes limit how low the scope can be mounted. The rail can also limit access to the ejection port, to load rounds from the top.

This is it in a nutshell.

[fps plus]

With good quality equipment you can’t go too far wrong either way .

[sns2]

Jay, forget the rail. Talleys simply work well. Don’t fix what ain’t broken, and you don’t need 25 moa rings on a hunting rifle. Unless youz puttin one dem fancy blue huskeemows on dat perty gun.